"When Is That Bitch Gonna Die?" - Micheal Schiavo

BlueStarBase.org ^ | 3-21-2005 | Barbara Stanley

[Pendragon_6]

Lets see, first Michael Schiavo beats and strangles his wife Terri, leaves her lying unconscious on the floor until her family arrives to get her to the hospital.

Then Michael Schiavo sues the hospital for $20 million because he needs the money to get his poor wife therapy.

Then Michael Schiavo pockets the money, denies his wife the care he said she needed and finally, claims she really wants to die.

Michael Schiavo killed his wife Terri's cat, melted down her wedding ring and then took up with his girlfriend and lives with her today with their children. Does this sound like a loving husband who really cares about his wife's wishes?

And what do we get on the tube every hour on the hour: “persistent vegetative state” as though any of the talking heads who ghoulishly proclaim Terri's life isn't worth that of a convicted serial killer sitting on death row (for 20 years, while due process goes on).

Michael Schiavo's supporters claim he loved his wife Terri enough to take a nursing degree so that he could take care of her. I think he got that nursing degree so he could inject her with insulin and hasten her death and his complete claim to all the money he won in litigation.

Just take a gander at the sworn testimony of an attending nurse: Carla Sauer Iyer (affidavit* below) but let me save you some time and report a quote of Michael Schiavo's after visiting his still living wife: "When is that bitch gonna die?"

Hmmm. Loving husband or man so afraid of not only not getting the money (what's left of the $20 million) but the prospect of facing a jury for his attempted murder, a charge which is possible as long as Terri lives. Sounds like motive to me.

Michael Schiavo says Terri said she never wanted to be kept alive on machines. Okay. Even if that was her statement (which there is absolutely no corroborating testimony and quite the unusual statement coming from a young, newly married woman still in her twenties and full of life); Terri is not being kept alive by machines!

Terri has a feeding tube from which she gets food and water. Had she had the care and therapy she was entitled to, there is every chance today Terri would be divorced from that louse and feeding herself just fine.

About that “loving husband” crapola: what husband do you know evinces his marital fidelity and love by living with another woman, having children with that woman and dumps his wife in a hospice while waiting for her to die? What loving husband kills his sick wife's pet? What loving husband denies his wife's family visitation?

I ask these questions because the media morons are still stuck with their new term: “persistent vegetative state” and are oblivious to the actual facts of this tragic case.

Continued

[SURI]

Tha't it. I'm done.

The big lesson in all this to me is "whatever else, don't get sick and let the "medical/legal establishment" get to play you!

Stay well, live well, and avoid trouble.

And, pray a lot.

Goodbye thread. I can't stand the discussion any longer.

[expatpat]

It's not very transparent. MS has apparently not spent much of the money on therapy and care -- I believe that the hospice is not charging the taxpayers for her care. There is a Fed fraud investigation underway re that hospice. Some believe the money has been spent on legal fees, but I suspect Felos and the Euthanasia advocates are happy to be doing it for free.

[Chena]

"CHECK OUT MOVIE AND BOOK RIGHTS HE AND HIS LAWYER HAVE CUT...THERE'S YOUR ANSWER."

With all of the publicity this case has gotten through the years, and more than ever now, I have to wonder if it is necessary for Terri to die before MS could make any money on a book or movie deal. Seems to me they have enough for a book and/or movie right now. Then they could even make more money with a sequel once Terri dies naturally.

[expatpat]

Sorry - should be "IS charging the taxpayers".

[maryz]

If MS had disclosed his wife's wishes to die before he got a large settlement to prvide for therapy etc.

Indeed. But how big do you think the settlement would have been if he had? Generally, the biggest factor in these cases in determining the amount of settlement or jury award is the cost of lifetime care.

[Coop]

Look at Peterson getting the death penalty for a conviction with ZERO proof that he killed Laci.

Zero proof? Please.

[Beeline40@aol.com]

You were doing great until you called me a knuckle dragger. I will no longer respond to your name calling and one more thing, you lose all credibility when you resort to stuff like this.

[ex 98C MI Dude]

Mr. Schiavo can move on with his life if he so desires, without ending Terri's life. If indeed, he has 'moved on', then why the insistence she die, and not transfer guardianship to her parents?

I can understand your DNR decision in regards to your late wife. She was afflicted with a terminal cancer with no hope of survival, let alone recovery. Mrs. Schiavo suffers from no such terminal affliction. She is not going to get any worse from her injuries suffered from the original incident. Some doctors have maintained that she can show some definitive improvement with proper therapies. All she requires is the sustenance that we all require for sustained life.

[Coop]

She is HIS WIFE and therefore, under law, is NOT under the parent's care. the LAW OF THE LAND determines that Michael is her NOK. Get over it.

