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Schiavo Appeal Has Been Filed
Fox News

Posted on 03/22/2005 6:13:43 AM PST by sonsofliberty2000

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: clausvonschiavo; deathocrats; dothewillofgod; euthanasia; godhelpus; goodforgopin06; governmentinstrusion; judicaltyranny; judicialcoup; medicalmurder; meninblack; parentsrights; politcalgain; schiavo; t4; terri; terrischiavo
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To: northernlightsII

Her wheelchair broke in 99 and he refused to replace it.

A woman being wheeled around may look a little too healthy, there could be witnesses. Now if she's confined to her bed, with the shades drawn at all times, no one except some doctors and nurses afraid of being sued will know that Terri is not PVS. Only the HINO had complete access to Terri. There were times that Terri's parents were forbidden by him to visit her room, yet the HINO's girlfriend got in!


1,241 posted on 03/22/2005 12:37:50 PM PST by Boardwalk
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To: Military family member
That is exactly my point, and I'm not in Pennsylvania

I think you are missing my point.

You were writing as if the church is the only institution interested in whether a spouse committed adultery.

Historically speaking, people were granted civil divorces on the grounds of adultery, and in some states (not Florida*) they can still get a divorce on the grounds of adultery.

Is a no fault divorce the only option even when there has been substantial wrongdoing?

In 15 states, yes. The other states allow a spouse to select either a no fault divorce or a fault divorce. Why choose a fault divorce? Some people don't want to wait out the period of separation required by their state's law for a no fault divorce. And in some states, a spouse who proves the other's fault may receive a greater share of the marital property or more alimony.

The traditional fault grounds are:


*Florida does not grant divorces on the grounds of adultery. As for alimony in Florida divorce cases --"The bottom line is that the amount of alimony awarded a spouse [who was cheated on] is only increased if the adulterous conduct increases the spouse's monetary needs."

1,242 posted on 03/22/2005 12:37:57 PM PST by syriacus (Why is Michael Schiavo trying to "end the misery" of a woman he says can't think or feel?)
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To: QQQQQ

Where is Section 2? What does it say?


1,243 posted on 03/22/2005 12:38:20 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: atruelady
Then he truly did fail because he is being paid to think about it. Isn't that what de novo means? I mean this as a question, either to you or to the legal experts out there.
1,244 posted on 03/22/2005 12:39:31 PM PST by Military family member (If pro is the opposite of con and con the opposite of pro, then the opposite of Progress is Congress)
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To: snugs

You are right -- she's the ward of her husband.


1,245 posted on 03/22/2005 12:40:30 PM PST by expatpat
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To: MineralMan

Michael has not allowed Terri to leave her room for years.


1,246 posted on 03/22/2005 12:41:42 PM PST by Jrabbit
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To: adiaireton8

I would think this is easier said than done.


1,247 posted on 03/22/2005 12:41:52 PM PST by verity (The Liberal Media and the ACLU are America's Enemies)
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To: expatpat

"You are right -- she's the ward of her husband."

My error. I was going by the fact that the judge is the GAL. When I saw the reference to "the ward," I erroneously though it referred to her being a ward of the court.


1,248 posted on 03/22/2005 12:42:26 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MineralMan

It's also quite detailed. As a writer and a former college English teacher, I know how hard it can be to produce that much documented text that quickly.


1,249 posted on 03/22/2005 12:42:32 PM PST by Military family member (If pro is the opposite of con and con the opposite of pro, then the opposite of Progress is Congress)
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To: winstonchurchill
Again,all we have is that sadist judge word about the facts. Since you don't have the transcripts you can't make your own evaluation of the facts or the reasonableness of the interpretation of same by the judge. All you have displayed on these threads the last few days is a blind and unconditional acceptance of the findings by Greer at all costs which suggests either gullibility or a vested interest in this case.
1,250 posted on 03/22/2005 12:43:21 PM PST by northernlightsII
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To: shekkian

Florida is quickly going down. I live here. Weak leadership perhaps?


