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"TODAY MARCH 18TH STARVATION DAY #1 FOR TERRI SCHIAVO...FREEP FOR HER LIFE" (Thread 2)
various ^ | 3/17/2005 | various

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
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To: Ohioan from Florida

is new thread in the works? did you see my ping? We are over 5,000.


5,081 posted on 03/20/2005 10:20:18 PM PST by floriduh voter (www.theempirejournal.com BUST GREER, READ TRUTH ABOUT TERRI'S CASE)
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To: All

Carla's story can be found at ProLifeBlogs.com

Terri Schiavo: March 15, 2005

Former Nurse Reveals Terri Schiavo's Capabilities

Carla Sauer Iyer, a nurse who cared for Terri Schiavo from April 1995 to July 1996 at Palm Garden of Largo Convalescent Center was recently interviewed by David Allen. Although we’ve posted several articles in the past based on her affidavits, she revealed a few additional details in the interview that have not been widely reported.

During the period in which she daily cared for Terri there was no publicity. “Just Michael [Terri's husband] trying to accelerate her death,” she said. Iyer explained that she would often sneak Terri’s parents, the Schindlers, into see her and that Michael refused to allow therapy of any kind. In fact, he was physically intimidating and would very loudly command the nurses “this is my order and you're going to follow it.”

“We were very intimidated … the whole place,” Iyer revealed, adding that some nurses had a restraining order against Michael Schiavo because his “behavior was so bad.”

When Terri had a urinary or upper respiratory tract infection Michael was visibly excited and would visit more often, asking “is she dead yet?” According to Iyer, at one point Michael exclaimed, “When is that b**** going to die?”

After Michael’s visits, Iyer stated that Terri, at times, became symptomatic for hypoglycemia (low blood sugar). Iyer said she found an unexplainable bottle of fast acting insulin concealed in Terri’s wastebasket that she speculates could have been used to induce the condition. She filed a police report but heard nothing further regarding the incident. Subsequently she received death threats she believes were related to notifying the authorities and was later released from her position as a caregiver because of her actions in support of Terri.

The nurses, including Iyer, interacted with Terri and daily witnessed her respond, laugh, and make requests. “We had her at the front of the nurse’s station… everyone loved Terri,” Iyer said.

When asked about the accuracy of the videos available on the internet Iyer said they were realistic but failed to capture Terri’s personality and, if anything, did not represent the extent of Terri’s ability to respond and communicate.

Iyer witnessed Terri consuming pudding and milkshakes every night and has previously testified that she fed Terri Jello. She witnessed Terri responding to her name, following others with her eyes and head and even moving her body with purpose.

In her prior affadavit, Iyer documented Terri's vocabulary:

Terri’s medical condition was systematically distorted and misrepresented. When I worked with her, she was alert and oriented. Terri spoke on a regular basis while in my presence, saying such things as "mommy," and "elp me." "Help me" was, in fact, one of her most frequent utterances. I heard her say it hundreds of times. Terri would try to say the word "pain" when she was in discomfort, but it came out more like "pay." She didn’t say the "n" sound very well. During her menses she would indicate her discomfort by saying "pay" and moving her arms toward her lower abdominal area. Other ways that she would indicate that she was in pain included pursing her lips, grimacing, thrashing in bed, curling her toes or moving her legs around. She would let you know when she had a bowel movement by flipping up the covers and pulling on her diaper.

Certainly this is a story that is not being carried by the mainstream press and has been supressed from judicial decisions. Iyer's testimony brings to light several facts including:

Terri Schiavo is not a "vegetable" and is not "brain dead". She recognizes and responds to others and makes attempts to verbally communicate.

Terri is not on life support but does receive food and water through a removable tube, which experts testify would not even be necessary if she were given therapy. This assisted feeding is a natural means of preserving life and not a medical act of life support or heroic measures.

Twelve medical experts and nurses who cared for her confirmed these facts. Video available through BlogsforTerri.com shows Terri responding and interacting with others. Health care workers have testified under oath that she expresses herself using words, such as "mommy" and "help me".

Terri is a person with disabilities who thinks and expresses her moods and desires. She is loved by her family and responds to their visits with smiles and laughter.

Terri Schiavo may be the victim of ongoing negligence and injustice. She has been denied therapy and rehabilitation by her guardian since 1991. Florida’s guardianship laws REQUIRE that these necessary services be given to her.

Terri Schiavo deserves to have medical tests and therapy. She does not deserve to be starved and dehydrated to death.
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And here's a quote from Judge Greer when Terri's brother and sister tried to have her fed by mouth, after the last starvation attempt:

"I don't want anyone trying to feed that girl.
The law of the case is that she is going to die."
Judge Greer re:Terri Schiavo. Pray4Terri.


5,082 posted on 03/20/2005 10:20:38 PM PST by Sun (Visit www.theEmpireJournal.com * Pray for Terri. Pray to end abortion.)
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To: Outraged At FLA

Fox has been very flaky about Terri coverage. Makes me wonder.


5,083 posted on 03/20/2005 10:20:47 PM PST by Wampus SC
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To: nicmarlo

i just spilled water all over my keyboard....

that poor man - I wonder if he knows how much the interviewer doesn't support him


5,084 posted on 03/20/2005 10:20:49 PM PST by Hamilton2 (.)
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To: cubreporter

has Rush even talked about Terri's case? I didn't hear him Friday as I was gone.


5,085 posted on 03/20/2005 10:20:54 PM PST by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: pollywog

Trust me.... When the President (God bless him!!) flies back to DC to sign Terri's bill, there WILL be a federal judge waiting to sign off on it as well.

OHHHH, I'M A HAPPY CAMPER TONIGHT!!


