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Activist Calls for Pressure on Baptist Judge in Right-to-Die Case
Ethics Daily ^ | 02-17-05 | Bob Allen

Posted on 02/21/2005 5:26:14 AM PST by tutstar

The founder of an anti-abortion group is rallying support for efforts to prevent removal of a feeding tube that would end a brain-damaged Florida woman’s life by urging public pressure on a Southern Baptist judge who has handled most of the legal matters in her case.

Operation Rescue founder Randall Terry described “several points of attack” to mobilize public opinion to keep Terri Schiavo alive, now that her parents have lost their main legal challenges to prevent her husband, Michael Schiavo, from removing the tube that has kept his wife alive artificially since 1990.

Terry said one “place where Terri’s life can be saved,” according to an article in the Philadelphia Inquirer, is for people to put pressure on the Judge George W. Greer of Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Court.

“He’s a Southern Baptist,” Terry said. “It’s against Southern Baptist dogma to starve people.”

According to the Florida Baptist Witness, Greer is a member of Calvary Baptist Church in Clearwater, Fla., a 5,000-member congregation aligned with the Southern Baptist Convention.

Greer has been criticized for allowing Michael Schiavo to remain as his wife’s guardian and for a 2000 order to remove Terri Schiavo’s feeding tube. The tube was removed briefly in 2003 but reinserted after the Florida Legislature passed a law aimed at prolonging her life.

The U.S. Supreme Court in January declined to review a Florida Supreme Court ruling striking down “Terri’s Law,” clearing the way—barring further court orders--for her husband to allow his wife to die, which he says is what she would have wanted.

Her parents, Robert and Mary Schindler, continue to appeal to both courts and the public to block the judge’s order to remove the tube, which they say would cause their 41-year-old daughter to die from starvation and dehydration.

The Schindlers disagree with Terri’s diagnosis as being in a persistent vegetative state and have put video on a Web site they claim attests that she is conscious. They say Michael Schiavo has a conflict of interest because he now lives and has two children with another woman.

Terry Schiavo in 1990 suffered severe brain damage caused by lack of oxygen after her heart stopped beating due to a rare medical condition.

Her husband was appointed her legal guardian in June 1990, without objection from her parents. They had a falling out with Michael Schiavo over Terri’s course of therapy in 1993.

In 1998 Schiavo petitioned a court to remove his wife's feeding tube. The case went to trial early in 2000.

Judge Greer ordered removal of the tube, which doctors said would cause her death in seven to 14 days, prompting the first of a series of appeals by the Schindlers.

In an interview with the Florida Baptist Witness last August, Greer defended himself against attacks from pro-life advocates, including a critical editorial in the state Southern Baptist newspaper itself.

“My job is to follow the law: not to agree with the law, but to follow it,” Greer said. He told the paper his conscience is not bothered, even when he disagrees with the law.

“That’s how our system operates,” he said. “At my level, I just do what the law tells me to do. That’s what I’m supposed to do. That’s my oath.”

To do otherwise, Greer said, would be judicial activism and make him “one of those activist judges that the conservatives think are so bad.”

The Schiavo case prompted fierce debate between groups that oppose “euthanasia” and others who defend a “right to die.” Experts who specialize in end-of-life issues say it illustrates the importance of talking about living will and related issues before a tragedy happens.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; Philosophy; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: euthanasia; florida; flroida; georgegreer; judicialcorruption; michaelschiavo; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo
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http://www.floridabaptistwitness.com/2999.article

Greer, who said he was is active member of the church, but does not attend services regularly, or serve in any ministry capacity, said he knew Govan had joined the church this year.

1 posted on 02/21/2005 5:26:17 AM PST by tutstar
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To: cyn; Ohioan from Florida; amdgmary; pc93; floriduh voter; FL_engineer; Concerned

My apologies for pinging those of you already on Ohioan's ping list. Not sure if OFF is online yet.

Therein post #1 lies root of part of the problem.

Look how Greer says he is an "active" church member, but doesn't attend services regularly!
Can't be both at the same time!!


He must be a CEO!


2 posted on 02/21/2005 5:28:39 AM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: floriduh voter; cyn; pc93; amdgmary; All

http://www.calvarybaptist.org/

Freepers, do what you do best!


