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Terri Schiavo - Won't Someone Help?
The National Ledger ^ | Feb 22, 2005 | L.A. Morris

Posted on 02/22/2005 9:41:17 AM PST by AliVeritas

Sixth Circuit Court Judge George Greer ruled late Monday afternoon that George Felos and Michael Schiavo cannot implement their stated plan to withdraw the gastric feeding tube of Terri Schindler-Schiavo until a hearing is held on Weds, Feb 23 to determine if the stay in effect from Greer's 2000 death order should remain in place while her parents, Mary and Robert Schindler Sr., continue with their legal options in trying to keep her alive.

The Schindlers had hoped to convince the court that starving Terri to death would violate her religious liberties. As a Catholic, the Schindlers contend Terri would not want to have her life ended.

If anyone ever deserved a second chance, it's Terri Schiavo, the central figure in a battle for the rights of the handicapped. She has no idea of the controversy swirling about her, and has been unaware of the fight for her life since she collapsed of a potassium deficiency in 1990. But regardless of the why and how, Terri's collapse starved her brain of oxygen, and she has never been mentally or physically revived past a semi-vegetative state.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalledger.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: euthanasia; schiavo; terrischiavo
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To: eeevil conservative

Not as far as I've seen; your posts seem reasonable and informative to me.


81 posted on 02/22/2005 12:04:00 PM PST by Howlin (Free the Eason Jordan Tape!!!)
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To: Bigh4u2

Sorry!

Willing to pay....


82 posted on 02/22/2005 12:04:04 PM PST by Bigh4u2
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To: eeevil conservative

Amen. Miracles DO happen. Believe, believe, believe!!!!


83 posted on 02/22/2005 12:04:26 PM PST by cubreporter (U)
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To: eeevil conservative

Amen. Miracles DO happen. Believe, believe, believe!!!!


84 posted on 02/22/2005 12:04:27 PM PST by cubreporter (U)
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To: daylate-dollarshort
These people disagree.

Dr. William Hammesfahr
Dr. Alexander Gimon
Dr. Jacob Greene
Dr. Richard Neubauer
Dr. William Russell
Dr. Jay Carpenter
Dr. James Avery
Dr. John D. Young
Dr. William Maxfield
Sarah Green Mele – Speech Pathologist
Myra Stinson – Speech Pathologist

85 posted on 02/22/2005 12:05:14 PM PST by DJ MacWoW ("Are you cops? FBI" bad guy, "I'm currently unemployed" Tony Almeida of 24)
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To: daylate-dollarshort

So what?

Brain damage is not a reason to murder someone.


86 posted on 02/22/2005 12:05:34 PM PST by Politicalmom (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.")
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To: DJ MacWoW

Which of these has actually examined Terri???


87 posted on 02/22/2005 12:06:50 PM PST by daylate-dollarshort (s/v Musashi I)
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To: Politicalmom

If the cerebral cortex is destroyed, there is no one there to destroy.


88 posted on 02/22/2005 12:07:53 PM PST by daylate-dollarshort (s/v Musashi I)
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To: Howlin

LOL!

thanks


89 posted on 02/22/2005 12:08:44 PM PST by eeevil conservative (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for a good man to do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: daylate-dollarshort

no one there my but!

Her name is Terri.

She smiles, she cries, she luaghs- she even gets ticked if they turn the radio off. She has GIANED vocabulary even though he denies her therapy.


90 posted on 02/22/2005 12:13:16 PM PST by eeevil conservative (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for a good man to do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: Howlin

Well - between this thread and the Jim Rob - Moderator Question thread, I've been stuck at this computer instead of doing something useful. A pretty day and my dogs need to be walked.

I did get a new tagline though thanks to a relative new poster - SlowBoat407. He sure reminds me of Laz.


91 posted on 02/22/2005 12:18:09 PM PST by ClancyJ (Sometimes we're a think tank, and sometimes we're just a tank ! (SlowBoat407))
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To: beckysueb

What great news. I had given up hope.

About time our justice system does not abet murder of a wife unable to protect herself.


