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Mother pleads for Terri Schiavo's life (US House convenes at 1:00 PM EST - LIVE THREAD
Kansas City Star/AP ^ | 2/20/05 | Mitch Stacy

Posted on 03/20/2005 9:26:17 AM PST by Dane

Mother pleads for Terri Schiavo's life

MITCH STACY

Associated Press

PINELLAS PARK, Fla. - Hanging their hopes on a last-minute compromise in Congress, Terri Schiavo's parents notified her hospice to prepare to have her feeding tube reinserted on Sunday, her third day without food or water.

Congressional leaders from both parties hoped an agreement reached on a bill would allow the tube to be restored while federal courts review her case. The House and Senate were expected to take up the legislation by Sunday or early Monday. If passed, President Bush planned to sign it.

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But Mary Schindler pleaded for parents nationwide to call their congressional representatives and pressure them to vote for a bill to prolong her daughter's life.

"There are some congressmen that are trying to stop this bill," she said outside her daughter's hospice. "Please don't use my daughter's suffering for your own personal agenda."

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Rep. Robert Wexler, D-Fla., issued a statement late Saturday saying he will make an objection that would stop the vote Sunday. Any member can demand that a majority of members be present to do business. Rep. Earl Blumenauer, D-Ore., said he was trying to gather enough votes to defeat the bill Monday

(Excerpt) Read more at kansascity.com ...


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To: GottaLuvAkitas1
Here is my fear if we open this door...

But GLA that door is not being opened. The sole purpose of the U.S. Congress intervening on behalf of Terri Schiavo is to save her life, not extinguish or manipulate it.

281 posted on 03/20/2005 11:19:59 AM PST by jla
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To: All; floriduh voter

Link to floriduh voter's post:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1365111/posts?page=3541#3541


282 posted on 03/20/2005 11:20:00 AM PST by texasbluebell
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To: McGavin999

If he had a chance for a full recovery, now if he was unable to walk as a family we can deal with that. If he was going to be say like Christopher Reeves was, I would be thrilled. But that did not happen.


283 posted on 03/20/2005 11:20:01 AM PST by Beeline40@aol.com (What is an Esthetician...?)
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To: windchime
"Felos ... was a founding member of the National Legal Advisors Committee on Choice in Dying, and served as Board Chair of The Hospice of the Florida $uncoast. Where did the phrase "choice in dying" come from? Well, there was an organization called the Euthanasia Society of America which changed its name to "Choice in Dying" which no longer exists - it merged into the "Partnership for Caring" which was founded by Ira Byock, MD. Mary Labyak is corporate Secretary and Treasurer of Partnership for Caring.

George Felos is a student of Ira Byock, MD (a well known hospice physician) who advocates adding "aid in dying" (through terminal sedation) to the mix of "services" provided by hospices.

Byock is a big proponent of using "terminal sedation" to kill patients by sedating them into a coma and letting them dehydrate to death.

Felos has a long history of fighting for the right to kill patients (oh, should we say "right to die?") Right-to-kill organization "Compassion in Dying" directly cites Felos' efforts to kill Terri as an act of "compassion."

284 posted on 03/20/2005 11:20:12 AM PST by kcvl
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To: MineralMan
If you think about it, I don't believe we should be pushing for Congressional action that doesn't involve a majority. It's a bad precedent, no matter how you feel about this situation.

It's not precedent. Democrats, in cooperation with Bob Dole, have done such things before.

285 posted on 03/20/2005 11:20:15 AM PST by supercat ("Though her life has been sold for corrupt men's gold, she refuses to give up the ghost.")
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To: McGavin999

Just what are you getting at? That I made the wrong decision? That I am evil because I let him go? I loved that child more than anybody would know. I fought like hell to keep him alive.


286 posted on 03/20/2005 11:21:42 AM PST by Beeline40@aol.com (What is an Esthetician...?)
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To: rwfromkansas
This lays the groundwork for nothing. It is an extraordinary case that sets no precedent.

It is the judicial upholding of this "narrow" law that sets the legal precedent.

Get ready for appeals to be made for federal review for everything under the sun.

287 posted on 03/20/2005 11:22:21 AM PST by sinkspur ("Preach the gospel. If necessary, use words.")
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To: MarketR
So to answer your question...for myself, yeah...let me go meet my maker.

With all due respect....

Most normal people would feel that same way. When I hear this argument I must roll my eyes.

So let me put it this way....

If I should suddenly end up in a retarded state (not vegetative, please note), and my husband files a lawsuit on my behalf ostensibly for my rehabilitation, and AFTER winning the money my husband suddenly remembers that I didn't want to live this way, AND my parents are willing to take care of me no cost to the state, AND my husband denies me therapy to learn how to swallow even though I swallow my own saliva no problem, AND my husbands takes up with some other women, having children with her, AND STILL demands that I die AND no one's investigated why my husband, a registered nurse, made no effort to resuscitate me when it happened, AND I have an unexplained fracture in my skull, AND an entire state legal system including the attorneys risk losing their funds if I don't die....hey

Do not pass go. Do not collect two hundred dollars, please let me live until someone NOT involved in terms of fees and campaign contributions takes up my cause. Appoint an attorney to represent me, investigate all the facets, UNSEAL the damn financial documents for why are they sealed?

Give me every opportunity and the same rights as John Couey and Scott Peterson.

Hey, these caveats are important. Because to state that "I would not want to live that way" is oversimplification of a case where a state judiciary is run amok and the politicians stand to lose financial support.

Notice the only Democrats out giving press conferences are the FLORIDA Dems. And why is this? Do you think they may lose the Florida trial lawyers support if they don't?

