"TODAY MARCH 18TH STARVATION DAY #1 FOR TERRI SCHIAVO...FREEP FOR HER LIFE" (Thread 2)

various ^ | 3/17/2005 | various

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At Admin request new thread!

Link to first thread.

[Saundra Duffy]

Ted Kennedy has a sister who is mentally retarded and lives in a nursing facility due to the fact that JOSEPH KENNEDY ORDERED A LABOTOMY ON HIS OWN DAUGHTER!!! Now Ted Kennedy wants to participate in the murder of Terri? For God's sake, when will this madness end.

[pickyourpoison]

Geeze, Ted needs to buy a submarine and retire.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

"Perhaps for the first time in American history," commented Alliance Defense Fund attorney Michael Johnson, "we have a court ordering essentially the murder of an innocent person."

Not true. People have already been starved by order of a judge.

This may be the first time so many people were made aware that courts can order you starved to death, and how few protections you have from it once the court rules.
Marjourie's story is outrageous. Marjorie had made it clear once upon a time she didn't want to be kept alive, if incapacitated, but once it started, the pain of dehydrationb made her beg for food and water (she was still able to speak and not in a PVS). A lawyer got an injunction, but because he could not honestly admit that thirst crazed Marjorie was in her right mind when she asked to be fed and watered, the judge ruled that they WOULD go through the dehydration. From what I understand, she died naturally before they did this a second time.

[blueriver]

I could be wrong but wasn't Wolfson chosen by Gov. Bush? That is the part I don't understand.

[Scoop 1]

This is being posted at www.theempirejournal.com but its important enough I'm posting here---please send this with the link to www.theempirejournal.com to all lawmkers, state and federal for the true story of the Schiavo case to come forth, for a US Department of Justice investigation to be immediately initiated, state grand jury, and Greer, Michael Schiavo and Felos to be prosecuted


TERRI SCHIAVO’S HUSBAND FITS PROFILE OF WIFE ABUSER, PER PSYCHIATRIST

“As Terri Schiavo starves to death, it is time to alert more lawmakers to the truth: the wrong person is being ‘punished’ for Terri Schiavo’s current state,” says Carole Lieberman, M.D. a Board Certified Psychiatrist on the Clinical Faculty of UCLA. Having interviewed Terri’s father on her radio show (“Dr. Carole’s Couch” on voiceamerica.com), Dr. Lieberman uncovered the fact that Terri’s husband, Michael Schiavo, fits the profile of a wife-abuser – the same profile that fit O.J. Simpson and Scott Peterson. At Terri’s father’s request, Dr. Lieberman put her opinion in writing (see below) so that the family could provide it to their attorneys, Governor Jeb Bush and Florida DCFS – who subsequently have begun investigating the possibility (supported by medical records and witnesses) that Michael Schiavo may well be the one responsible for the collapse that Terri suffered 15 years ago. Even offers of $1 million were not enough for Michael to take the risk of Terri being around ‘to talk’. “Since writing my preliminary opinion, further information has come to light that continues to support this position. Unless this travesty of justice is stopped, the answer will truly lie where the bones are buried,” warns Dr. Lieberman.


