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"TODAY MARCH 18TH STARVATION DAY #1 FOR TERRI SCHIAVO...FREEP FOR HER LIFE" (Thread 2)
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Posted on 03/17/2005 5:58:41 PM PST by tutstar

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
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To: pc93; amdgmary
Greer looks more and more evil every time I see him.

That's what I was thinking, pc......someone pinged me to a different pic of him, with the caption underneath that he, again, denied a stay to DCF...and took all of 5 minutes' time.

Why did he sell is soul to the devil? I'm sorry, but there's absolutely no way that God's word appears to ever have penetrated his heart, no matter how long he sat in the pews of Calvary Baptist Church. As I said a couple days ago, "Ye shall know them by their fruits." Greer was a pew warmer; and Greer is on the side of death and corruption.

881 posted on 03/18/2005 6:02:06 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: tuckrdout
MIKE ENZI IS A HERO!!! FROM THE SMALLEST STATE IN THE UNION AND HE COMES UP WITH THIS!! PRAISE THE LORD!! TO GOD BE THE GLORY!!!! WAY TO GO MR. ENZI!

Agreed (btw, isn't Cheney from Wyoming?)

882 posted on 03/18/2005 6:03:00 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Brad's Gramma; amdgmary; phenn; russesjunjee

Marcia Stone, the principal at the school Cross Bayou is on Bay News 9 bitching about the vigilers. they have 600 students. The story is not about "the school" and the children being upset. A MURDER IS IN PROGRESS. A MURDER IS IN PROGRESS. The children needs to know that KILLING PEOPLE IS A CRIME. THE WORST TYPE OF CRIME. Bay news 9 is making us sound like the students need protection. We aren't scaring the children. THAT IS PROPAGANDA!!!!!


883 posted on 03/18/2005 6:03:43 AM PST by floriduh voter ( www.theempirejournal.com BUSTING TERRI'S BAD JUDGE EVERY DAY.....)
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To: floriduh voter

I thought HINO was supposed to be a law abiding man. IN contempt of Congress he would remove her feeding tube?


884 posted on 03/18/2005 6:04:19 AM PST by trustandobey
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To: Graymatter

A senate investigation as well!!!!! Well, about time. I've been begging for an INVESTIGATION and that includes the twisted judicial system in Florida. TOTALLY TWISTED AND CORRUPT.


885 posted on 03/18/2005 6:05:12 AM PST by floriduh voter ( www.theempirejournal.com BUSTING TERRI'S BAD JUDGE EVERY DAY.....)
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To: nicmarlo; Scoop 1

GLENN BECK RADIO has Bobby Schindler on his radio show right now. www.glennbeck.com


886 posted on 03/18/2005 6:07:14 AM PST by floriduh voter ( www.theempirejournal.com BUSTING TERRI'S BAD JUDGE EVERY DAY.....)
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To: tuckrdout

I'm sure you're right. Let's just all keep praying for Terri.


887 posted on 03/18/2005 6:10:29 AM PST by utahagen
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To: tutstar

Bay News 9

http://www.baynews9.com/content/36/2005/3/18/74896.html

Employing an "extraordinary congressional" maneuver, House Republican leadership early Friday made a last-ditch effort to keep doctors from removing the feeding tube of Terri Schiavo.

The House Committee on Government Reform plans to issue a subpoena to achieve its goal, a statement from House Speaker Dennis Hastert, House Majority Leader Tom DeLay and Government Reform Committee Chairman Tom Davis said. Details of the subpoena were not immediately clear.


888 posted on 03/18/2005 6:10:57 AM PST by amdgmary (Please visit www.terrisfight.org and www.theempirejournal.com)
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To: floriduh voter
per wfla radio 970. "Michael Schiavo plans to pull the feeding tube anyway despite all the legal maneuvering."

Where is Janet Reno when you need her????

889 posted on 03/18/2005 6:12:25 AM PST by mware
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To: Jrabbit

if a subpoena cannot be served in Florida, they can produce an Alias Summons and file it. It's the same as being served. THEN THE FEDS BETTER GO IN THERE AND GET HER OUT OF HOSPICE.


890 posted on 03/18/2005 6:12:29 AM PST by floriduh voter ( www.theempirejournal.com BUSTING TERRI'S BAD JUDGE EVERY DAY.....)
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To: sinkspur; BigSkyFreeper; All

NOW HEAR THIS...NOW HEAR THIS...HEAR YE...HEAR YE...ALL WHO WILL LISTEN...

