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Terri Schiavo gets another 48 hours
The Scnitz Show | 23 Feb 05

Posted on 02/23/2005 1:02:48 PM PST by Alissa

On the radio as breaking so far!


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: criminalcoverup; euthanasia; forcedexit; judicialtyranny; medicalmurder; righttodie; righttokill; righttomurder; schiavo; slipperyslope; terri; terrischiavo
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To: Dog Gone; Theodore R.

Thanks to both of you. I thought the original post was saying a new law forbidding dehydration/starvation couldn't apply to Terri because it would be ipso facto, and therefore unconstitutional. It is (IMO) unethical for Terri to be killed under a law passed after her injury (a law, IIRC, that Felos was actively involved in passing). Also, if Terri did ever mention machines/tubes-feeding tubes were not considered life support or heroic measures at that time. Do you see my problem here?


301 posted on 02/23/2005 4:16:21 PM PST by Annie03
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To: Theodore R.
"Yes, and it was endorsed by NYC's "Republican" mayor, Michael Bloomberg."

Yes, I saw that! Another example of the mayor kissing-@ss to his politically correct liberal friends. "Freedom of speech" should not be used to undermine our war effort, not to mention our many successes in Iraq and Afghanistan thanks to the U.S. and our allies, different ideas are fine and welcomed, but to demoralize our troops -- that's treasonous.
302 posted on 02/23/2005 4:16:41 PM PST by Raquel (Abortion ruins lives.)
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To: Alissa
I believe Judge Greer was just re-elected to another 6-year term by too many uninformed and/or senile Florida voters.

He sits on the bench in two counties, one being mine.

I won't even get into his cozy relationship with the Church of Scientology based in Clearwater. Yes, there is are shadowy connections between Terri's case, Judge Greer, the Clearwater Bar Association and the Church of Scientology.

Leni

303 posted on 02/23/2005 4:17:50 PM PST by MinuteGal
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To: txrangerette
Some also say his new honey wants a Catholic wedding and they can't have one unless Terri dies.

This is not a reason to kill Terri. Michael and Jodi can have the Catholic church wedding they desire, but they must obtain it in steps. First, Michael must divorce Terri, and give guardianship to her family. Her family can seek an annulment on her behalf, and would likely get it. Michael could marry Jodi in a civil ceremony until the processing is completed. Then they can have their ceremony in the Catholic church. The kids get a legal father, Jodi gets her wedding, Terri gets to live. Win/win, right?

304 posted on 02/23/2005 4:17:58 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: conservativebabe
Feeding Tube - Think "Straw"

The feeding tube has been around for centuries and is not extraordinary means to keep her alive.

305 posted on 02/23/2005 4:18:10 PM PST by grassboots.org (I Breathe - I'm Alive!)
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To: supercat

Thanks..then he's a really twisted, evil person...even if he thinks it's the right thing to do, that it's what she wanted..why fight her parents like that...their interests are pure...some people relish publcity..like Paris Hiltn, they get off on it...something's not kosher with this guy...


306 posted on 02/23/2005 4:18:57 PM PST by ken5050 (The Dem party is as dead as the NHL..)
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To: olde north church

A gastric tube is not a machine.


307 posted on 02/23/2005 4:19:26 PM PST by Annie03
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To: TAdams8591
Please tell me how STARVING someone to death supports the DEATH WITH DIGNITY argument?
I said nothing about dying with dignity. I was referrring to LIVING with dignity.
308 posted on 02/23/2005 4:20:51 PM PST by olde north church (Powerful is the hand that holds the keys to Heaven.)
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To: grassboots.org

EXACTLY!


309 posted on 02/23/2005 4:22:22 PM PST by conservativebabe
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To: monday

The anyone that is objecting is her husband, who never wants Terri to be in any shape where she can communicate what happened to her. Mike Schiavo is terrified of the truth coming out.....


310 posted on 02/23/2005 4:24:26 PM PST by Fred
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To: Ohioan from Florida

I'm kind of tired of the "catholic wedding" thing. I doubt seriously that Michael cares enough about anyone but himself to want to give Jodi her catholic wedding. This guy is void of any sympathy, empathy, and real emotions of love. I agree with someone who earlier said that he is a sociopath. A catholic wedding is probably not high on his list.

