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McCain Touts Jeb for 2008
NewsMax ^ | 2/28/05 | AP

Posted on 02/28/2005 5:12:21 PM PST by wagglebee

The first name that popped out of U.S. Sen. John McCain's mouth Sunday as the Republican choice for president in 2008 was Jeb Bush, but the governor's spokesman repeated his position that he has no plans to run.

"If you're looking at dynasties, and by the way I'm a great admirer of Governor Bush, he's done a great job in Florida," the Arizona senator said on "Fox News Sunday." But he added, "This might be a wide-open situation."

In response to McCain's remarks, Bush spokesman Jacob DiPietre said: "The governor is focused on his job right now. He's got an ambitious agenda for his remaining time in office and has said repeatedly that he has no intentions of running" for president in 2008.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2008; gop; jeb2008; jebbush; mccain
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To: rottndog

Interesting theory.

Prove it.


121 posted on 02/28/2005 8:44:46 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: rottndog

That's fine, but it's a HUGE improvement from prior to when Jeb took office, especially in university admissions.

As far as the driver's licenses, I agree with you. I think it's a dumb move. However, I think you're ignoring everything else he's done (especially his fiscal policies), and labeling him a RINO based on essentially one position would pretty much mean that everyone is a RINO in your book. Are there any other positions that would classify him as a RINO, or is that it?


122 posted on 02/28/2005 8:45:38 PM PST by MedNole
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To: Waryone
Shrewd he is. He shuffled the deck, changed the terminology, and went to great rhetorical lengths to change the appearance of what he was doing. Yes, there were protests and sit-ins and marches, and lots of noise making. Yes specific quotas were eliminated. Some good things were accomplished.
However, when you dig into the details and find that there are specific programs for measuring minority contracting for the purposes of making sure there is enough minority contracting, you find that he has found a different way of doing the same thing as before. What will he do if he makes the determination that not enough minority contractors are getting contracts? And, when you give a contractor bonus points in considering the awarding of contracts, how is this not a preference?

BTW, I don't dislike either of the Bushes.
123 posted on 02/28/2005 8:56:12 PM PST by rottndog (Stop Jeb Now!!!!! NO MORE BUSH!!!!!!)
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To: Waryone
I live in Florida. Your point concerning Jeb Bush's beliefs about quotas/affirmative action is not true.

Thank you for your first hand observations and setting the record straight.

124 posted on 02/28/2005 9:04:24 PM PST by Once-Ler (Beating a dead horse for NeoCon America)
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To: rottndog
BTW, I don't dislike either of the Bushes.
Your tagline - Stop Jeb Now!!!!! NO MORE BUSH!!!!!!

I'm convinced...

you're not truthful.

125 posted on 02/28/2005 9:05:10 PM PST by Once-Ler (Beating a dead horse for NeoCon America)
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To: Wormwood

Never say never. Remember Nixon? Defeated in 1960 for the Presidency. Defeated in 1962 for governor of California. Everyone thought he was washed up. Done. Finished. Elected President in 1968 and by a landslide in 1972.

As I said, I honestly think it's a matter of Quayle hitting the ground running with an agenda from the get-go. What happened in 1992 was a long time ago. Much longer than Nixon's 8 year hiatus. In 1992 we didn't have bloggers, FR, or FNC. It can be done.


126 posted on 02/28/2005 9:07:52 PM PST by Norman Bates (Usama Bin Laden, 1957-2005)
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To: MedNole
I'll grant you that his One Florida Initiative was a good step in the right direction. I actually give him credit for that. Big ships turn slowly, but this one's turning. I thought his treatment of Ward Connerly was unfair and out of line, however.

On the issue of the driver's licenses, though, I have to stand firm. I always thought that one of the core principals of the GOP is respect of and adherence to the law. His stance flies directly in the face of this. I don't see how I can reconcile his willingness to subvert immigration law with core Republican values. Especially since he is the governor of one of the largest states in the country, sworn to uphold the law.
127 posted on 02/28/2005 9:09:00 PM PST by rottndog (Stop Jeb Now!!!!! NO MORE BUSH!!!!!!)
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To: Righty_McRight

I don't think the US Senate is a step up from Governor. It might be a step up coming from a small state but not FL. Just my opinion YMMV


128 posted on 02/28/2005 9:09:49 PM PST by Once-Ler (Beating a dead horse for NeoCon America)
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To: Once-Ler

Just because I don't want to see another Bush in the White House does not mean that I dislike them. It's o.k. in my book to disagree with someone's views without disliking them.

This is probably different for you, however.


129 posted on 02/28/2005 9:13:13 PM PST by rottndog (Stop Jeb Now!!!!! NO MORE BUSH!!!!!!)
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To: Wormwood

I'm not old enough to know but I have to think the MSM beat the heck out of Reagan as CA Gov and he came back. The MSM beat up Nixon as Ike's VP. Any older Freepers able to give some perspective and compare the attacks on Nixon as VP and Reagan as Gov to Quayle?


