"TODAY MARCH 18TH STARVATION DAY #1 FOR TERRI SCHIAVO...FREEP FOR HER LIFE" (Thread 2)

various ^ | 3/17/2005 | various

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At Admin request new thread!

Link to first thread.

[BykrBayb]

I just obtained a document that might be of interest to other Terri supporters. It's a statement from Dr. Hammesfahr regarding Terri's MRI, cerebral cortex, and PVS diagnosis. http://home.comcast.net/~bykrbayb/Hammesfahr.pdf .

Now go to bed. Goodnight everyone.

[FairOpinion]

Actually, if you read it carefully, it doesn't say Terri had an MRI:

He says: "the CAT scan readings OR MRI readings were misrepresented" -- IOW, he doesn't know what they used, but he knew ( presumably from the surgery?) that there was definite brain tissue there.

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Post #3226 and/or #3219 bump!

[Robert Drobot]

Colonel James "Bo" Gritz

For those unaware of Col. Bo Gritz, the link above should work for you. Col. Gritz is a tough as nails man of principle. That he drove from Arizona to Florida to act on his beliefs should be a wake-up call to all American Citizens. We are in deep do-do when we passively permit a two-bit judge -supported in his judgment by the entire American judicial system - to murder in a horrific and barbaric fashion an American who's only 'crime' is her inability to speak.

FreeRepublic.com rules forbid the spamming of threads, as it should. However, I want you to please read an editorial statement I posted from The Editors of The New Pantagruel. They are suggesting as a people we may need to take our protest in another direction.

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Posts 2607, 2529, and 2273 bump!

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where you been. Everytime there's a new article at The Empire Journal, I personally come to FR and post the new link and the title. Certain regular FReepers have asked for and obtained permission to publish excerpts from the articles and they are all allowed to put up links to any of the articles at any time. Anyone can read any of the articles (unless the hacker takes them and then you'll just have to wait for us to repub them) by going to www.theempirejournal.com. We have certainly shared our work and judging from the number of people reading our site everyday, we are being read worldwide. By maintaining control, we can keep track of who's reading what when, especially governmental agencies. It's our material, our work and I personally don't think we're wrong to want to maintain control and ownership of it. Intellectual property is no different that other property, would you want anybody to be able to take your car when they wanted to or come onto your property whenever they chose? Our articles represent personal property.

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He's afraid the feds are coming for him---I believe the feds know where he is at all times. He can run but he cant hide

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I dont believe the one senator thing is true.

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Earl Blumenauer is a uncompassionate, uninformed jerk. He should be innundated with copies of http://www.theempirejournal.com/0319052_attorneys_last_visit_wit.htm After he reads it, let's hear him say again that she does not want to live

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Bush Returns To Washington To Sign Schiavo Legislation

Mar 19, 2005 7:32 pm US/Central

WASHINGTON (AP) Congressional leaders hoped a deal reached Saturday would clear the way for a brain-damaged woman to resume being fed while a federal court reviews the right-to-die battle between her parents and her husband.

President Bush changed his schedule to return to Washington from his Texas ranch on Sunday to be on hand to sign the legislation.

"Everyone recognizes that time is important here," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said in announcing the president's plans Saturday evening in Texas. "This is about defending life."

After Terri Schiavo's feeding tube was removed on Friday, members of Congress worked out a deal to pass legislation to allow federal courts to decide the 41-year-old woman's fate and — in the hopes of supporters of the woman's parents — restore the tube that was keeping her alive.

The House and Senate hoped to act on the legislation Sunday, so Bush decided he needed to be in Washington so he could immediately sign the bill, McClellan said.

"The president intends to sign legislation as quickly as possible once it is passed," McClellan said.

During previous travels, Bush has had legislation flown to him overnight by military plane for his signature. But in this case, McClellan said that the fact that a woman's life is at stake made it necessary for him to travel to the bill.

"I'm pleased to announce that House and Senate Republican leadership have reached an agreement on a legislative solution," Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist of Tennessee said Saturday at the start of a brief Senate session.

"We are confident this compromise addresses everyone's concerns, we are confident it will provide Mrs. Schiavo a clear and appropriate avenue for appeal in federal court, and most importantly, we are confident this compromise will restore nutrition and hydration to Mrs. Schiavo as long as that appeal endures," House Majority Leader Tom DeLay said earlier at a news conference.

House approval was hoped for Sunday when the House planned to meet in a special session, he said.

The Senate session Saturday evening was convened to formally give necessary permission for the House to meet Sunday, when it otherwise would be in recess under a previously passed Easter recess resolution.

The plan is for the House to act on the two-page bill Sunday, or just after midnight Monday morning if someone objects to the bill being taken up on an expedited basis Sunday.

Frist said the Senate then would act on the House legislation Sunday, assuming it passes the House as envisioned, and rush the bill to the president for signature into law. Otherwise, he said the Senate will meet again after the House acts early Monday.

At a news conference after the Senate session Saturday, Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., chairman of the Senate Republican Conference, thanked the Democratic leadership for cooperating on an expedited procedure to consider the legislation. He singled out Democratic Sens. Ron Wyden of Oregon and Carl Levin of Michigan as two who had reservations about the bill, but agreed not to use Senate rules or traditions to block its consideration.

