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Condi "Mildly Pro-Choice"
http://www.drudgereport.com ^ | 3-11-2005 | Matt Drudge

Posted on 03/11/2005 6:32:41 PM PST by Sola Veritas

Rice pointedly declined to rule out running for president in 2008 on Friday during an hour-long interview with reporters at WASHINGTON TIMES, top sources tell DRUDGE. Rice gave her most detailed explanation of a 'mildly pro-choice' stance on abortion, she would not want the government 'forcing its views' on abortion... She explained that she is libertarian on the issue, adding: 'I have been concerned about a government role'... Developing late Friday for Saturday cycles... MORE...


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To: Cicero
The single most important thing a president needs to do now is to weed out the judiciary and start appointing conservative, constitutional judges. That means that Roe v. Wade must be reversed, because it was the worst single offense ever committed against the wording of the Constitution. But you won't get conservative judges unless you are willing to fight for them.

I agree wholeheartedly.


It's all too clear that she would be happy to settle for more judges like David Souter.

I disagree totally. lol
Remember that Bush Sr was also pro-choice, and he have us Clarence Thomas.

It would take a lot of convincing for me to choose Condi as a candidate, but her views on this alone aren't the deal-breakers. I want to hear how she views the constitution, and a lot of other things.
941 posted on 03/11/2005 9:48:12 PM PST by Trinity_Tx (Since Oct 9, 2000...Just a new, and soon to be changed nick - I forgot there was a Trinity, Texas)
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To: Motherbear

But that's the problem. You sometimes can't divide health and life. If the woman with the tumors doesn't receive treatment, her health is threatened. But at what point does that become her life? You can't tell when the cancer has mestastasized without surgery.

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but we get to such a slippery slope. Shouldn't it really be up to the woman? How can we legislate that? Can we try to change minds then trust in the innate good of all men?


942 posted on 03/11/2005 9:48:25 PM PST by pa mom
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To: Motherbear

But that's the problem. You sometimes can't divide health and life. If the woman with the tumors doesn't receive treatment, her health is threatened. But at what point does that become her life? You can't tell when the cancer has mestastasized without surgery.

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but we get to such a slippery slope. Shouldn't it really be up to the woman? How can we legislate that? Can we try to change minds then trust in the innate good of all men?


943 posted on 03/11/2005 9:48:57 PM PST by pa mom
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To: Peach
I've seen McCain in person a few times during the debates. When the cameras are off him, it is obvious the man suffers from serious mental health problems.

How so? I've never been a McCain fan, but, in evaluating the possible candidates who could beat Hillary Clinton, McCain is near the top of the list. If Owens of Colorado, or some other leading light is going to give it a go, they've got to start building an organization soon and making some headlines.

Rudy could do it, but he arouses negative far right passions with his abortion and gun stances.

I may be alone in this, but I don't think Condoleeza Rice has the fire in her belly to run for president. She's simply an unknown campaign quantity.

944 posted on 03/11/2005 9:49:43 PM PST by sinkspur ("Preach the gospel. If necessary, use words.")
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To: Howlin

>>>What advice does the ALL ABORTIONS ARE MURDER crowd have for her?
You know the answer to that already; she has to die.>>>

Why do I feel guilty for laughing at that?

Damn, it's late. I'm all fuzzy brained.


945 posted on 03/11/2005 9:50:46 PM PST by sandbar
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To: FreedomCalls
McCAIN [to Bush]: Do you believe in the exemption, in the case of abortion, for rape, incest, and life of the mother? BUSH: Yeah, I do.

1. Rape
2. Incest
3. Life of the Mother

Life of the Mother is a cop out, there is so few cases it's just a political trick by pro abortion people. You want to be Solomon? Go ahead, you choose on the one in 10 million cases.

the other two are murder of an innocent to "remedy" a crime by a third party. It's immoral and sickening. ANYONE who advocates it is a moral slob and as far as I'm concerned, they can go to hell. ANYONE.

947 posted on 03/11/2005 9:51:42 PM PST by Protagoras (If the Republican Party enacts a new tax they will be out of power for at least a generation)
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To: Peach

Hey, you got facist, no fair! I only got delusional and scum.


948 posted on 03/11/2005 9:51:57 PM PST by pa mom
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To: Sola Veritas

Very disappointing, to say the least.


