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Victor Davis Hanson: Common Ground
Jewish World Review ^ | February 24, 2005 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 02/24/2005 6:36:45 AM PST by quidnunc

Democrats call for President Bush to use his conservative majorities to find common solutions to perennial problems that might find resonance with Americans tired of partisan bickering. There are plenty of places to start on a variety of different issues.

• The Middle East. The isolationist Right has not wished to risk much for anything abroad, while the hard Left recently has been happy with any dictator that praised the "people" and professed anti-Americanism. Yet most Americans in between can conclude that Middle Eastern autocracy is the fuel that drives terrorism, and that the only strategy to prevent wider war later is to promote freedom over there now.

The way not to have to intervene militarily in Iran and Syria is to censure both diplomatically, elevate their dissidents to the world stage, and cut off all commerce with these rogue regimes. Call the promotion of democracy a conservative desire for American security or a liberal move to promote the unrepresented. Either way it alone offers hope for a safe Middle East.

• Energy. It makes little sense to drive a 7,000-pound SUV down to the local grocery store. True, eventually the market would curb such extravagance — when gas climbs to $5 a gallon. But in the meantime, too many billions of petrodollars are going to too many terrorists in the Middle East.

If the conservationist Left wins mandated fuel economy, then it should at least relent on nuclear power that has evolved well beyond the scariness of the Three-Mile-Island era, and would encourage energy self-sufficiency without heating up the atmosphere.

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To: quidnunc

read later, thanks.


41 posted on 02/24/2005 11:07:21 AM PST by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Bahbah; All

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1349950/posts
Victor Davis Hanson v. Ronald Edsforth
The Dartmouth Review ^ | February 11, 2005 | Nathaniel Ward


More Hanson!



42 posted on 02/24/2005 11:51:04 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: MEG33

Thanks, MEG. It looks like seabass58 is one for the history books here on FR. Quite the neandercon, imho.


43 posted on 02/24/2005 12:44:52 PM PST by Bahbah
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To: Bahbah

Sometimes I like to play awhile..I don't know who alerted the mods..Might be a retread.


44 posted on 02/24/2005 12:47:36 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: MEG33
I don't know who alerted the mods.

Twasn't I. I completely disagreed with him/her, but the debate seemed to be in good faith. You are probably right on the retread thing.

45 posted on 02/24/2005 12:50:07 PM PST by Bahbah
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To: quidnunc

So where can I get one of those 7,000 lb. SUV's? My Dodge Ram 4x4 diesel longbed 3/4 ton pickup is big, but not anywhere near 7,000 lbs.


46 posted on 02/24/2005 1:12:47 PM PST by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Sam Cree
So where can I get one of those 7,000 lb. SUV's? My Dodge Ram 4x4 diesel longbed 3/4 ton pickup is big, but not anywhere near 7,000 lbs.

According to http://www.taxpayer.net/TCS/whitepapers/SUVtaxbreak.htm for tax purposes you can these vehicles for the 6,000lb tax break (6,000 pounds is actually the number Dr. Hanson is probably referring to for this somewhat notorious tax break):

Vehicles that Qualify for the SUV Tax Break
Vehicle Model

Gross
Weight (lbs)

