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Judge releases DCF document in Schiavo case
Tampa Bay's 10 News ^ | 3/3/2005 | Tampa Bay's 10 News

Posted on 03/03/2005 9:24:10 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida

A judge released the DCF document seeking intervention in the Terri Schiavo case. She's the brain-damaged woman at the center of a "right to die" battle.

The department of children and families document names Michael Schiavo as responsible for the mistreatment of his wife. The nine complaints cited are very technical. They essentially claim the abuse or neglect of Terri is in the form of the kind of medical treatment Terri is, or in some cases is not receiving.

The complaint accuses Michael Schiavo of: 1. Failure to educate using certain therapies in violation of guardianship 2. Experimental procedures performed without proper medical and legal procedures observed. 3. Lack of manipulation of the ward's (Terri’s) arms causing severe contractures

Circuit judge George Greer says he will make the document available to the public tomorrow. Greer ordered Terri Schiavo's feeding tube be removed March 18th.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: dcf; documents; greer; investigation; judge; righttodie; schiavo; terri
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To: o_zarkman44
For all the millions of dollars wasted fighting challenges from both sides of the issue there could have been a lot of good passed on to homeless people or treating illnesses that the outcome is more predictable. One has just as much of a right to die as a right to live.


Your statement reminds me of what Judas said to Jesus, when Mary Magdalene anointed Jesus' feet with oil, Mat. 12:3-5!!!
281 posted on 03/04/2005 11:54:39 PM PST by danamco
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To: Pepper777

Does anyone know if Greer can tell them to take a hike and not allow them the 60 days? If he can, I'd be moving out of Florida real quick.


Why would you move out of our beautiful State???
Would you move to Canada, as some said they would do after the election???


282 posted on 03/04/2005 11:57:51 PM PST by danamco
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To: o_zarkman44
I believe it is ethically more acceptable to have a trained medical professional administer euthanasia as to put a bullet in my head.

Zark: Why not move to "Old" Europe, i.e. Holland, you would feel right home there!?!
283 posted on 03/05/2005 12:00:53 AM PST by danamco
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To: o_zarkman44
She was nearly killed in an accident while driving drunk.

Zark: Self posturing!?!
Have you ever asked yourself WHY your wife was drunk??
Was she REAL happy in your marriage??
Who of the two of you were the "Guilty" one???
A truthful answer would be appreciated here on Freepers!!!
284 posted on 03/05/2005 12:15:36 AM PST by danamco
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To: o_zarkman44
Husbands have rights as well!


YES, and money "TALKS" like they did for Michal Schiavo!!!
285 posted on 03/05/2005 12:17:49 AM PST by danamco
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To: Gondring
Finally we agree on something. This case should be dropped immediately and allow Mrs. Schiavo to get some peace. Maybe Florida and the Schindlers could even get a bit civilized and allow Mrs. Schiavo to receive sufficient morphine to make the whole process less traumatic.


Welcome to the discussion, Mr./Mrs. Kevorkian!!!
286 posted on 03/05/2005 12:42:44 AM PST by danamco
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To: Theodore R.

Yes, taking care of Terri at home may be more difficult than I think it will be, but it is what the Schindlers are willing to do if FL will allow them to do so.


You sure can hire lots of help to care for Teri with $1,8 million!!!


287 posted on 03/05/2005 1:16:48 AM PST by danamco
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To: ContraryMary

Maybe sending Terri home with her parents is the answer to all this. Keep in mind that they already once put her back in hospice care because they couldn't take care of her.


They didn't have $1.8 million then! Don't you think they could hire a lot of help to care for Terri with that kind of money???


288 posted on 03/05/2005 1:20:13 AM PST by danamco
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To: lanceman
Maybe george can keep mikey company in a prison cell.


Then impeach Greer and send them all three in the same vehicle to prison!!!
289 posted on 03/05/2005 1:30:29 AM PST by danamco
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To: Saundra Duffy

Hubby and I visited the Holocaust Museum in DC in May of 2004 and they showed video of what Hitler's regime did to the disabled. It made me sick.


I lived 5 years under German occupation!
These videos should constantly be shown in every school classes in the U.S.!!
Our grandchildren would then see the world with other eyes!!!