Money, now there is a movivator for someone like him.


311 posted on 02/23/2005 4:25:55 PM PST by conservativebabe
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To: olde north church
Separate her from the mechanical means which keep her alive, God will let His will be known.

for the trillionth time - she IS NOT on "mechanical means" - she breathes on her own. she is awake and alert and responds to and recognizes her parents.

Nurses have testified that she can and has swallowed food on her own - but the husband will NOT allow it - so she is fed thru a tube...and that is the ONLY intervention she needs - Everyone needs food and water to live - it is not extraordinary intervention

312 posted on 02/23/2005 4:26:30 PM PST by maine-iac7 (."...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Wallace T.; Annie03

Not to change the subject, but I understood that McCorvey never did abort that baby after all. I think she gave it up for adoption.


313 posted on 02/23/2005 4:26:49 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: conservativebabe

motivator, sorry for the typing error.


314 posted on 02/23/2005 4:26:59 PM PST by conservativebabe
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To: Ohioan from Florida

You are correct....the length of the proceedings precluded an abortion. I'm sure she is grateful for that now.


315 posted on 02/23/2005 4:28:19 PM PST by Annie03
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To: Ohioan from Florida

Yes, the McCorvey daughter apparently lives anonymous in the D-FW area. She will be 33 this year.


316 posted on 02/23/2005 4:28:26 PM PST by Theodore R. (Terri has already outlived Eleanor Centzone.)
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To: Fred

And THERE rests the bottom line of this story....we need armed angels to protect Terri in these tense days of fighting genuine evil that has managed to receive the sanction of the court due to a judge (a man who has NEVEReven BOTHERED to MEET the young life he is willing to starve and dehydrate, MURDER as it were, because he, this judge, decided to take the word of the husband over all other EVIDENCE)


317 posted on 02/23/2005 4:29:40 PM PST by Republic (Will michael shiavo and his concubine and children now preside over the murder of Terri?)
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To: Raquel

Freedom of speech" should not be used to undermine our war effort,

Yes, that's what the Supreme Court ruled in 1919 in the Schenck v. U.S. case, in which Socialist Party Secretary Charles T. Schenck had used "free speech" and "symbolic speech" rights to include urging young men to resist the WWI draft. The court said such actions were a "clear and present danger" to national security.


318 posted on 02/23/2005 4:30:24 PM PST by Theodore R. (Terri has already outlived Eleanor Centzone.)
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To: Republic

Exactly, because to meet her would be to have to put a face to the deed. It's just like abortion with Libs. They don't want to admit that it is an actual life because that would mean that they would have to be accountable for something. They hate accountability. They just want to live life as they choose, sinful or not.


319 posted on 02/23/2005 4:33:47 PM PST by conservativebabe
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To: Alissa

mentions FR.

http://www.theempirejournal.com/02230532_schiavo_case_bolstered.htm


SCHIAVO CASE BOLSTERED BY SURPRISE FILING

Special to The Empire Journal

TALLAHASSEE, FL- There is a surprising last minute filing in the Theresa Schindler-Schiavo case from an unexpected source.

The Florida Governor and other parties while they have not done everything to the public’s satisfaction in regards to saving a disabled, purposely-denied-from-rehabilitation human life they have contributed somewhat and have introduced some delays which may prove useful in giving other parties enough time to go before the courts as well as the public opinion.

Now that this matter is coming right down to the wire other parties such as Gordon Watts have come before the courts. Although, there are some perhaps who think that Mr. Watts doesn't have a right to come before the courts so far they have been proved wrong because it is the courts that have allowed Watts' filing to remain alive since October 2003. Even as the Governor's spirited case has been dismissed and denied by the courts thereby denying due process at all levels in efforts to bring to light all the facts, Mr. Watts has now made a last minute filing which may prove to be one of Theresa’s saving graces.