I as a conservative _____ well better be protected from the fate that Judge Greer has inflicted upon Terri Schiavo.

My federal constitional rights and my government at ALL LEVELS had better afford me the protection and due process necessary not to deprive me of my life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

The FL Judiciary are renegades; they violate their own state laws while claiming that their state law demands Terri be put to death. Greer is breaking the law by even being on this case. He is breaking the law by acting as Terri's Guardian ad litem while judging her case at the same time. Heck, he didn't even comply with the laws in order to qualify himself to sit on the bench.

And a close buddy of the judge, the former Sheriff, Rice, who has always refused to investigate any lawbreaking against Terri's welfare, hired Michael Schiavo to work at the county jail. After employing the mother of his fiancee there for ten years. Just a small example of the corrupt good ol boy network trying to kill Terri.

And the lot of them are bound up in the hospice medicaid fraud, and the Euthanasia movement loudly proclaimed by attorney Felos and Dr. Ronald Cranford, who is the one hired by Michael to see Terri, who saw how well she performed, as the whole world has seen, then sent a report to Greer essentially saying she should be killed because she was hopelessly vegetative.

Then Greer ignored all the other board certified neurologists and other doctors who swear she is nothing of the kind.

No, my government at all levels better protect me from the likes of these evil crooks who would want to kill me on the word of an evil crook of an estranged husband, not on my word. And if the state level refused to protect me, then the federal had better.

As a conservative who believes in the constitutional protections of this nation, I DEMAND IT!!!!!!!!!


891 posted on 03/18/2005 6:12:40 AM PST by txrangerette
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To: floriduh voter

The police are probably what is scaring the children, if that is even true.

I'm not surprised at Mikey either. They want Terri dead.


892 posted on 03/18/2005 6:17:11 AM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: All; Scoop 1; phenn; pc93; floriduh voter; Ohioan from Florida; Chocolate Rose; cyn; tutstar; ...

Last-ditch bid in Terri Schiavo case

Friday, March 18, 2005
http://www.baynews9.com/content/36/2005/3/18/74896.html

Employing an "extraordinary congressional" maneuver, House Republican leadership early Friday made a last-ditch effort to keep doctors from removing the feeding tube of Terri Schiavo.

The House Committee on Government Reform plans to issue a subpoena to achieve its goal, a statement from House Speaker Dennis Hastert, House Majority Leader Tom DeLay and Government Reform Committee Chairman Tom Davis said. Details of the subpoena were not immediately clear.

"The Committee on Government Reform has initiated an inquiry into the long term care of incapacitated adults, an issue of growing importance to the federal government and federal healthcare policy," the statement said.

"The committee's inquiry arises out of the case of Terri Schiavo, who is currently being kept alive in a hospice in Florida.

"Later this morning, we will issue a subpoena, which will require hospice administrators and attending physicians to preserve nutrition and hydration for Terri Schiavo to allow Congress to fully understand the procedures and practices that are currently keeping her alive."

"This inquiry should give hope to Terri, her parents and friends, and the millions of people throughout the world who are praying for her safety. This fight is not over."

The statement also said there will be a Senate investigation as well.

"We're on very comfortable ground that we have a federal interest in long-term care," said Ron Bonjean, a spokesman for Hastert.

The move came after the U.S. Supreme Court late Thursday rejected an emergency appeal by Schiavo's parents to stop the removal of her feeding tube, while legislation that would keep her alive appeared to stall in Florida's legislature and the U.S. Congress.

Barring further intervention, Schiavo -- a severely brain-damaged woman who has been at the heart of a legal tug-of-war for more than a decade -- is to have her feeding tube removed at 1 p.m. Friday, under court order.

With time running out in the case, President Bush weighed in on the matter Thursday, saying society and the nation's courts "should have a presumption in favor of life" on such matters.

"Those who live at the mercy of others deserve our special care and concern. It should be our goal as a nation to build a culture of life, where all Americans are valued, welcomed and protected -- and that culture of life must extend to individuals with disabilities," Bush said in a written statement.

Schiavo's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, filed an emergency appeal early Thursday with the U.S. Supreme Court to stop the feeding tube from being removed, arguing that their daughter's religious freedom and due process rights were being violated.

But at 7 p.m., the high court rejected the appeal without comment.