5,086 posted on 03/20/2005 10:21:39 PM PST by Humidston (Rats = Party of DEATH)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Reporter saying they've already been to Federal Courts. Schindler said that NO OTHER COURTS have heard this case.

"We hope we're back to square one on this." (through fed courts)

We believe in God...we believe that God has helped us through this.

Off now.


5,087 posted on 03/20/2005 10:21:39 PM PST by nicmarlo (.)
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To: Humidston

Yes I agree completely.

Barney Frank is more concerned with soliticiting young male interns than he is saving an innocent disabled woman (Terri) from a starvation death.

That guy is one sick sicko.


5,088 posted on 03/20/2005 10:21:48 PM PST by Filthy Rich Republican Fat Cat
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To: All; Scoop 1; floriduh voter; phenn; pc93

Congress passes bill allowing federal review of Terri Schiavo case

JIM ABRAMS
Associated Press

Posted on Mon, Mar. 21, 2005

WASHINGTON - Congress approved emergency legislation early Monday to let Terri Schiavo's parents ask a federal judge to prolong their daughter's life, capping days of emotional debate over who should decide life and death.

President Bush waited at the White House to sign the measure permitting a federal review of the case, which could trigger the reinsertion of feeding tubes needed to keep the brain-damaged Florida woman alive.

The House passed the bill on a 203-58 vote after calling lawmakers back for an emergency Sunday session for debate that stretched past midnight.

The Senate approved the bill Sunday by voice vote.

Republican supporters said the "Palm Sunday Compromise" seeks to protect the constitutional rights of a disabled person and rejected suggestions that political motives lay behind the last-minute maneuver.

"When a person's intentions regarding whether to receive lifesaving treatment are unclear, the responsibility of a compassionate nation is to affirm that person's right to life," said House Judiciary Committee Chairman James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis. "In our deeds and public actions, we must build a culture of life that welcomes and defends all human life."

Many Democrats who opposed the bill said the congressional vote placed lawmakers in the middle of issues best left to state courts and family members.

"Today, congressional leaders are trying to appoint Congress as a judge and jury," said Rep. Jim Davis, D-Fla. "If we do not draw the line in the sand today, there is no limit to what democratic principles this Congress will ignore or what liberties they may trample on next."

House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill. and others rejected the description of the brain-damaged woman as persisting in a "vegetative" state.

"She laughs, she cries and she smiles with those around her. She is aware of her surroundings and is responsive to them," he said. "This is a woman who deserves a chance at life and not a death sentence of starvation and dehydration."

Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., rejected the notion that elected lawmakers could accurately diagnose her condition.

"The caption tonight ought to be: We're not doctors, we just play them on C-SPAN," he said.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/breaking_news/11189154.htm


5,089 posted on 03/20/2005 10:21:53 PM PST by amdgmary (Please visit www.terrisfight.org and www.theempirejournal.com)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Nobody in my family asks me to nuke anything. Couldn't learn how.

Let me share one of my housekeeping secrets. Microwaved meals often have cooking instructions on the package! I kid you not!!! I always put the groceries away myself, and my child thinks I'm being heroic when actually I'm just disposing of those inconvenient cooking clues! No clue, no do! :)

5,090 posted on 03/20/2005 10:22:09 PM PST by Graymatter (WHERE...IS...GOVERNOR...BUSH?)
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To: Humidston
Whoops. Sorry.
5,091 posted on 03/20/2005 10:22:11 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (aitch tee tee pea colon 2 slashes dubya dubya dubya dot proud patriots dot org)
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To: MarMema

I doubt they used anything for pain... think about it.

Schiavo and Felos control the stinking Hospice. Those two probably hurt her bad. Thank God for the prayers of praying supporters.

I truly believe The Lord himself got Terri thru this, with some help from the GOP.

Terri's Dad looks so happy. He said Terri smiled when he told her, she was gonna get some breakfast.

What a weekend. Thank God Terri is almost safetly at a hospital. :)


5,092 posted on 03/20/2005 10:22:44 PM PST by Pepper777 (Terri Should be ALLOWED TO HAVE THERAPY - Not Death by Starvation)
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To: nicmarlo

Amen to your Wonderful Prayer!


5,093 posted on 03/20/2005 10:22:49 PM PST by Kitty Mittens
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To: Filthy Rich Republican Fat Cat

**soliciting**


5,094 posted on 03/20/2005 10:23:01 PM PST by Filthy Rich Republican Fat Cat
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To: pollywog

Rush came out of his coma last Friday and began speaking about Terri's case just like a normal human being would.


5,095 posted on 03/20/2005 10:23:19 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Filthy Rich Republican Fat Cat

knock off the personal attacks


5,096 posted on 03/20/2005 10:23:37 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator
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To: pollywog

He was all over it. From what I remember (shush y'all..) Friday was pretty much all about Terri! All the shows I heard.

It was a great thing.


5,097 posted on 03/20/2005 10:23:51 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (aitch tee tee pea colon 2 slashes dubya dubya dubya dot proud patriots dot org)
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To: Pepper777

it makes me sick the way the parents and siblings are at Michael Schiavo's mercy as far as seeing Terri.


5,098 posted on 03/20/2005 10:23:53 PM PST by Hamilton2 (.)
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To: Pepper777

Yes, I heard that tape.

Arresting Greer and Felos-- I think it just got a little closer. Phil's poster just reminded me how good Greer would look in orange. It's his color.


5,099 posted on 03/20/2005 10:24:10 PM PST by Wampus SC
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To: Humidston

That is GREAT NEWS, Humidston. Thanks for the info!


5,100 posted on 03/20/2005 10:24:40 PM PST by Filthy Rich Republican Fat Cat
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