On the parents’ side the Gibbs law firm has just recently made arguments to the court that Theresa Schindler-Schiavo has been denied representation in court. However, Mr. Watts made similar arguments several years ago and so is continuing to petition the courts along said lines. Seeing that Theresa’s life has been put into immediate jeopardy (in regards to the threat of Judge Greer possibly lifting a 5 p.m. stay today (Wednesday) that prevents removal of her feeding device which provides food and fluids into the GI tract by simple gravity flow, Mr. Watts has made a last minute filing which it is hoped will save Theresa from the threat of being heinously and barbarically killed via dehydration/starvation. Let it be noted that it would be illegal to starve and dehydrate an animal let alone a serial killer on death row and that the whole nation would be up in arms if anyone threatened to do this to a pig or said human. To say that subjecting Theresa to starvation/dehydration violates state, federal and international laws would be an understatement. What is happening here in Florida is morally, ethically, and philosophically reprehensible and violates all standards of decency in regards to human rights and a civilized society.

Although the family’s attorneys and the Florida Governor have made some good legal arguments only Mr. Watts has petitioned the court concerning Theresa’s illegal detention at the Hospice of the Florida Suncoast, Inc. based on the fact that she is not terminally ill and it is illegal according to state and federal laws for her to be placed into and detained in hospice. Mr. Watts has used habeas corpus as the vehicle to bring this argument. As it stands Theresa has been illegally detained at Hospice Woodside for close to 5 years.

Those who have done research on the internet have found that the Hospice of the Florida Suncoast, Inc. and a bioethicist / end-of-life / right-to-die network (Partnership for End-of-Life Care) from Miami University headed by Ken Goodman and others from Nova Southeastern University Shepard Broad Law Center (Kathy Cerminara and Michael Masinter, so-called disability, right-to-die, advocates with connections to the ACLU) has firmly entrenched itself with the Florida Office of Elder Affairs, the recently scandal-ridden Department of Health, and on up to the Department of Veterans Affairs. Miami University ethics head Ken Goodman did a national interview on PBS in November of 2003 in which he said that Theresa Schiavo was permanently unconscious for over 13 years and had no brain. The evidence shown in videos on national television news networks and across the internet as well as regular visits in-person visits by Terri’s parents, siblings, their attorneys and priests prove otherwise. To their shame the judges and governor have failed to meet with Theresa. There is also evidence that Michael Schiavo suppressed a bone scan in which he may be responsible for 13 fractures sustained by Theresa Schiavo which included a broken femur and a broken back which dated to the time of the “incident” which occurred on February 25, 1990. Michael became aware of this X-Ray bone scan which was performed on Theresa in March of 1991 for a closed head injury yet he failed to bring in the authorities. Any other person would have gone ballistic upon finding out the results of such a bone scan. This implicates Michael Schiavo as having some sort of culpability for Theresa’s original “accident”.

On another note, outside of the court arena, there is a growing effort by persons coming from many and various backgrounds in the realm of internet blogs which has grown to over 150 blogs seeking to providing factual information in this case which the mainstream media refuses to address or which the mainstream media continuously misrepresents. Another notable internet site called FreeRepublic.com also has been at the forefront of efforts by others to get justice for Theresa Schindler-Schiavo since at least August of 2003 and has served as another meeting place for people of diverse backgrounds and beliefs to meet, exchange information and coordinate efforts to wake up not only the mainstream press but to also bring wider attention in the public domain to the her plight and the plight of other disabled and vulnerable people. A few notable internet news sites which have been especially good at getting factual information out in regards to Theresa’s plight are http://worldnetdaily.com and the up-and-coming http://www.theempirejournal.com from New York. In the blogging effort the URL for the main blog under which all the others 150+ blogs are joined is http://www.blogsforterri.com/ and there is of course http://www.terrisfight.org

In conclusion it is hoped that the combined team efforts of many parties will bear fruit and ultimately get justice for the disabled and vulnerable of the State of Florida and our nation, including Theresa Schindler-Schiavo. This is a call for all media outlets and people of great humanity who care to help avert Theresa’s murder, to demand that she be given protective custody and that the perpetrators who have been attempting her murder be investigated. The Florida Governor is the Chief Law Enforcement Officer of the State of Florida as well as the head of Department and Children and Families and he needs to bring the abuse of Theresa to a halt. Others are calling for the intervention of the President and the Pope.

A copy of Mr. Watts’ filing can be found at:

http://www.eeng.net/eeng/MotionExpediteSC03-2420.doc

If there are questions or comments Mr. Watts can be contacted at: 863-688-9880 / or electronically at gww1210@aol.com




320 posted on 02/23/2005 4:34:10 PM PST by Ellesu
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