949 posted on 03/11/2005 9:52:06 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Coleus

I think you're far too harsh. She wants the Federal government out of abortion. I'll bet that she wouldn't want the Feds to decide on capital punishment, either.

From what I've seen, she is thoughtful and careful about words and how she uses words. When I read the quotes in this article from my point of view, they are pro-life statements.

Currently, the Feds are interfering in every aspect of "choice," as is State and more local governments and services. We are each forced to subsidize abortion.

That should be our new battle cry ( and would go with the proposition to encourage Congress to restrict the courts from all abortion cases):

"Get the feds out of abortion!"





950 posted on 03/11/2005 9:52:59 PM PST by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: Protagoras
Why don;t you forget trying to tie me to the President and focus on yourself? If you support murder for babies, you are evil and can go to hell. We don't need to talk about the President as if he is something special. Cut to the chase, it's you who is evil.

Drunk? You should have the decency to ask for this post to be taken down.

951 posted on 03/11/2005 9:53:09 PM PST by sinkspur ("Preach the gospel. If necessary, use words.")
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To: EternalVigilance
>>Condi has said abortions should be as rare as possible. What kind of position do you think that represents? I say it's as close to the president's as possible. Prove me wrong.

>Actually, President Bush has always been far too smart to say something that dumb. But it is almost a word for word quote from Bill Clinton.

That's the best all that Googling could net you? We didn't elect Laura Bush or Ari Fleisher.

No. Here's more:

~ Hardball With Chris Matthews 05/31/2000
Matthews: [Clinton] said he was going to make abortion safe, legal and rare,…So why ban it ?
Gov. Bush: I think the key is, is to change the culture first and foremost. I don't think anybody is under—I don't believe people believe it can be banned. I believe we can do everything we can to make it, as the president [Clinton] said, more rare.
And another:

~ Larry King Live, 12/16/1999: Bush said "We need to convince people that abortion is—ought to be rare—…

But I will bet that you will not admit you were mistaken nor apologise.
952 posted on 03/11/2005 9:53:59 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Coleus

Well, I guess thats fair, but the calculus is really this.


Condi.....


or...

Hillary!...ous.

And isnt the Fed Imposing, the whole reason that ROE is wrong....?


953 posted on 03/11/2005 9:53:59 PM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: Sola Veritas
If somebody wants a moderate Republican just to beat Hillary in '08, whis does Rice's name come up? McCain and Rudy would stand a better chance to beat Hillary.

And if anybody thinks that a Rice run for the White House will create a sesimic shift of black support to the GOP they are kidding themselves. She's a Aunt Tom too much of the black population.

Tim Pawlenty, George Allen, and, yes, even Mark Sanford are quite capable of beating Hillary.

954 posted on 03/11/2005 9:54:05 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: Torie

Keep your eye on Romney, he's moving right and making all the right moves.


956 posted on 03/11/2005 9:54:23 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: supercat
What if it means
(1) restoring states' authority over abortion again, and
(2) first working to convinct the public that a six-month fetus is a baby, then working to convince them that a five-month fetus is a baby, etc.
and only pushing strongly for restrictions that have broad concensus support?

The left knows how to work slowly toward an end. It's time that conservatives started using the same techniques.



Bless you! I agree 100%!

I keep saying, the only reason we can't even get the disgusting practice of partial birth abortion outlawed is because of the hard-nosed "either-or" radical stance of the pro-life movement.
957 posted on 03/11/2005 9:54:39 PM PST by Trinity_Tx (Since Oct 9, 2000...Just a new, and soon to be changed nick - I forgot there was a Trinity, Texas)
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To: undercover brother

It seems just as evil to me to make her carry it. I really don't want to be sexist, but maybe it's a male/female thing. Rape is frightening violence. I cannot imagine carrying the child. Some may be able to, better women than I, but that decision has to be private. How can any of us presume to make that call. And I fervently believe life begins at conception.


958 posted on 03/11/2005 9:54:41 PM PST by pa mom
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To: Lurking2Long

Your post just oozes with respect for life.


959 posted on 03/11/2005 9:54:47 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Torie
That is a rather nasty post. Is that typical of you?

Murder is a typically nasty business.

960 posted on 03/11/2005 9:55:10 PM PST by Protagoras (If the Republican Party enacts a new tax they will be out of power for at least a generation)
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