290 posted on 03/05/2005 1:39:40 AM PST by danamco
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To: Rhiannon
If you had read prevoius threads, many people have offered to pay for her care. So now we should terminate people because it would be expensive to care for them?


With $1.8 million, I'm sure that the Schindlers would be able to hire sufficient help to care for Terri
291 posted on 03/05/2005 2:06:01 AM PST by danamco
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To: Rhiannon

If you had read prevoius threads, many people have offered to pay for her care. So now we should terminate people because it would be expensive to care for them?


My post 276 was a quote from Zark's own profile!!!


292 posted on 03/05/2005 2:09:02 AM PST by danamco
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To: Dasaji

MY grandmother had Parkinsons disease and also had a feeding tube near the end. But she still had her wit and her mind and was sharp as a tack to the end. But it was a mutual decision between her and my grandfather to maintain sustinence. She was of sound mind and was able to sound off her reasons to continue on.
Terri cannot voice those same reasons, that is why Michael was appointed her guardian, so as to speak for her wishes..
All those issues of sound mind decisions are just percieved to be on her behalf. But they are assumed. Just because one has involuntary muscle activity does not mean one has mental capability to feel. So all from that going onward are assumptions on both sides of the issue and there is clearly no side that is totally right or totally wrong other than the legal right of a guardian to do what he felt obligated to do 10 years ago.


293 posted on 03/05/2005 7:59:53 AM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: MortMan

Aren't the doctors on behalf of her parents also hand picked for their beliefs??? From the sounds of their opinions they are seeking a living guniea pig to perform experiments on. There are sure a lot of would's could's involved in their speculative prognosis.


294 posted on 03/05/2005 8:04:19 AM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: Gondring
Once the therapies failed and the evidence showed how bad off Mrs. Schiavo was, then Mr. Schiavo could have then accepted the current plan of action.

The problem with this idea is that the therapies were not failing. Terri was making slow progress. The fact that she was making progress at all should have sent him to fight to continue the efforts, but he stopped her therapies, even though $$ was awarded to help defray the cost of them. He never even followed up on the procedure to remove the implants in her brain, as was recommended by the doctor who performed the experimental procedure on her. Why did he stop? The money had come in and Terri was making progress.

If you haven't known this before now, I can excuse you from believing as you do. However, now knowing it, can you still think he had nothing but the best of intentions towards his wife?

295 posted on 03/05/2005 8:11:22 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Gondring

When has Schiavo ever been denied his rights? Seems to me, he's the only one who's getting to exercise them, not Terri. She has retained rights that Michael has completely ignored.


296 posted on 03/05/2005 8:14:01 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: danamco
Welcome to the discussion, Mr./Mrs. Kevorkian!!!

Although Kevorkian played the part of someone who cared for the ill and dying, his actions eventually revealed him for the selfish sicko that he is. That's why I don't appreciate being called that name. On the other hand, I don't have a problem at all stating that I believe people have the right to receive assistance if needed to find peace from a life they don't want, in a way that they can manage. I believe it is compassionate to assist in truly voluntary situations...Although I respect those who worry about a slippery slope into involuntary euthanasia, I think we could come up with safeguards, and it's my belief that the socialist control-freak do-gooders are actually just trying to block all euthanasia.

297 posted on 03/05/2005 8:16:13 AM PST by Gondring (They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
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To: Rhiannon

"A husband certainly should not have sole rights to determine if his wife lives or dies. A wife is not a posession or property. " you say.

I guess you think congress should vote every time to see if a personal decision is ok? How many people do you think need be involved in a personal decision? Usually the number ONE comes to mind. That is why it is called a personal decision. One can ask for advise and confer with others. But that does not make the confidant inclusive in the decision. The state does not have the right to interfere in personal adult decisions. Period!


298 posted on 03/05/2005 8:16:37 AM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: danamco

If he's not smelling impeachment, he ought to be smelling a prison term.


299 posted on 03/05/2005 8:17:00 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: danamco

Best analogy of the argument I have seen in a long while! Props to you (and Jesus)!


300 posted on 03/05/2005 8:18:59 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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