July 12, 2004
PRELIMINARY THOUGHTS ON HOW TERRI SCHIAVO’S HUSBAND, MICHAEL, FITS THE PROFILE OF A WIFE ABUSER
Based upon my interviews of Terri’s father, Robert Schindler, and my research into media accounts of her case, I can provide the following preliminary opinions at this time:
--As the author of the book, Bad Boys: Why We Love Them, How to Live with Them and When to Leave Them, I have studied men who exhibit pathology in their relationships with women. Profiles of the twelve different types of bad boys are explained. Michael Schiavo fits the profile, described in the book as the Prince of Darkness (see chapter 13). O.J. Simpson was cited as a classic example of this type, and there are indeed similarities between the two men. It is especially significant to note that O.J. flew into a homicidal rage when he realized that Nicole was totally abandoning him, as is characteristic of these impulsive men who most dread being abandoned by their woman. Similarly, Michael Schiavo was likely to have known that Terri had begun making plans to divorce him, since she had told a coworker and family member. Stalking is characteristic of this type of man, as well. And a girlfriend of Michael’s, Cindy, accused him of stalking her in 2001.
--Terri’s personality fits that of a woman who would have been attracted (and attractive) to such a man. She was a loner as a child. In high school she was overweight and not popular with boys. She had low self-esteem. She was extremely compassionate, nurturing and subservient. They met when Terri was 20 years old, and married by the time she was 21. Such whirlwind courtships are typical of these men, who are able to spot a vulnerable woman they can dominate, and eager to seal her commitment to him.
Terri was frightened to object to Michael’s pathologically controlling behavior. For example, he would monitor her odometer to control where she went. He tried to isolate her from her friends and family. She had to account for every penny, though they often lived on her income, since he would be fired, sometimes only after two weeks. He would splurge on $400 suits for himself, while she had to economize. He called her at work 3-4 times a day, often complaining of hating his job because no one appreciated him. He was often observed scolding her.
--Terri’s family observed black and blue marks on her before the incident that plunged her into her current state. Medical records and/or experts have revealed that her neck injury was consistent with strangulation. A bone scan revealed multiple fractures occurring within 1-2 months before or after the incident, which has been described as equivalent to her being “hit by a mach truck”. Michael has given three different explanations of how he found Terri after the incident.
--Michael has had Terri’s jewelry re-set into a ring for himself. Terri had two beloved cats that she adopted from an animal shelter, where they’d landed after being mistreated. When he moved in with his girlfriend, Cindy, he had Terri’s cats euthanized. Psychologically, this is symbolic of what he is trying to do now to Terri.
--Michael has been under psychiatric care, including being prescribed several psychotropic medications. One of his treating therapists, Dr. Peter Kaplan, told Terri’s father that he should have called the police after Michael argued with Terri’s sister, Susanne, and Michael tried to attack her. This occurred right after Terri’s collapse, when they were all in a house together. Terri’s father told Susanne to lock her door and keep a hammer nearby.
--As a psychiatric expert witness, I have had experience performing psychiatric examinations of men like Michael Schiavo, and testifying in court about similar cases. The above is simply meant to illustrate some of the indications that Michael fits the profile of an abusive husband. He should most definitely be investigated as the perpetrator of the ‘incident’ that caused Terri’s collapse and her current condition. If Terri were to be allowed to die, as Michael has been desperately struggling to achieve for years, it could help him escape detection. This would be a grave miscarriage of justice.

Dr. Lieberman is the psychiatrist who instigated the investigation into Michael Jackson’s current accuser.

[Saundra Duffy]

Michael Schiavo fits the profile of a monster from hell.

[Scoop 1]

http://www.theempirejournal.com/03200506_help_save_terris_life.htm and http://www.terrisfight.org

Call or email your legislators NOW!

[Orlando]

On Palm Sunday

[Saundra Duffy]

Yep. On Palm Sunday, no less. I wonder if Greer planned for Terri to be starving ON PALM SUNDAY.

[Orlando]

Wolfson was pick by Greer friend judge ____?

[pollywog]

amen

[pollywog]

Good morning Saundra.Praying today as I leave AZ to come home to Calif, that Terri will be sustained by God's heavenly manna and that He will keep His mighty Hand on her brow, filling her with peace and renewed strength.

[krb]

Isn't this day #2?

[pollywog]

It's a spiritual battle, that's for sure.

oh yes it is a spiritual battle.

[syriacus]

Marjorie had made it clear once upon a time she didn't want to be kept alive, if incapacitated,

Exactly. What do we do with people who are actually incapacitated and have changed their minds about wanting to be starved to death?

Many healthy people are saying they would not want to be kept alive if they were in Terri's condition.

Many people believe Michael when he says Terri ONCE said she would (in effect) want to be starved rather than live in her condition.

But, how do the courts know what Terri is thinking NOW?

As well as writing living wills, people should set up, in writing, various low-level methods of indicating that they wish to be kept alive, if they are seriously disabled.

I know there are many reasons that the signalling system might not work , but it's worth a try. Then the God-playing judge could attempt to question the patient directly, instead relying on the testimony of spouses who have already betrayed the patient. A lack of a pre-arranged low-level response should not automatically be taken as a desire to die. But the presence of the response, should be taken as a desire to live.

It sounds like Terri would be able to indicate to Greer that she wants to live.

But the blind "Starving judge" Greer won't even visit Terri.

[Orlando]

I can't understand this, most of the democrats around here where I live are for saving Terri, why would they go against them ? Many Catholic Democrats...what is wrong with this picture?

[pollywog]

all of my Catholic friends are for saving her too.

[Saundra Duffy]

I read that Wexler in the House and Kennedy in the Senate are going to block or at least delay today's proceedings. They are trying to get enough support to block what is proposed. That's what I read. I'm looking for the link to it. It scared the bejeebers out of me.

[syriacus]

TERRI SCHIAVO’S HUSBAND FITS PROFILE OF WIFE ABUSER, PER PSYCHIATRIST

Very nice post.

[Just Kimberly]

http://www.house.gov/writerep/

For those of you in Kentucky - if you wish to send an email to our Representative in Central Kentucky, the above address will get you there. Also, simply going to the Kentucky official website will give the emails of other areas on Kentucky.

Come on ya'll - email 'em til they do their job!! Kimberly