1,251 posted on 03/22/2005 12:43:31 PM PST by tatsmom
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To: Jrabbit

"Michael has not allowed Terri to leave her room for years."

If she had been a witness on her own behalf, that would simply not apply. Her parents' attorney could have requested her as a witness and that would have been granted. Bottom line is that she was incapable of testifying in court.


1,252 posted on 03/22/2005 12:43:46 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MineralMan
If enough people disagree with these laws, then they should devote their efforts to changing them. But...as long as laws permitting such removal from life support (which includes feeding and hydration in Florida) then the question becomes one of law.

Duh.

Well, we (the Congress, the legislature in FL< etc.) CHANGED the law - at the state level, and at the federal level.

And Judge Greer, in his blind hatred of Terri, threw those laws out. He refused to admit contrary testimony - based on nothing more than the fact that he didn't want to hear it.

And the democrats, in their hatred of pro-life Christians, are championing her death.

1,253 posted on 03/22/2005 12:44:02 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Military family member

Ues it does mean new...but due to the fact that this kind of thing takes time, Gibbs was asking for the new trial AND an injunction/restraining order against Felos, Greer, and HINO.

So, the judge erred in ruling that because of the lower courts rulings (if you want to call it that) in the past, the success of a new lawsuit would not be won by the Schindlers.

THIS IS CONTRARY TO THE NEW LAW SIGNED ON MONDAY BY PRESIDENT BUSH THAT AMONG OTHER THINGS STATES THAT THE FEDERAL JUDGE IS NOT TO CONSIDER OLD LOWER COURT RULINGS.

THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE A FRESH START.

I think Gibbs was cut off at the pass by GREER WHO WAS PRESENT AT THE FEDERAL COURT. I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF A LOWER COURT JUDGE RUNNING TO THE FEDERAL COURT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I SAID ON CSPAM (I GOT THROUGH) AS WELL AS WHITTEMORE'S ANSWERING MACHING THAT I WANTED TO KNOW H0W MUCH TIME HE SPENT TALKING TO GREER BEFORE HE DECIDED.

WHITTEMORE IGNORED THE NEW LAW.


1,254 posted on 03/22/2005 12:44:06 PM PST by atruelady (Life Support...the OTHER , other white meat.)
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To: syriacus

Thanks. Wasn't trying to be flip, just trying to understand.


1,255 posted on 03/22/2005 12:45:08 PM PST by Military family member (If pro is the opposite of con and con the opposite of pro, then the opposite of Progress is Congress)
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To: tatsmom

Yes. I live here too. Not for long...Colorado bound when the kids' school ends SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF THIS DISGUTING ISSUE.


1,256 posted on 03/22/2005 12:45:15 PM PST by atruelady (Life Support...the OTHER , other white meat.)
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To: Boardwalk

No, Greer never visited Terri. And since he had appointed himself as Terri's representative/caretaker at the beginning of this case, it is absolutely unbelievable that he never even visited her.

Also, there was a legal expert on Fox last night who said that by Greer appointing himself as Terri's caretaker while acting as judge in this case, he violated Florida law. Evidently, Whittemore did not see anything wrong with this. Unbelievable.


1,257 posted on 03/22/2005 12:45:47 PM PST by Texas Deb
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To: verity
Virtue is hard; vice is easy.

-A8

1,258 posted on 03/22/2005 12:46:06 PM PST by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: MineralMan

LOL

How naive are you? A congressional subpoena was spat on by the judge and Felos. Why in the world do you think they would honor one from the enemy parents?

ROFL


1,259 posted on 03/22/2005 12:46:17 PM PST by Jrabbit
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To: atruelady

"WHITTEMORE IGNORED THE NEW LAW"

Lotta 'judges' doing that these days.

But thats okay, because judges are infallible once thay put their black robes on./ sarcasm


1,260 posted on 03/22/2005 12:46:22 PM PST by ex 98C MI Dude (Proud Member of the Reagan Republicans)
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