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"FORGET THE NEO-CONS, BEWARE THE EX-CONS"
Email | March 13, 2005 | Chuch Muth

Posted on 03/14/2005 8:24:05 PM PST by Badray

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1 posted on 03/14/2005 8:24:07 PM PST by Badray
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To: Conservative Goddess; Boxsford; smokeyb; adb102; Libertina

I think Chuck makes a really good point.

We claim to be conservative except when it comes to our own pet peeve. Then we want to get the government involved.

With all of the exceptions, there isn't room left for common sense and individual liberty.


2 posted on 03/14/2005 8:28:28 PM PST by Badray (Quinn's First Law -- Liberalism ALWAYS generates the exact opposite of its stated intent.)
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To: Badray

Who dictates what makes a "conservative"?

For example, seat belts in cars save lives. I'm pro-life. I support seat belts.


3 posted on 03/14/2005 8:28:46 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (Stop Hillary - PEGGY NOONAN '08)
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To: Aussie Dasher

You are pro-life so you need the Government to tell you when to buckle up?

I don't get it. Do you want government control or not?


4 posted on 03/14/2005 8:37:48 PM PST by Snoopers-868th
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To: Badray

A lot of libs call up shows and claim to be conservatives or Republicans in an effort to make people think there is a tide in the leftward direction.


5 posted on 03/14/2005 8:44:12 PM PST by expatpat
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To: Trout-Mouth

When it comes to saving lives, government should involve itself - as long as it is honest and upfront.

All this bumph about tobacco, and then governments collecting millions in tobacco taxes in double standards at its best.


6 posted on 03/14/2005 8:45:17 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (Stop Hillary - PEGGY NOONAN '08)
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To: Badray
* "I'm a conservative...except when it comes to terminally ill patients using marijuana to relieve their pain and suffering. The government should prohibit pot smoking in the privacy of your own home no matter what the circumstances." sorry but i have to take issue with that. That is libertarianism, not conservatism. God didnt create one magical plant that would solve all our problems.
7 posted on 03/14/2005 8:50:36 PM PST by LoudAmericanCowboy
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To: Aussie Dasher

I think it makes good sense to wear a safety belt but the only reason for safety belt laws is another source of revenue for greedy local governments.

Getting people to wear their safety belts should be like manners.

The biggest problem with government legislating good sense is they do it in a ham-fisted one-size-fits-all sort of way that doesn't make good sense. Look what happened when they legislated air bags.


8 posted on 03/14/2005 9:00:48 PM PST by Duke Nukum (King had to write, to sing the song of Gan. And I had to read. How else could Roland find the Tower?)
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To: Duke Nukum

I wish you'd told my brothr-in-law about that two weeks ago.

If he'd been wearing a seat belt, he would not have been thrown from his car and, subsequently, would not be now buried in a grave.


9 posted on 03/14/2005 9:04:06 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (Stop Hillary - PEGGY NOONAN '08)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Seat-belts also make us drive recklessly. If there was a dagger coming out of the steering wheel instead of an air-bag, we would drive more carefully and there would be less deaths.


10 posted on 03/14/2005 9:07:07 PM PST by econ_grad
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To: Trout-Mouth

Seat belts save the driver, the other people in the car, and the people in other cars due to the added control it gives the driver. I'm all for seat belt laws, as lines have to be drawn somewhere. Driving is a privilege and a responsibility. Do you disagree with licenses also? Seat belts are just another means of ensuring road safety for everyone.</


11 posted on 03/14/2005 9:09:07 PM PST by Nate1984
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To: Aussie Dasher
Who dictates what makes a "conservative"?

Silly question. Me, of course. LOL

For example, seat belts in cars save lives. I'm pro-life. I support seat belts.

Seat belts can save lives. Lots of times they do. Sometimes they kill people. Should you be mandated to wear a selt belt when it might kill you? Should the government be your nanny?

Let the government inform people. Free people should make their own decisions without penalty for it.

12 posted on 03/14/2005 9:09:26 PM PST by Badray (Quinn's First Law -- Liberalism ALWAYS generates the exact opposite of its stated intent.)
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To: econ_grad

We have had compulsory wearing of seat belts in Australia for thirty years. In that time thousands of lives have been saved. Well worth it by any standard.


13 posted on 03/14/2005 9:10:18 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (Stop Hillary - PEGGY NOONAN '08)
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To: expatpat
A lot of libs call up shows and claim to be conservatives or Republicans in an effort to make people think there is a tide in the leftward direction.

Apparently they sign up in droves on conservative web sites and do the same thing. Especially on FR. ;-)

14 posted on 03/14/2005 9:11:17 PM PST by Badray (Quinn's First Law -- Liberalism ALWAYS generates the exact opposite of its stated intent.)
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To: Badray

You're not suggesting I'm a leftie, are you?


15 posted on 03/14/2005 9:12:27 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (Stop Hillary - PEGGY NOONAN '08)
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To: LoudAmericanCowboy

Welcome to FR.

Do conservatives not believe in small, unobtrusive government and individual liberty too?

If you smoke down feathers to relieve your migraines, is it anyone's business but your own? Why should anyone care if I actually get relief or if I just get high before I die. What are you gonna do? Put my dead body in jail for smkoking a joint on my death bed?

Part of 'conserving' the past is the liberty that we all once enjoyed to do things that adversely affected no one.


16 posted on 03/14/2005 9:18:11 PM PST by Badray (Quinn's First Law -- Liberalism ALWAYS generates the exact opposite of its stated intent.)
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To: Badray
deja vu again

Most of what will be said here has been said there.

17 posted on 03/14/2005 9:21:25 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Conservative wish to preserve existing evils. Liberals want to replace them with new ones)
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To: LoudAmericanCowboy

God didnt create one magical plant to give an excuse to install Big Government to ban it


18 posted on 03/14/2005 9:23:22 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Conservative wish to preserve existing evils. Liberals want to replace them with new ones)
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To: Aussie Dasher
If he'd been wearing a seat belt, he would not have been thrown from his car and, subsequently, would not be now buried in a grave.

I am sorry for your loss. Last year, two of my cousins were in a pretty bad wreck. Bruce, the younger one, always wore his seat belt. Walt, the older, stubborn one (like me) never wore his. We buried Bruce. Walt walked away with scratches and bruises.

I don't know if the seat belt killed him, but that incident reinforced my decision not to wear one.

19 posted on 03/14/2005 9:24:03 PM PST by Badray (Quinn's First Law -- Liberalism ALWAYS generates the exact opposite of its stated intent.)
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bttt


20 posted on 03/14/2005 9:24:10 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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