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With Schiavo Subpoenas, Congress Is Testing the Limits of Its Power
New York Times ^ | 3/19/05 | Adam Liptak

Posted on 03/19/2005 12:50:50 AM PST by Dane

With Schiavo Subpoenas, Congress Is Testing the Limits of Its Power

By ADAM LIPTAK

Published: March 19, 2005

The Congressional subpoenas issued yesterday to the doctors treating Terri Schiavo, a brain-damaged Florida woman, were clever, in the way lawyers can be clever.

Subpoenas are designed to obtain testimony and evidence for a court case or a Congressional hearing. But the subpoenas issued by a committee of the House of Representatives required Ms. Schiavo's doctors to maintain what they said was a key piece of evidence - the medical equipment keeping her alive - "in its current and continuing state of operations."

It is true that subpoenas occasionally call for recipients to preserve relevant evidence. But that evidence is not usually a human life.

Similar subpoenas were issued to Ms. Schiavo's husband and to a hospice administrator. Another subpoena, to Ms. Schiavo, sought only her testimony.

Also yesterday, a Senate committee invited Ms. Schiavo and her husband to appear before it, noting pointedly that it is a federal crime to harm a person called to testify before Congress.

Legal experts across the political spectrum said these maneuvers tested the boundaries of legitimate legislative action.

"It's simply outrageous," said Charles Fried, a law professor at Harvard who served as the solicitor general in the Reagan administration. "It is abusive and disgraceful. Even a senator has an obligation to use his power honestly and not to engage in subterfuge and pretense."

In remarks to reporters yesterday, Representative Tom DeLay, Republican of Texas, said the measures were needed to save Ms. Schiavo from "an act of barbarism," referring to the removal of her feeding tube.

Experts in constitutional law and federal procedure said the Congressional actions were unprecedented.

"I can't think of any parallels," said Laurence H. Tribe, a law professor at Harvard who often supports liberal positions.

"McCarthy, for all his abuses, did not reach out and try to undo the processes of a state court," Professor Tribe said, referring to Senator Joseph McCarthy, whose cold war hearings into communism were widely viewed as Congressional overreaching.

Congress has the power to issue subpoenas in investigations, but that power has limits. Here, the House Committee on Government Reform has said it will hold hearings on "the long-term care of incapacitated adults."

That is "an absolutely legitimate subject for inquiry," said Patrick O. Gudridge, a law professor at the University of Miami. The "tricky question," he continued, is whether keeping Ms. Schiavo alive would aid that inquiry or even be relevant to it.

"Congress is pushing the outer edge of the envelope here," Professor Gudridge said.

Others said the subpoenas were simply illegitimate.

"You cannot issue a subpoena that interferes with a constitutional right," said Arthur Miller, an expert on civil procedure at Harvard, referring to what he said was Ms. Schiavo's right to die. "It's a blunderbuss. It smacks of desperation."

The Senate's invitation to the Schiavos, meant to bring a witness-protection law into play, also raises questions.

"The federal statute that makes it a crime to interfere with witnesses presupposes that there is some valid exercise of legislative power," Professor Tribe said. "It would be hard to think of one here."

He continued: "It's Congress trying to change the decisions of the state judiciary and violating the purposes of federalism. It's Congress trying to deprive someone of an adjudicated right by political edict in violation of due process of law."

Arthur L. Caplan, the chairman of the department of medical ethics at the University of Pennsylvania, said the Schiavo case had already received ample scrutiny.

"It has to be the most extensively litigated right-to-die case in the history of the United States," Professor Caplan said


TOPICS: US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 109th; euthanasia; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo
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To: hawk911
There is one question that has been troubling me - is this woman on some kind of public assistance like medicaid or medicare?

According to Terri'sfight.org, Michael Schiavo received over a million dollars from a malpractice suit to take care of Terri.

LINK

21 posted on 03/19/2005 1:35:46 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Aussie Dasher
Where the hell do you Americans get all these dreadful bloody judges from?

Ask The Bent One and the kook fringe left.

22 posted on 03/19/2005 1:38:19 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (You have a //cuckoo// God given right //Yeeeahrgh!!// to be an //Hello?// atheist)
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To: mariabush

I've seen posts stating that .. but I don't know for a fact that is true


23 posted on 03/19/2005 1:39:01 AM PST by Mo1 (Why can't the public see Terry - What are so many afraid of ??)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

The Bent One? Such a description, sadly, doesn't reduce the list of suspects...


24 posted on 03/19/2005 1:42:16 AM PST by Aussie Dasher (Stop Hillary - PEGGY NOONAN '08)
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To: farmer18th
"It's simply outrageous," said Charles Fried, a law professor at Harvard who served as the solicitor general in the Reagan administration. "It is abusive and disgraceful. Even a senator has an obligation to use his power honestly and not to engage in subterfuge and pretense."

Something like a justice of the Supreme court has an obligation not to manufacture a woman's right to kill her children?

It's amazing how indignant these barbarians wax in defense of their own barbarism and heartlessness."

