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Schindlers' Options Dwindle to Hearing Tonight with Federal Judge (Motion DENIED)
AP ^ | March 24, 2005

Posted on 03/24/2005 4:45:17 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

A federal court hearing has started in one of the last effort attempts by Terri Schiavo's parents to restore their daughter's feeding tube.

But the judge already has turned down the parents once. Bob and Mary Schindler are asking for an emergency order to reinsert the feeding tube in the brain-damaged woman.

The hearing in Tampa is before U.S. District Judge James Whittemore. He turned the Schindlers down once, as did a federal appeals court and the Supreme Court. A state judge, a state appeals court and the Florida Supreme Court also have all come down on the side of the husband, who wants to let his wife die after 15 years in what some doctors call a vegetative state.

The latest defeat for the Schindlers was today when a state judge said he won't go along with Governor Jeb Bush's request to order the feeding tube reinserted. The governor had said that new allegations of abuse of Terri Schiavo need to be investigated. The governor also tried to challenged the diagnosis that Terri Schiavo is in a persistent vegetative state.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: florida; righttolife; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo; whittemore
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To: churchillbuff

You truly believe that to stand up against Hussein was a cake walk for GWB. Man, that is some revisionist history there.

It takes courage to resist the calls coming out for a constitutional crises.


301 posted on 03/24/2005 6:22:07 PM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: Spunky
If Terri doesn't feel pain why did they give her pain medication for her menstrual cramps?! Why are they giving her morphine now? If it's like Michael and Felos are claiming "peaceful with no pain" they shouldn't be giving her anything. Why do they feel the need to lie if Terri isn't suffering? What else have they been lying about?!
302 posted on 03/24/2005 6:22:19 PM PST by kcvl
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To: churchillbuff
But apparently we're not going to fight for the right of disabled Americans not to have their feeding tubes withdrawn.

Wow -have you suddenly been transformed into an optimistic positivist on an issue? Having read a plethora of your prior negative articles and postings over time this is surprising to see!

Oh wait a minute -it appears you are just feigning support for an issue to disparage an other.

Never mind...

303 posted on 03/24/2005 6:22:58 PM PST by DBeers
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To: West Coast Conservative

States rights.

Separation of power among the three branches.

The "Keep the tube in Terri" proponents do not want to hear this, but these are principles our nation was founded on.

Yes, states rights evaporated years ago, as did the separation of powers (with the activist judges writing law and bypassing the legislative branch).

However, it look like there is still some rigor mortis in the dead body of the U.S. Constitution. Congress should keep out of this and let Florida practice its states rights.


304 posted on 03/24/2005 6:23:08 PM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (John Kerry--three fake Purple Hearts. George Bush--one real heart of gold.)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

Someone tell me how Judge Greer was reelected down there! Every piece of evidence I see points to something going on between him and Felos for him to rule the the way he has and to always listen to the scumbag husband.

Why didn't lawyers petition on behalf of Terri to have the guardianship put in a trust situation instead of petition for her family? Would the Federal Courts have looked at it differently and gotten away from the family fued going on while Terri could not say or do anything?

The rights who have been trampled here are those of Terri's and she should have been afforded her own legal team and her own guardian and every last bit of money should have gone in a trust fund for her expenses not to be doled out to pay the scumbag's lawyer. IMHO, any settlement that includes care for someone disabled should be controlled by a trust not a member of the family to preclude this from happening.


305 posted on 03/24/2005 6:23:10 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Increase Republicans in Congress in 2006!)
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To: churchillbuff
The Schindlers are not sophisticated people. So they've allowed themselves to get hooked up with Randall Terry - when that was a sure way to turn off the media and forestall efforts to court reporters and editors. They should have linked up with a more politicially correct crowd - the disability-rights movement.

Boy, you got that right. And while I have heard a mention here and there about the disability-rights folks, as a WHOLE, they've been strangely silent. Perhaps it's because their "people" are part of the problem this time?

(And just so I'm not understood....I FULLY SUPPORT helping disabled people!!!!!)

306 posted on 03/24/2005 6:23:11 PM PST by razorbackmama
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To: sinkspur; VinceJS; PhiKapMom; Howlin; Peach; Neets; BigSkyFreeper; zarf; .38sw; the Deejay; ...

Vince is probably in his basement typing away, secretly wishing he could be sitting in the Hospice parking lot watching Sean Hannity and his tryout for the next "Geraldo Rivera" spot on FOX.


307 posted on 03/24/2005 6:23:17 PM PST by Neets
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To: tutstar

I heard him on the radio earlier talking about how Terri was in the "dying process". There was joy in his voice as he spoke. It was sick, sick, sick.


