House Votes to Move Schiavo Case

WP ^ | March 17, 2005 | AP

[FairOpinion]

The U.S. House passed legislation late yesterday to delay removal of the feeding tube that is keep- ing alive a brain-damaged woman whose husband has been given permission by a state court to allow her to die.

The House bill, passed on a voice vote, would move such a case to federal court. Federal judges have twice turned down efforts by Schiavo's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, to move the case out of Florida courts, citing a lack of jurisdiction.

Republicans in the U.S. Senate are introducing a separate bill to give Schiavo and her family standing in federal court, and they hope it can be debated today, a GOP aide said.

[windchime]

Bump!

[floriduh voter]

another freeper uncovered that the judge has a murder franchise operation here. Terri's not the first. They take wards of the state, get their money away from them by not allowing audits of the wards' property and THEN THEN KILL THE WARD. It is a murder franchise and the judge is involved up to his eyeballs. One woman escaped with her mother to another state. They were trying to kill her mom but they escaped.

[FR_addict]

Thanks for posting. I know you already know that Terri's husband is using Medicare/Medicaid to pay her bills, but he and Felos committed fraud to do it.

This is one of the reasons, he wants to kill Terri, besides the fact that she has numerous unexplained broken bones that show up in a bone scan that he kept secret from the family for many years.

Terri is not eligible for hospice care, because she is not dying. A doctor has to sign that she is terminal and will die within 6 months. Felos was on the board at the hospice at the time she was put in the hospice about 5 years ago. She was in a nursing home before then. The jury award was going to her care at that time, but not for rehabilitation therapy as Michael had promised the jury. Michael then hired Felos who helped concoct the Medicare/Medicaid scam.
Terri is on Medicare, while Michael lives in a very nice house and he and his live-in girlfriend both drive Mercedes.

Judge Greer will not follow the law and demand that Michael S. file the annual guardianship papers. He hasn't filed them for years. Michael S. has violated numerous other guardianship laws, but Judge Greer refuses to hold him accountable.

[ClintonBeGone]

I always wanted her to live, but what is living?

This is a question that you are only allowed to answer for yourself - no Terri.

[ClintonBeGone]

I always wanted her to live, but what is living?

This is a question that you are only allowed to answer for yourself - not Terri.

[pieces of time]

Where are all of the feminists on this? They are silent about a husband lording over a disabled woman, denying her treatment, taking away her rights, taking property of her body and her life. Haven't heard anything from the women's rights Senators either. Boxer, Feinstein, Mikulski, etc. all of those who stand strong for other issues are now mute.

[Future Useless Eater]

The people who keep bringing up the money issues are frequently
here arguing for a different agenda, such as assisted suicide.

Often, they feel that the decision to kill should partially
be based on how much it is costing, and who is paying.

Regardless of their reasons, money shouldn't decide morals or judgmental 'facts'.
I'd rather see it treated like the Bobby Blake case...

Require judgemental 'facts' in a life-or-death case be decided
ONLY by a jury of 12, not by a lone judge.

Require the standard of proof be "BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT"
--not-- "the PREPONDERANCE of evidence"

Require self-serving heresay evidence ELIMINATED or at least
STRONGLY degraded in life/death issues.

Allow condemned innocent life the same or better levels
of appeal as convicted murderers.

[ClancyJ]

Yes there is a difference - but that difference does not mean we kill.

[ClancyJ]

And that matters how?

[TAdams8591]

FIND YOUR SENATORS NUMBER HERE

[shhrubbery!]

Is this the same bill Senator Mel Martinez wrote about in NRO -- the one Martinez introduced in the Senate, and Rep. Dave Weldon introduced in the House?

If so, then it's the one I emailed my pathetic RINO congressman to support (no use contacting my totally pro-death Dim senators). Since it was a voice vote, guess I can't check on whether Rep. RINO did the right thing.

To my non-legal mind, it seems a little pointless to transfer the power of life and death over an innocent person, simply from one set of judges to another.

However, if it works (as we hope it will work with the recent class-action tort reform), then Godspeed.

[Ohioan from Florida]

My Lord! We are in big trouble if more people do not know the difference between a hospice and a hospital, between a nursing home and hospice. Between comas and vegetative states and brain death, between cardiac arrests and heart attacks. Between extraordinary life support and ordinary means. I could go on...but we need help!

[Recovering_Democrat]

so who are YOU to judge? God? I don't think so.

[Recovering_Democrat]

So who are YOU to judge? God? I don't think so. Wait...I KNOW that you're not.

[Levster]

If you allow your freedom to be taken away, you will go down the road that the US was never meant to go on. This isn't about one person's right, this is the control the government has over you.

If you tell your spouse that you do not want certain things done to you, than it is your responsibility to ensure that does not happen. Everybody judges easily, but when you are young, you don't actually think of death, thus you talk about it to your spouse only. The legal documents cost too much and there is too much hassle with obtaining them.

When you allow somebody else than the person you want to decide for you, than pretty soon the government decides who lives and dies. It is a terrible burden, but the picture must be seen on the whole.

A brain dead person will not have quality of life, never mind any monetary gains or burdens, life is only until the sole is in us. The sole has left her a long time ago. It is just a vessel maintained by artificial means.

The husband is an honorable man, doing what he promised to save her from, the parents are making her body suffer, let the sole rest. This isn't about life, this is about a families inability to make peace with the circumstances. Medically there is little difference between sustaining life with a breathing machine, a heart machine or a feeding tube, they are all aimed at sustaining the existence of the body by artificial means. 90% of persons who are able to communicate when on such machines will communicate that they do not want to be like this and it is painful to exist like this. They suffer, just because somebody else can not coop with reality.

[nunya bidness]

Rest in peace Spence.

[Xenalyte]

I am proud to be the first to ask, "Who's Spence?"

[nunya bidness]

Click on ApesForEvolution's homepage.

His passing was mentioned at LP by AuntB so I figured I'd bump his last post.

[AndrewC]

Smiling in the presence of God. How wonderful it must be.

Andy