Fine. As long as you're ready to charge Mr. Schiavo with adultery. That's the law of the land. Deal with it.

[Beeline40@aol.com]

If I ended up in a wheelchair, with my wits about me, I think I can live with that. If I was like Ms. Schivo, I would want to be let go. Yes, I have made my wishes very clear with my family in black and white.

[Coop]

I'm certainly not on his side in this but accusations of attempted murder shouldn't be thrown around without any proof.

I'm in complete agreement.

[L.N. Smithee]

I don’t think I could’ve lasted that long with the constant pain of seeing my wife in such a condition. At least he had the sense to move on, find another and raise a family while her parents still cling to a miracle of recovery.

That's a very convenient, yet inaccurate, recitation of the facts. Schiavo did not "move on" -- he started another family while simultaneously refusing to divorce Terri.

Seeing how important God's opinion is to you, please tell me: would you have begun an sexual relationship with another while your wife (whom you refused to divorce) was still in that condition? Do you think that being in such a difficult circumstance entitles one to make their own rules about what is adultery and what is not?

[atlaw]

First, only two or three judges have been involved from the get-go. Greer himself has had this case for at least 10 years. So, there aren't that many judges agreeing with Mr. Schiavo.

Well, in addition to Judge Greer, the following courts have agreed with the nefarious Mr. Schiavo:

Judge Baird of Florida’s Sixth Judicial Circuit Court;

Florida Court of Appeals Judge Altenbernd (with no less than five opinions stemming from appeals of decisions by Judges Baird and Greer);

the Florida Supreme Court (also with no less than five reviews of the case stemming from state and federal legislative action as well as reviews of Florida appellate court decisions);

Judge Moody of the United States District Court for the Middle District of Florida; and

the United States Supreme Court (refusing on two occasions to intervene, and necessarily reviewing the state court decisions and the briefing of the parties in connection with this refusal).

Ok, the Fifth Circuit hasn't weighed in yet, but that's still a pretty exhaustive review process.

[expatpat]

No question that he claimed the money for lifetime care -- but he can't insist that his belated hearsay evidence is still as valid as if he had 'recalled' it at the outset.

[jb6]

You've got to be kidding, he hasn't killed her yet but he's got book/movie rights? We are a sick society.

[Coop]

Unless YOU specifically where there to HEAR her wishes, guess what? It is SUPPOSITION. HERESAY.

Unless Mr. Schiavo tells you so. Then it's apparently Gospel.

[Chena]

I thought I heard on Linda Vester's show this morning that there wasn't much money left. But as with most reports, I don't believe everything I hear. That being said, I had "heard" this before and wonder if anyone really knows about the financial situation right now. I suppose that information is kept private, but it would be helpful for a judge to know exactly how much money there was to begin with, a detailed accounting of what that money has been spent on, and how much money is left. I've heard so many numbers batted around that I really don't know the true answer to that. Maybe no one does?

[expatpat]

First of all, I count 6 (including Greer's) not the 11 that is thrown about by the Death Squad. But, more importantly, the 5 courts other than Greer's were ruling on process, not content.

[Bushforlife]

"If I ended up in a wheelchair, with my wits about me, I think I can live with that. If I was like Ms. Schivo, I would want to be let go. Yes, I have made my wishes very clear with my family in black and white."


So if you become demented and are unable to feed yourself, you would want to be starved? If you have a stroke, and are unable to safely swallow, and cannot express your wishes, and there is disagreement about your degree of consciousness, you would want to be starved?

[Edward Watson]

I had a neighbor, a young man of 22 or 23, vital, full of life. He always had a cell phone glued to his ear and was always fun to be with.

Sadly, he contracted brain cancer. Within the space of a few months, the cancer ravaged his brain. I saw him brought back from the hospital. I looked into his eyes - he WASN'T there!

It was a shell. There was nothing to indicate this was the same person I knew. He died the next day.

I've never forgotten that. To this day, I see his eyes in my mind - like a mannequin.

I know what James says but I, for the life of me can't imagine someone still being in their body when their brain has ceased functioning cognitively in the absense of drugs.

Now we go onto the metaphysical. What happened to her spirit during the past 15 years? Has it been trapped in her body or has it returned to God? Is it aware of the passage of time? If so, has it gone insane from its imprisonment?

These are very serious questions and I don't pretend to know all the answers - only stating my opinion in such matters.

As to her personality, since it is based upon one's cerebral cortex and the neural networks; if these are damaged or destroyed; then, ergo, the personality is lost as well.

Isn't this what the neurologists were saying when they claimed her cerebral cortex has turned to fluid? Your objection then isn't with me but with those experts who have examined her first hand.