308 posted on 03/24/2005 6:23:58 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: k2blader

MS should have had 60 Minutes create that for him. "Living Will" in hand it would have been over already.
A Living Will starved and dehydrated to my stepfather in a FL hospice last Aug. Even though my mother told them he did NOT know extraordinary measures meant no food or water and would never have signed if he had been told that. Both my folks had a LW and thought it meant DNR. My mother has pulled hers.
I understand from reading on FR that my family have MS to thank for that. He had the law changed to facilitate killing Terri and offed my stepfather too. Wonder how many others?


309 posted on 03/24/2005 6:24:11 PM PST by kalee
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To: kcvl

She IS indeed feeling pain, and my heart aches for her and her family, especially her Mom.


310 posted on 03/24/2005 6:24:31 PM PST by LisaMalia (Today is the first day...of the rest of our lives, hopefully Terri's as well.....)
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To: browardchad

My wife worked at a hospice that "had" a Florida facility. All hospices in Florida must be non-profit. A company petitions the state and if the services are needed in the community they get approval. Then a management company charges a management fee to provide staff, supplies etc. The same thing happens with credit counseling companies. They are "non-profits" with management companies that rake in huge fees. The fact he was chairman suggests he might have ownership interest in a management company.


311 posted on 03/24/2005 6:24:42 PM PST by tort_feasor (FreeRepublic.com - Tommorrow's News, Today)
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To: NCC-1701

Yup.

I said, "Poop."

But I think that one most likely comes closer.

At least in the unsaid/but thought category.

Sigh.


312 posted on 03/24/2005 6:24:43 PM PST by freecopper01
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To: freecopper01
said Terri just needed to die.

I ran across one of those yesterday. He's a democrat, and that conversation then degenerated into one where he said if tax dollars were spent on keeping her alive the he felt he should have some say in saying "no more". I said well then just empty out the nursing home but at least be honest enough to say that state sanctioned euthanasia was his goal, and if we were going to do that then we should at least be humane enough to euthanize with a lethal injection. He shut up for a few minutes.

I work in a medical facility, and today I ran across someone who said she was brain dead. I said you know better than that. Brain dead is not spontaneously breathing and needing drugs to regulate blood flow and heart function. Oh yeah, they say, I guess she isn't brain dead.

Well, so she's in a PVS they say...well lets talk about that. According to a medical paper that's a diagnosis where there is little agreement and is mistakenly given even across experts. They quiet down too.

It does amaze me the number of people who think she "should" die.

313 posted on 03/24/2005 6:25:45 PM PST by not_apathetic_anymore
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To: proud American in Canada
All the stress and emotion has combined to make people go out of their minds with grief (and they aren't even family members), may I respectfully request that we not laugh or mock people who are upset. Or make lists.

These "upset people" are turning FR into a laughingstock with their red-faced rants. Not only do some of them make no sense, but they advocate hostility and ridicule the President and his brother.

Tell you what. I won't say a word. I'll just post their own words in a separate post, in bold. Lurkers can draw their own conclusions.

314 posted on 03/24/2005 6:26:47 PM PST by sinkspur ("Preach the gospel. If necessary, use words.")
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To: sinkspur

Is this as in "Night of the Long Knives?"

I still believe we're not watching the history channel or we'd know how this thing will end if...

A bunch of ifs..

If judges trump all.
If the mentally handicapped have no constitutional rights.
If no ones looking


315 posted on 03/24/2005 6:27:03 PM PST by freecopper01
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To: Republican Wildcat
I heard him on the radio earlier talking about how Terri was in the "dying process".

And did you hear how she was being attended to so compassionately by people who are making sure her physical needs are met?????

Hello, you mean like FOOD AND WATER???????

sigh

316 posted on 03/24/2005 6:27:27 PM PST by razorbackmama
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To: DevSix
Gov Jeb Bush is doing and has done as much as he can -

That's crap. What can they do to him? Find him in contempt of court? So what? The guy's a wimp.

317 posted on 03/24/2005 6:27:41 PM PST by raybbr
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To: razorbackmama

Don't forget Larry Klayman was with Terry in Gov Bush's office yesterday afternoon and we all know how successful Klayman has been. NOT!


318 posted on 03/24/2005 6:28:58 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Increase Republicans in Congress in 2006!)
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To: Rodentking

They can remove them by voting them out if elected, impeachment if appointed, and by eliminating or drastically reducing their funding. That is the way it has to be approached.


319 posted on 03/24/2005 6:29:00 PM PST by Edmund Burke
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To: All

I am listening to PBS and they are discussing that in December there was only about 10 bloggers a day discussing the Schiavo Case but now there are over 4000 a day. (They still don't know what a blogger is) They said that 76% polled are following this closely or very closely. They said this has gotten more attention then ANYOTHER NEWS other then when we went into Iraq. It is about on par with Elian Gonzalez case if not even more.


320 posted on 03/24/2005 6:29:01 PM PST by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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