130 posted on 02/28/2005 9:14:54 PM PST by Once-Ler (Beating a dead horse for NeoCon America)
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To: Howlin; Wormwood; Fudd Fan

All those inclined should contact Mr. Quayle with their support. He has mailing addresses at www.vicepresidentdanquayle.com

Dan Quayle is a true-blue committed conservative. He more than has what it takes to carry on the torch of America. And he would be a worthy successor to W. Vision, integrity, experience, faith, values: Dan is our man!


131 posted on 02/28/2005 9:16:45 PM PST by Norman Bates (Usama Bin Laden, 1957-2005)
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To: rottndog
It's o.k. in my book to disagree with someone's views without disliking them.

I do have a hard time liking people who I believe express dishonesty. I'm a father and I often see fraudulant people as bad for America and my children's future. Jesus said love your enemy but I am not Jesus.

If you were mearly saying something like..."I don't think Jeb is the best choice," or even "I disagree," as you clame in this post I would not have responded. But you posted Stop Jeb Now!!!!! NO MORE BUSH!!!!!! This is a dire warning with many exclaimation points. I don't think you'ra stupid...you understand the words you chose and the way you expressed it is inflamitory and looks a lot like the crap one reads at DU. It is the way one would write "THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

All I said was that I was convinced you don't like the Bush's. I don't even need to check other threads to be convinced...it is clear from your posts at #107 and #109 and #114. Why can't you admit it?

132 posted on 02/28/2005 9:32:39 PM PST by Once-Ler (Beating a dead horse for NeoCon America)
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To: Once-Ler

It was 1992. Bush and Quayle were running as incumbents and were unlucky enough to have a medium-sized "soft patch" recession during election year. And the "duh" move of reneging on "no new taxes" didn't help either. With that, a moderately conservative 3rd party, a ruthless Clinton campaign, and the somewhat incoherency of the Bush message (we don't even need to mention Old Media's "help"), Clinton squeaked into the Office with an unrespectable 43%. Quayle was portrayed as negatively as being unintelligent.

As for 2000, his campaign never took off. I couldn't say what happened.

But passed time has a way to heal old wounds and 13 years is plenty to put the past where it belongs. We don't need to argue about whether he's intelligent. What's clear is that the MSM stuck that to him. But today they no longer have the carte blanche they had in 1992. We have bloggers, FR, FNC and the likes. I think he has a good chance at getting a fair shake if he hits the ground running with his agenda. The Weekly Stand with Kristol will help, too.

I don't even need to mention that he's emminently qualified for the Office. At least, that's how I feel. America can never have enough pro-family, pro-values, pro-defense committed conservatives like Dan. The man has depth and vision.


133 posted on 02/28/2005 9:35:45 PM PST by Norman Bates (Usama Bin Laden, 1957-2005)
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To: Norman Bates

Maybe my post was unclear. I know plenty about how Quayle was mistreated by the MSM. I was looking for someone who could give some perspective on Nixon's treatment at the hands of the press during the 50's as well as Reagan's during the 60's.


134 posted on 02/28/2005 10:09:43 PM PST by Once-Ler (Beating a dead horse for NeoCon America)
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To: Once-Ler

Look I am not old enough either. I was just trying to share my enthusiasm and my ideas. For some that is enough.


135 posted on 02/28/2005 10:14:40 PM PST by Norman Bates (Usama Bin Laden, 1957-2005)
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To: Norman Bates
No need to get angry. I agree, Quayle is a great and maligned man. If I gave a different impression it was unintended.

We agree. There is no need to defend your opinion. I was just trying to be clear. I'm searching for validation that the media tried and failed to kill the future of 2 other great men Nixon and Reagan.

Here is something I hope you can appreciate, or curse me for pointing out. Want to cry for an hour? Read this A Dead Soldier's Words on Iraq: "The Price Is Worth It" (RIP Sgt. 1st Class David J. Salie)

This man is several years younger than I and my brain hurts from thinking about his wife and children. I can't stop crying. I can't stop thinking about him. I would welcome a flame war to distract me.

136 posted on 02/28/2005 11:08:05 PM PST by Once-Ler (RIP Sgt. 1st Class David J. Salie)
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To: wagglebee

"If you're looking at dynasties, and by the way I'm a great admirer of Governor Bush..."

Whatever, if that's not a jab, I don't know what one is.


137 posted on 02/28/2005 11:09:54 PM PST by streetpreacher (There will be no Trolls in heaven.)
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To: wagglebee

Ugh. Then that means I don't want Jeb. Not that I did in the first place.


138 posted on 02/28/2005 11:10:30 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: montag813; All
Here is your link CLICK - she descibes herself as a ``pro-choice evangelical.''
139 posted on 03/01/2005 5:33:39 AM PST by areafiftyone (The Democrat's Mind: The Hamster's dead but the wheel's still spinning!)
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To: wagglebee

Just saw that. I am thinking that I would rather it not be another Bush. I love the two we already elected as president, but I don't think I would be comfortable with a third Bush as pres. I don't know why. Just doesn't sound right. How about Bill Frist or Michael Steele????? or Condi????


140 posted on 03/01/2005 11:21:48 AM PST by buffyt (If it is important to protect people from a local crime - what about an entire nation?)
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