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Schiavo Appeal Has Been Filed
Fox News

Posted on 03/22/2005 6:13:43 AM PST by sonsofliberty2000

per Fox


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: clausvonschiavo; deathocrats; dothewillofgod; euthanasia; godhelpus; goodforgopin06; governmentinstrusion; judicaltyranny; judicialcoup; medicalmurder; meninblack; parentsrights; politcalgain; schiavo; t4; terri; terrischiavo
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To: ContraryMary

Yes, and even though I don't agree with the whole euthanasia thing, you cannot discount someone's written wish.


1,041 posted on 03/22/2005 11:14:47 AM PST by atruelady (Life Support...the OTHER , other white meat.)
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To: ContemptofCourt
No, that is testimony....just like the testimony of the other two witnesses

Just out of curiouslity, since you are a trial lawyer. For a moment, put yourself on the side of representing the parents in this particular proceeding. Would you have argued, on behalf of the Shindlers, that the three witnesses giving this tesitimony regarding having such close ties to one another, (i.e. husband, husband's brother and sister-in-law) should be given less weight than if the three witnesses were independent of one another? Clearly (at least to me) the brother and sister-in-law have an interest in helping their brother achieve his goal in this so that he can "get on with his life", so to speak.

1,042 posted on 03/22/2005 11:15:14 AM PST by Green
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To: bigeasy_70118
The House should have enforced the subpoenas so that they could have had Witnesses appear for the debate before they voted on the law. Then let the congressmen make their speeches with all the parties involved sitting there for them to watch.
1,043 posted on 03/22/2005 11:15:56 AM PST by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: Esteemed Scholar Jack Bauer

Then go away or find another "mentally sanitized thread".

No one is holding your down starving you and locking you in one room for years with nothing but a computer.


1,044 posted on 03/22/2005 11:16:37 AM PST by atruelady (Life Support...the OTHER , other white meat.)
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To: Green

Of course...that is called bias, and goes to the credibility of the witnesses. However, the law put the decision in the hands of the trial judge, and he found them to be credible.


1,045 posted on 03/22/2005 11:17:04 AM PST by ContemptofCourt
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To: atruelady

True, but i think life support terminology needs to change. Life support is for breathing, not for eating. If we can breath on our own than we should be allowed to eat. If I was in a PVS and could breath, I better get fed! If I can't breath than let me go! We have gone overboard when deciding to stop feeding someone that can breath!


1,046 posted on 03/22/2005 11:17:18 AM PST by Halls
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To: ContemptofCourt

Nor is hearsay.
Also the court seems to fail to address the obvious conflict of interest position of the one uttering the said hearsay evidence.
And you also seem very happy to ignore that fact.
In matters much less serious then life or death decision where one stands to gain financially,people have to recuse themselves from participating in decision making on boards everywhere.
I seem to recall a hell of a fuss being made over Cheney's past relation to Halliburton, and Iraq contracys, soldiers dying for oil and blah blah blah.


1,047 posted on 03/22/2005 11:17:39 AM PST by northernlightsII
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To: floridarolf

doesn't have to be...nazi by association. Not all nazi's are German.


1,048 posted on 03/22/2005 11:17:47 AM PST by atruelady (Life Support...the OTHER , other white meat.)
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To: Esteemed Scholar Jack Bauer

Excuse me, but if you don't want to hear it than why are you on FR and responding to it? Go away!


1,049 posted on 03/22/2005 11:17:55 AM PST by Halls
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To: Jrabbit
You've been a great cheerleader for Michael. Hopefully, he'll invite you to the victory party.

Yet, another well reasoned argument. I'll attempt to respond to your blistering logic anyway.

You have entirely misunderstood my statements. It's the sanctity of marriage that concerns me. Not what kind of jerk she married.

1,050 posted on 03/22/2005 11:18:11 AM PST by Jotmo ("Voon", said the mattress.)
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To: winstonchurchill
The Schindler's statements, their doctors statements, Terri's friend's statements are ruled NOT CREDIBLE. Terri speaking for herself, which she does BTW, is ruled NOT CREDIBLE, except for the part 15 years ago when Michael says she said she wanted to die. THEN THE JUDGE FINDS HER CREDIBLE.

All the doctors that FELOS hired and GREER appointed were found CREDIBLE.

WHY? Because Judge Greer had already made up his mind Terri should DIE before he ever heard any of the evidence on the case. And I can prove it.

1,051 posted on 03/22/2005 11:18:12 AM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: Jotmo

Are you a parent?


1,052 posted on 03/22/2005 11:19:23 AM PST by Ga.Lady
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To: areafiftyone

No poll is fair unless you are limited to only one man one vote.


1,053 posted on 03/22/2005 11:19:49 AM PST by conservative blonde (Conservative Blonde)
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To: Jotmo

I think the concern is that since it's his word against hers, and without documentation, to err on the side of death puts every man and woman sitting in a nursing home at risk that a less than scrupulous loved one paying for said care will come forward and say:

"Yeah - uh - Aunt Gertie - she told me back in 1993 there that she didn't want no part of dis here nursing home and lying in a bed all day, so - uh - go ahead and stop feedin' the money syphon - I mean, my LOVELY aunt."


1,054 posted on 03/22/2005 11:20:05 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Warning: may eat own)
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To: Halls

Yes, this is why I figured that DNR orders would include no food, sad as it is.


1,055 posted on 03/22/2005 11:20:19 AM PST by atruelady (Life Support...the OTHER , other white meat.)
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To: UCANSEE2

I second that!


1,056 posted on 03/22/2005 11:20:28 AM PST by Boardwalk
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To: northernlightsII

Excuse me if I'm wrong, but like it or not, Michael is the husband, and there is a legal precedence as to the utterance between a huband and wife. He may have broken his vows according to the church but that is a matter for the church.


1,057 posted on 03/22/2005 11:20:39 AM PST by Military family member (If pro is the opposite of con and con the opposite of pro, then the opposite of Progress is Congress)
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To: Cboldt

"One of the first lessons in law shool is to seek the "unstated rationale." The system is manipulable and manipulated by powerful players."

Look, I suppose there is an "unstated rationale" in just about any facet of the law. From a strict constructionist perspective, however, there is little reason to look for a so-called "unseen hand" in the legal realm. Text is everything.

If the members of Congress had written this bill with sharper pencils, there would be a different outcome. The bottom line is that the legislation was a compromise. There were not enough votes to pass a bill...that actually had teeth.


1,058 posted on 03/22/2005 11:21:13 AM PST by rowhey (Don't be surprised)
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To: offduty

I read that Michael claims they were watching TV or a movie dealing with such issues, and Terri said something like "I wouldn't want to live like that!" (As most of us probably have!). I've read nothing to indicate that even he claims they had a detailed discussion about precisely what conditions would provide the trigger.


1,059 posted on 03/22/2005 11:21:17 AM PST by maryz
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To: SheLion
Thanks D, we have had it and the roll call up since sunday night.

I and Pastor jsut met with a guy who pastor went through basic with 43 years ago, he retired from the Corp after more than 30 years with stars on his shoulders. He said to Pastor:

"Bob, did you ever think we were fighting so that judges could use hearsay evidence to kill a woman?"

Eventually we are going to publish a whole lot of things from these meettings.

Thanks for the ping,
Jake

1,060 posted on 03/22/2005 11:21:40 AM PST by newsgatherer
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