92 posted on 02/22/2005 12:19:43 PM PST by ClancyJ (Sometimes we're a think tank, and sometimes we're just a tank ! (SlowBoat407))
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To: daylate-dollarshort

Recently, another presumed “brain-dead” woman made news in Kansas. In a coma after becoming the victim of a drunk driver, Sarah Scantlin snapped out of a twenty year silence and began to speak. Memories are now coming back to her. By legal definition, Miss Scantlin’s life is valid. Yesterday, it was not. Was she ever in a persistent vegetative state, or PVS? She’d respond to questions by blinking once for no, twice for yes, but since she couldn’t speak no one was ever sure she understood the questions.


also:


Dr. Lieberman concludes: “He (Michael) should most definitely be investigated as the perpetrator of the ‘incident’ that caused Terri’s collapse and her current condition.”


93 posted on 02/22/2005 12:19:54 PM PST by eeevil conservative (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for a good man to do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: eeevil conservative
no one there my but! Her name is Terri. She smiles, she cries, she laughs she even gets ticked if they turn the radio off. She has GIANED vocabulary even though he denies her therapy.

And you've seen these things; witnessed them with your own eyes? Seen them in person? Or have you been told these things? Or have you witnessed heavily edited tapes? Let me guess.

Not so long ago a few of the more adamant and prolific posters to these threads, claimed that Terri was actively communication with nursing staff through eye-blinks and eye-shifting. They announced that they had sworn witnesses and further that these witnessed were going to come forward in the very near future.

Never ever happened. No eye-communication whatsoever. No blinking. No rapid eye shifting. Nothing. Further, there were no witnesses nor experts willing to testify to this miracle. Nothing. Yet the Terri advocates brow beat, belittled and berated those who would question their "facts".

Nothing has changed.

94 posted on 02/22/2005 12:28:14 PM PST by daylate-dollarshort (s/v Musashi I)
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To: Howlin

How some can't see the similarity to abortion is beyond me.


95 posted on 02/22/2005 12:30:38 PM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: Bikers4Bush

I just cannot believe this man is making all these decisions without having seen this woman.


96 posted on 02/22/2005 12:32:08 PM PST by Howlin (Free the Eason Jordan Tape!!!)
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To: daylate-dollarshort

"Or have you witnessed heavily edited tapes? "

And you have proof of this?


97 posted on 02/22/2005 12:34:36 PM PST by Bigh4u2
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To: eeevil conservative
"Recently, another presumed “brain-dead” woman made news in Kansas. In a coma after becoming the victim of a drunk driver, Sarah Scantlin snapped out of a twenty year silence and began to speak. Memories are now coming back to her. By legal definition, Miss Scantlin’s life is valid. Yesterday, it was not. Was she ever in a persistent vegetative state, or PVS? She’d respond to questions by blinking once for no, twice for yes, but since she couldn’t speak no one was ever sure she understood the questions."

Desparate are we?

Sarah was never called "brain-dead, nor was she ever described as being in a "persistent vegetative state". She was, as stated, in a coma. There is a vast difference.

Furthermore, Ms. Scantlin was able to communicate with the medical staff with eye blinks. "One for yes two for no"

As to the investigation, the cause of Terri's mishap has been determined by a trial Court and jury, or are all of those jury members part of the conspiracy to murder Terri too?

98 posted on 02/22/2005 12:36:38 PM PST by daylate-dollarshort (s/v Musashi I)
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To: daylate-dollarshort

You are the one that doesn't know the facts....

I have spent the last 5 days researching and posting on them on at my blog--- you have been given the links to the other places that do provide affidavits of people, You are the one that has NOT done your homework..

I can't be responsible for what anyone else says or posts here..... In fact- I have seen things here that I would never consider credible, so I understand you asking...

But I certainly would want to be doing some research and homework BEFORE I ever aligned myself with supporting a cheating husband the right to starve his wife to death.

If my 4 yr old daughter were in the EXACT situation- I would be crucified by the media.

Imagine me begging the courts to give me $$$$$ so I could get her the therapy and care she needed, and then the day I get the check- I stop all therapy to her.... Then suddenly I get some religion that says "Hmmmmm, I don't believe in life support, stop feeding her...."

If food is considered life support, I wonder how many parents in prison for starving and neglecting to feed their kids will be lining up in courts for appeals.....


99 posted on 02/22/2005 12:38:08 PM PST by eeevil conservative (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for a good man to do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: Howlin

Agreed. That's slightly less sickening than the fact that Schiavo is pushing for it to happen. Common sense would dictate that you go and see for yourself what the situation is before granting a request like this.


100 posted on 02/22/2005 12:40:12 PM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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