It takes only a majority of those present and voting to pass a bill in either the House or Senate, meaning a handful of members -- a dozen or less -- could be on hand for floor action.

As to the possibility Schiavo could die if a federal judge did not quickly order her feeding restored once the case landed in federal jurisdiction, Santorum said that would be "irresponsible abuse of the judge's authority" and that "I'm not going to speculate on what I think is a remote possibility."

First word of the unfolding compromise came Saturday from Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., who said: "What we've tried to achieve here is to give Terri Schiavo and her representatives and part of her family that believes strongly that she should be given an opportunity to live, that they have an opportunity to bring that case ... that the federal court be given a chance to review it."

Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, appeared at the news conference with Santorum and others in support of the compromise. Harkin has favored broader legislation that would apply to similar situations beyond the Schiavo case.

The compromise was similar to a Senate bill passed Thursday that would let a federal court review the state judge's decision in the Schiavo case. House Republicans had favored broader legislation that applied similar cases that questioned the legality of withholding food or medical treatment from people who are incapacitated.

Schiavo's feeding tube was disconnected Friday afternoon. Schiavo, 41, could linger for one to two weeks if no one intercedes and gets the tube reinserted.

Michael Schiavo urged Congress to stay out of the matter, saying he is just trying to carry out his wife's wishes.

"I feel like the government has just trampled all over my personal life," he said on CNN's "Larry King Live" on Friday. "It is uncomprehensible that a government can walk all over somebody's private judicial matter, because of their own personal feelings."

GOP Rep. James Sensenbrenner of Wisconsin, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, said the measure was "narrowly targeted" and did not set a precedent.

For a decade, a feud has raged between Schiavo's husband, Michael, and her parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, who have tried to oust Michael Schiavo as their daughter's guardian and keep in place the tube that has kept her alive for more than 15 years.

Michael Schiavo says his wife told him she would not want to be kept alive artificially. Her parents dispute that, saying she could get better and that their daughter has laughed, cried, smiled and responded to their voices.

On Friday, Republicans used their subpoena power to demand that Schiavo be brought before a congressional hearing, with lawmakers saying that removing the tube amounted to "barbarism."

The Florida judge presiding over the case rejected the request from House lawyers to delay the tube's removal. Late Friday, the U.S. Supreme Court, without comment, denied an emergency request from the House committee that issued the subpoenas to reinsert Schiavo's feeding tube while the committee filed appeals in the lower courts to have its subpoenas recognized.

http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/local_story_078203621.html

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The AP took a photo of the "Madd Italian" John Centonze (brother of Michael Schiavo's fiance, Jodi Centonze). The roses were left on Michael's sidewalk by a youth group as a reminder of Terri's life.

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Bob Schindler, father of Terri Schiavo, spends a few quiet moments before visiting his daughter at the Woodside Hospice Saturday afternoon March 19, 2005 in Pinellas Park, Fla. (AP Photo/Paul Kizzle)

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Terri Schiavo's sister Suzanne Vitadamo (L) supports her mother Mary Schindler (C) as she fights back tears after addressing the media in Pinellas Park, Florida on March 19, 2005. Brother Hilery McGee (R), of the Francan Brothers of Peace of St. Paul, Minnesota helps out. (REUTERS/Winston Luzier)

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Yes but if it was a healthy manatee they'd be freaking out and PETA would be on every news station.

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House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas, speaks to reporters regarding brain-damaged Florida woman Terri Schiavo on Capitol Hill Saturday, March 19, 2005 in Washington. Congress leaders announced agreement Saturday on legislation they said would allow a severely brain-damaged woman to resume being fed while a federal court decides the right-to-die battle between her parents and her husband. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)

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It's not just the photo.

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This has been hard. I think the Florida air is teeming with the essence of evil. That might sound crazy but there is a major battle between good and evil right now and if you've ever experienced anything like that you'd know what I mean. You can feel it!

Everyone keep praying!

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"Perhaps for the first time in American history," commented Alliance Defense Fund attorney Michael Johnson, "we have a court ordering essentially the murder of an innocent person."

Not true. People have already been starved by order of a judge.

Terri's case is the tip of the iceberg. We live in a world where people already can be euthanized against their will if someone else calls the shots about their care.

Author Wesley J. Smith cites the case of

Marjorie Nighbert, not terminally ill, who was admitted to a Florida nursing home following a stroke. Her feeding tube was removed on instructions from her brother. As she began to feel the effects of dehydration and hunger she begged, "Please feed me . . . I’m hungry, I’m thirsty." Nursing staff secretly slipped her small amounts of food and water. The case was eventually reviewed by a judge, who ordered the process continued. She died in April, 1995.

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Fox reporting that House convenes today at 1, if they pass it, the Senate at 2. If any house member objects to convening then they'll meet at 12a.m.

Some protesters spent the night at hospice. Some going to Tallahassee.

Wanna bet Felos is on the phone to Wyden?

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Photos from the hospice demonstration yesterday. There were more police officers than demonstrators.

Protestor with Judge Greer sign