Yes..This is an act of murder and they are manipulating language to cover the sordid, brutal facts. From reports, we have learned that Terri's husband now has a common law wife and two children. After seven years he suddenly remembered that she would not want to live in her current state. Of course, his memory was jogged by Terry's receipt of some kind of monetary settlement, the remainder of which will come to him when she is dead..It is exactly like a person killing a spouse for the insurance money. Scott Petersen is on death row for doing something like this. I could hardly watch the fresh-faced MD John Kasich (filling in for O'Riley) had on last night who was giving giving a "Third Reich" explanation of why Terry should die. I mean..This young man gave me the heebie-jeebies. I thought, "Is this what we have parading around in the medical community these days?? He claimed to be some kind of "end of life geriatric expert." A new specialty, I suppose, which will grow into a method to get rid of people if they are not deemed useful. This is very dangerous territory, folks, and the US Congress needs to take Peggy Noonan's advice and insight to heart on this one. This is traumatic for good people to witness. It is evil and the irrational interpretation of our law is being used to bring it about as the evil is proclaiming itself right under our noses. We need a new law which would put insurance and other kinds of monies in the hands of parents upon the death of their child or would set up a trust for children if a marriage is younger than 25 years. Those rules exist for receiving retirement and social security benefits from a spouse. Why would they not exist here? I cannot stand the thought that this awful man will be financially rewarded upon the event of Terry's death!
25 posted on 03/19/2005 1:44:17 AM PST by jazzlite (esat)
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To: Dane

ok, that settles it thanx. liberals don't have a leg to stand on for this one then. if she received compensation for something that was done wrong to her, she surely deserves to be kept alive, even if there is virtually no hope for recovery, she is kind of entitled to that.

And as I said the act of removing the tube is murder by starvation. I really don't get it - if she can feel anything at all, then death by starvation is surely cruel. And if she is completely nonresponsive on all levels and doesn't feel anything at all, why does her husband want her to die and why does he care to fight it this hard, what difference does it make if she is kept alive with the money she is entitled to in the first place? I just don't understand this.


26 posted on 03/19/2005 1:45:13 AM PST by hawk911
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To: Aussie Dasher

I don't know about 'ordinary' Americans.. but decent ones do not.. even if a majority called for her murder, it still would not be right.. one of my favorite quotes, although I don't know who said it:

"Wrong is still wrong, no matter how many people are doing it, and Right is still right, no matter if no one is doing it.


27 posted on 03/19/2005 1:49:53 AM PST by Awestruck (Let Terri Live!)
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To: Mo1; All
Our family dog is getting old, he can't see and the vet told me he has heart worms or something. He does not even get up when we call him anymore.

We have spent the last 6 months trying to talk to our dog and he does nothing but stick him tongue out and fart.

The dog refuses to play with the children, bark and chase the mailman or keep cats out of our yard and serves no useful purpose anymore. He has become nothing more than a financial burden on us with absolutely no hopes of recovery.

Perhaps we should remove his feeding bowl and put him out of his misery.

28 posted on 03/19/2005 1:53:30 AM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: Awestruck

Oh, so very true.

I feel so frustrated. Can't something be done to save this poor woman?


29 posted on 03/19/2005 1:54:05 AM PST by Aussie Dasher (Stop Hillary - PEGGY NOONAN '08)
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To: Dane
With Schiavo Subpoenas, Congress Is Testing the Limits of Its Power

No, they are showing what the limits of the non-elected judicial are and are at the same time, hopefully, showing the true meaning of the Constitution and what it's writings were meant to stand for in reference to the inbred say of the population via a Democratic Republic system.

30 posted on 03/19/2005 2:01:47 AM PST by EGPWS
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To: Zeroisanumber
"Congress is definitely treading on very thin Constitutional ice."

and Judge GREER isn't?????

31 posted on 03/19/2005 2:04:01 AM PST by TAdams8591 (The call you make may be the one that saves Terri's life!!!!!!)
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To: mariabush

Mo1's just sticking to the facts that she knows to be true.


32 posted on 03/19/2005 2:06:03 AM PST by TAdams8591 (The call you make may be the one that saves Terri's life!!!!!!)
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To: Aussie Dasher
Surely, they do not support the starvation of an innocent woman.

Only the evil one's amongst us.

33 posted on 03/19/2005 2:09:00 AM PST by EGPWS
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To: EGPWS

It's beyond me how any person could this to a fellow human. Then again, I think the same thing every day when I consider the babies killed in abortuaries.


34 posted on 03/19/2005 2:11:30 AM PST by Aussie Dasher (Stop Hillary - PEGGY NOONAN '08)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Yes, something can be done..unfortunately, the people with actual power in this case, stand idly by with their thumbs up their bums, hoping that someone else will do something, afraid that a wrong move with hurt their political careers...


35 posted on 03/19/2005 2:12:30 AM PST by Awestruck (Let Terri Live!)
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To: expatguy

and yet if you did starve your dog, you'd be arrested and demonized in the press..


36 posted on 03/19/2005 2:14:02 AM PST by Awestruck (Let Terri Live!)
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To: Awestruck

I'm in politics. I know the risks of such an issue, but Terri's life is worth putting a career on the line.

Can Jeb do anymore?


37 posted on 03/19/2005 2:15:23 AM PST by Aussie Dasher (Stop Hillary - PEGGY NOONAN '08)
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To: Dane
Liberal elites are usually all for the expansion of government authority. But it if interferes with their right to kill the unborn and incapacitated, they're right to a man and a woman against it. Hypocrisy is thy name.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
38 posted on 03/19/2005 2:18:11 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My H<p>eart Forever)
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To: AmericaUnited

The Liberal Democratic Party of America = The Cult of Death.


39 posted on 03/19/2005 2:18:50 AM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Aussie Dasher
Our country has been in a defacto state of civil war for the last several years.

Things are going to get much worse before they get better Im afraid. At the moment we are drifting dangerously towards total anarchy.

It is easy to chuckle and say that civil war is impossible but I can assure you that the lines have already been drawn and the day is drawing near when brother will kill brother.

40 posted on 03/19/2005 2:19:07 AM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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