Because once I die there's no bringing me back to life. I ask now that anyone impacted please give me every benefit of the doubt, ALL OF THEM, before starving me to death.

If I've got to spell this out, than I shall.

You can always kill me. You cannot bring me back to life.

288 posted on 03/20/2005 11:22:23 AM PST by Fishtalk
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To: rwfromkansas

I don't know, but if they are trying to placate Wexler, Barney Frank, Jim Moran (the wife beater), et. al, I'm concerned about what they will come up with.


289 posted on 03/20/2005 11:23:01 AM PST by Humal
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To: Wampus SC

All right, I'll see "good starting point" and raise "may each of his forked tongues contract shigellosis; may he eat beans all day and sit on a hot stove; may wasps nest in his body hair; and may he go on the Terri Schiavo diet until he finds out what a vomit reflex he is."


290 posted on 03/20/2005 11:23:03 AM PST by T'wit (Retire to Florida! Bring your estate. No feeding tube needed. The crematorium is warm and ready!)
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To: SteveMcKing

well considering what some on THIS website have called Terri.. I don't think we can throw too many stones..

I've heard "lettuce" and "carrot" among other things..


291 posted on 03/20/2005 11:23:56 AM PST by Awestruck (Let Terri Live!)
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To: MarketR
My concern is with the precident this sets with the rights of spouses to carry out the wishes of their mate.

There is no record of Terri's wishes. Period.

All we have is hearsay testimony--by Michael and his brother. I'll discount the brother, since he was not present when Terri made this alleged statement.

Let's assume that Michael is being absolutely truthful when he says that he remembers a conversation that took place 15 years ago where Terri said that she would not want to live "like that."

How do you ascertain what was actually said?

How can we know what she meant by "like that"?

How can we know that Michael remembers the conversation accurately?

Could the conversation have taken place, but it was not Terri who said it and Michael now thinks it was?

Could Michael have dreamed the conversation and now remembers it as real?

The human mind is very quirky when it comes to memory. That's a pretty insubstantial basis on which to determine whether a woman should be allowed to live or be killed. I'm of the very firm opinion that, unless there is objective and clear evidence otherwise--i.e., a written, notarized, witnessed, signed living will--we should default to life.

292 posted on 03/20/2005 11:24:02 AM PST by exDemMom (Euthanasia, NO WAY. Youth in Asia, OF COURSE.)
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To: McGavin999; Beeline40@aol.com

McGavin, you are out of line with your comment to Beeline.


293 posted on 03/20/2005 11:24:08 AM PST by sinkspur ("Preach the gospel. If necessary, use words.")
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To: mzbzybee
"Let her go. 19 judges have heard this case not one or two but 19!!! The spouse is the next of kin period and he is not the one who brought this out."

'Let her go'? What if she doesn't want to go? She's been hanging in there for 15 years or more so her will to live is great. Feeding tubes don't force people to stay alive, they allow it if the person is otherwise healthy and has a will to live.

As for the so-called 'spouse' being the next of kin, the man shacks up with another woman and sired her children. He got a Court order preventing the parents from seeing Terri for a long time. And who has more love and concern for Terri, her FLESH AND BLOOD parents or her 'husband' who lives with another woman?

And are you aware that Terri's parents have been begging Michael Schiavo to divorce Terri so they can take her home and care for her? And that he flatly refuses? Do you know the FACTS of this case or do you just follow the corrupted media coverage?

294 posted on 03/20/2005 11:24:22 AM PST by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" - Pope Urban II, 1097 A.D.)
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To: Beeline40@aol.com

You say fought hard to keep your child alive yet you wouold deny that right to Teri' parents and allow the husband who has emotionally abandoned her to have that right.


295 posted on 03/20/2005 11:24:44 AM PST by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME (A true blue Conservative))
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To: Fishtalk

Well put


296 posted on 03/20/2005 11:26:17 AM PST by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME (A true blue Conservative))
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To: Beeline40@aol.com

I guess you, like most liberals, think that if you repeat a lie often enough it becomes truth..


297 posted on 03/20/2005 11:26:18 AM PST by Awestruck (Let Terri Live!)
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To: GottaLuvAkitas1
Actually, I think our views on this issue are quite similar, but the examples of this case make it almost impossible for the fed gov. not to get involved. Here we have a husband that is so questionable about this motives I think 9 out of 10 would agree that he is not standing for his wife, but for himself instead. We have a liberal judge not ruling on the facts of this case, and the dems holding it against this women that she lives in FL. IMO (which means nothing in this case) This case is more about the hate/payback of George Bush and Jeb than it is about Terri.

I love ya!

Great summary of the hole we are now in. It's so deep now, I don't think we are going to find a satisfactory way out of it and I fear for the future and what we are allowing in.

298 posted on 03/20/2005 11:26:49 AM PST by MarketR ("We are pioneers of the world; the advance-guard, sent on through the wilderness of untried things")
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To: rwfromkansas
"is this true? Where did you find this?"

Go here and then scroll down to where it says ROUGH TIMELINE AND DECISIONS then scroll down to Feb 2000 and click on (READ) it is the Judges decision but it is in PDF and takes awhile to load 10 pages. If I recall what I read at the Judges conclusion he did basically throw out Terri's guardian ad litem statements. He also threw out statements by Terri's friends on what they said she wanted but listened to the in-laws.

Abstract Appeal

299 posted on 03/20/2005 11:28:04 AM PST by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: sinkspur

In what way?


300 posted on 03/20/2005 11:28:36 AM PST by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME (A true blue Conservative))
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