MSRP
Economic Stimulus Pkg 2002
Jobs and Growth Act 2003
BMW
X5
6005
$53,845
$37,690
$53,845
Cadillac
Escalade
7000
$54,280
$37,880
$54,280
Escalade ESV
7200
$56,160
$38,710
$56,160
Escalade SRX
7000
$43,940
$33,335
$43,940
Chevrolet
Astro Passenger Van
6100
$27,620
$26,150
$27,620
Avalanche 1500
7000
$36,062
$29,870
$36,062
Avalanche 2500
8600
$36,545
$30,080
$36,545
Express Pass. Van 3500
9600
$30,525
$27,430
$30,525
Silverado 1500
6400
$28,600
$26,584
$28,600
Silverado 2500
8600
$31,999
$28,080
$31,999
Silverado 3500
11400
$34,200
$29,050
$34,200
Suburban 1500
7200
$41,907
$32,440
$41,907
Suburban 2500
8600
$41,280
$32,160
$41,280
Trailblazer
6400
$32,470
$28,290
$32,470
Tahoe
6800
$38,530
$30,995
$38,530
Dodge
Durango
6400
$33,280
$28,645
$33,280
Ram Cargo Van 3500
8700
$22,150
$22,150
$22,150
Ram MaxiVan 3500
8700
$22,010
$22,010
$22,010
Sprinter
8550
$32,391
$28,250
$32,391
Ram 1500
6650
$26,930
$25,849
$26,930
Ram 2500
11000
$29,160
$26,830
$29,160
Ram 3500
11000
$32,610
$28,350
$32,610
Ford
Econoline E350 Van
9500
$24,460
$24,460
$24,460
Econoline E350 Pass. Wagon
8700
$27,590
$26,140
$27,590
Excursion
8900
$43,650
$33,205
$43,650
Expedition
6650
$37,185
$30,360
$37,185
F150 Styleside
6500
$28,345
$26,470
$28,345
F250 Super Duty
9900
$28,950
$26,740
$28,950
F350 Super Duty
11,200
$30,110
$27,250
$30,110
GMC
Safari AWD Pass. Van
6100
$27,620
$26,150
$27,620
Savana Pass. Van 3500
9600
$30,525
$27,430
$30,525
Sierra 1500
6400
$31,170
$27,715
$31,170
Sierra 2500
8600
$32,161
$28,150
$32,161
Sierra 3500
11400
$33,270
$28,640
$33,270
Sierra Denali
7200
$44,255
$33,473
$44,255
Yukon Denali
7200
$44,695
$34,815
$44,695
Hummer
H1
10300
$111,845
$63,210
$107,107
H2
8600
$50,590
$36,260
$50,590
Isuzu
Ascender
6400
$34,197
$29,050
$34,197
Land Rover
Discovery
6064
$37,995
$30,720
$37,995
Range Rover
6724
$71,865
$45,620
$71,865
Lexus
GX470
6000
$45,700
$34,110
$45,700
LX470
6860
$64,800
$42,512
$64,800
Lincoln
Aviator
6210
$43,387
$33,090
$43,387
Navigator
7450
$51,960
$36,860
$51,960
Blackwood
6780
$52,500
$37,100
$52,500
Mercedes
G-Class
6834
$84,500
$51,180
$84,500
M-Class
6283
$51,970
$36,865
$51,970
Nissan
Pathfinder Armada
6800
$37,600
$30,545
$37,600
Titan
6486
$28,950
$26,738
$28,950
Porsche
Cayenne
6790
$73,165
$46,195
$73,165
Toyota
Land Cruiser
6860
$53,915
$37,725
$53,915
Sequoia
6600
$38,080
$30,755
$38,080
Tundra
6200
$23,835
$23,835
$23,835
Volkswagon
Touarag
6200
$38,415
$30,900
$38,415

47 posted on 02/24/2005 3:31:36 PM PST by snowsislander
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To: Sam Cree
"My Dodge Ram 4x4 diesel longbed 3/4 ton pickup is big, but not anywhere near 7,000 lbs."

I've got the same vehicle but with a Raven fiberglass topper...I get weighed at the dump going in and out to determine the cost of disposal...it is just over 7000 pounds empty (assuming their scale is accurate, of course)

48 posted on 02/24/2005 3:45:59 PM PST by gorush (Exterminate the Moops!)
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To: Tolik

Thanks!


49 posted on 02/24/2005 9:39:16 PM PST by lainde ( ...We are NOT European, we are American, and we have different principles!")
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To: quidnunc
This thread must set a record for deletions by the moderator!

The Hanson comment that caught my eye was:

The most critical but ignored issue in education is credentialing.

To put it another way, the most critical issue in education is the preponderance of teachers who are supposedly qualified to teach because they have a degree in "education". Kids can't learn math because their teachers don't understand math, because their teachers didn't understand math, and so on all the way back to the "new math" in the 1960s, which was a miserable effort to foist mathematical number theory on kids who needed to learn how to add, subtract, multiply, and divide.

Teachers should be subject matter experts first -- and then teachers. My best teachers were the math teachers who really dug math, the history teachers who were amateur historians, and the English teachers who knew how to perform, not just read Shakespeare.

If you get beyond the truly evil stuff, my big gripe about society is how many people are "underutilized". There are millions of people out there, some of them very close to me, who are not living up to even 10% of their potential. The working world somehow can't figure out how to make use of their capabilities. I realize that some blame rests with the individuals involved, but when I think about how much wasted potential is out there, I have to believe that there are structural reasons for it.

One such structural reason is the one that Hanson points out -- that people who would be perfectly good teachers, for example, are legally prevented from doing so. I wonder how many others there are, and whether some relatively simple changes could turn this around. Foundations across the country, including the Virginia G. Piper Trust in Phoenix, are starting to think about this in the context of the projected mass retirement of the baby boomers. Piper's Life Options Blueprint has some interesting things to say. Perhaps activities such as this will make a difference.

50 posted on 02/25/2005 1:55:37 PM PST by AZLiberty ("Insurgence" is futile. You will be eliminated.)
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