On another front, the Florida Supreme Court rejected a request for a stay by the state's Department of Children and Family Services, citing a lack of jurisdiction. The agency had argued that it needed time to investigate allegations of abuse by Schiavo's guardian, her husband Michael.

In Washington, the U.S. Senate passed a narrower version of a House bill that would give federal courts jurisdiction in Schiavo's case. The House on Wednesday passed a broader bill that would give federal courts jurisdiction, not only for the Schiavo case, but for disabled people in similar conditions.

With the House already recessed for Easter, it appeared that a compromise bill would not make its way to Bush's desk, because there was not enough time to reconcile the differences.

The Senate bill prompted a terse response from Hastert and DeLay.

"House Republicans knew we had a moral obligation to act and we did just that last night," they said in a joint statement. "As Terri Schiavo lays helpless in Florida, one day away from the unthinkable and unforgivable, the Senate Democrats refused to join Republicans to act on her behalf."

In response, Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid shot back, "If the House Republicans refuse to pass our bipartisan bill, they bear responsibility for the consequences."

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tennessee, said he was proud of the Senate bill and called on the House to follow its lead.

"To knowingly and purposely starve Ms. Schiavo to death would be callous, cruel and immoral," said Frist, a physician. "I am hopeful that the House will consider and pass this legislation quickly."

Bills in the Florida legislature also seemed to fizzle by late Thursday.

Schiavo, 41, collapsed 15 years ago in her home, suffering from heart failure that led to her brain damage. Lower courts have ruled that she is in a "persistent vegetative" state.

Schiavo's husband, Michael, contends his wife would not want to be kept alive artificially. But her parents argue she had no such wish and believe she can get better with rehabilitation.

Both sides have been embroiled in a legal wrangle over whether Schiavo should live or die. Schiavo did not leave anything in writing about what she would want if she ever became incapacitated.

Over the years, courts have sided with her husband in more than a dozen cases.

A probate court late last month ruled that, barring a stay, Schiavo's feeding tube would be removed at 1 p.m. Friday. Upon removal of the tube, the court estimated Schiavo would die in seven to 14 days.

Her feeding tube has been removed twice before, most recently in 2003. That year, Gov. Jeb Bush pushed a law through the Florida Legislature that authorized him to resume the woman's feedings six days after a court stopped them. The law was later ruled unconstitutional by the Florida Supreme Court.


893 posted on 03/18/2005 6:17:21 AM PST by amdgmary (Please visit www.terrisfight.org and www.theempirejournal.com)
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To: floriduh voter

I'm with you: do not even respond to the trolls. It's easy to spot insincere posters who are not interested in genuine debate. Once you spot one, deprive him of the attention he seeks by not taking the bait.


894 posted on 03/18/2005 6:21:52 AM PST by utahagen
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To: utahagen

Agreed. Do not waste your time and effort debating them. We need to remain focused on the positive.


895 posted on 03/18/2005 6:23:39 AM PST by mware
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To: piperpilot

The Lord has used this case in many, many ways in peoples' lives.


896 posted on 03/18/2005 6:24:08 AM PST by freepertoo
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To: All; tutstar; floriduh voter

PLEASE VOTE FOR TERRI ON THIS CBS POLL

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/18/national/main681495.shtml


897 posted on 03/18/2005 6:24:23 AM PST by amdgmary (Please visit www.terrisfight.org and www.theempirejournal.com)
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To: txrangerette
No, my government at all levels better protect me from the likes of these evil crooks who would want to kill me on the word of an evil crook of an estranged husband, not on my word. And if the state level refused to protect me, then the federal had better.

I could use your argument to invoke the Equal Protection clause of the US Constitution to justify gay marriage.

Just remember what you are advocating here.

898 posted on 03/18/2005 6:25:41 AM PST by sinkspur ("Preach the gospel. If necessary, use words.")
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To: tuckrdout; phenn

Probably has something to do with Senate rules that allows them to talk and talk and talk and talk and talk...in this case, it would mean the starvation/dehydration of Terri while the anti-Senators talked her to death. Of course it would be gratifying to see them have to do that in front of the whole world, rather than have them covered for by other Senators who just refuse to bring the bill forward when they know it will be talked to death, but it would also mean Terri would be at the mercy of Judge Greer, so I think that is why they chose to go the subpoena route.


899 posted on 03/18/2005 6:27:19 AM PST by txrangerette
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To: utahagen

Good advice...hard to do, but good advice! I'll take it.


900 posted on 03/18/2005 6:29:07 AM PST by freepertoo
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