3 posted on 02/21/2005 5:30:41 AM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: tutstar

Not only is he a RINO, he's a CINO (Christian in name only). I wouldn't want to stand before God one day if I was this creep.


4 posted on 02/21/2005 5:37:56 AM PST by Freepertwo
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To: tutstar

Except for a prior oath was never properly filed in 1998?


5 posted on 02/21/2005 5:46:17 AM PST by pc93
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To: Freepertwo

I'm telling you! He has no clue and no money to buy a vowel!


6 posted on 02/21/2005 5:56:25 AM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: pc93

He thinks he is doing the right thing.

His mind is warped!


7 posted on 02/21/2005 5:59:40 AM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: tutstar

life


8 posted on 02/21/2005 6:13:57 AM PST by PGalt
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To: tutstar; narses
If His Dishonor, Greer, thinks he is somehow morally bound by his oath to violate the laws of God aka the Natural Law, then he should never have taken his oath in the first place and should immediately resign. This situation is what the First Commandment is all about. He is placing the false god of the essentially godless laws (at least as he sees them) before the one true God. He is willing to murder in his extreme anti-God view.

Greer is essentially saying that his oath before God requires him to break God's laws by murdering Terri Schiavo. We are living in a madhouse in regard to law ever since Roe vs. Wade, Griswold vs. Connecticut and very probably long before that.

9 posted on 02/21/2005 6:27:20 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk

WEll

http://www.theempirejournal.com/judges_in_schiavo_case_maynot_have_qualified_for_Office.htm

Judge Greer did not file the required oath as prescribed by Florida law, nor did he properly file the paperwork to qualify for the election.

He does what he wants without repercussion.


10 posted on 02/21/2005 6:34:59 AM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: tutstar
Father Frank Pavone was interviewed on EWTN, broadcast this weekend, and he says he visited Terry with her parents on Feb 6th 2005. He said 2 things that surprised me (NEW EVIDENCE that MUST be heard by the court)

There is another EWTN show (one hour long) interview with Bob Schindler and lawyer Gibb, at the top of the hour, about 25 min from now




             
11 posted on 02/21/2005 6:35:11 AM PST by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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To: tutstar; NYer; sionnsar

<< Activist Calls for Pressure on Baptist Judge in Right-to-Die Case >>

How in Hell's name does a bloody headline writer twist "right-to-die" from the more-than-a-decade-long obsessive-compulsive insistence of this poor lady's murderous "spouse" that he be entitled to legally murder her -- and/or, perhaps, to finising off her murder?

The deviates are without a doubt jack-hammering at Judeo-Christian/Western Civilization's walls.


12 posted on 02/21/2005 6:36:45 AM PST by Brian Allen (I fly and can therefore be envious of no man -- Per Ardua ad Astra!)
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To: Brian Allen
How in Hell's name does a bloody headline writer twist "right-to-die" from the more-than-a-decade-long obsessive-compulsive insistence of this poor lady's murderous "spouse" that he be entitled to legally murder her -- and/or, perhaps, to finising off her murder?

Perhaps this tells us something about the ironically titled "Ethics Today."

13 posted on 02/21/2005 6:55:49 AM PST by sionnsar († trad-anglican.faithweb.com † || Iran Azadi || This part of this tagline is deliberately not blank.)
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To: sionnsar

Oops. That's "Daily." Never mind...


14 posted on 02/21/2005 6:56:19 AM PST by sionnsar († trad-anglican.faithweb.com † || Iran Azadi || This part of this tagline is deliberately not blank.)
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To: sionnsar

Dear Lord, the PoMo-babbling moral-relativist deviants are jack-hammering at Judeo-Christian/Western/Human Civilization's walls -- please continue to bless and protect our beloved fraternal republic?

Thank you, Dear Lord -- Amen!


15 posted on 02/21/2005 7:08:14 AM PST by Brian Allen (I fly and can therefore be envious of no man -- Per Ardua ad Astra!)
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To: sionnsar; Brian Allen

Euthanasia cloaked. The hemlocks accomplished a lot for their cause with a little PR.

type hemlock.org into your browser url field and see what comes up...


16 posted on 02/21/2005 7:13:20 AM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: tutstar; sionnsar

<< Euthanasia cloaked. >>

Euthanasia?

I believe you're euphamizing what this poor lady's execrable "spouse" is really up to -- which is spelt M-U-R-D-E-R -- murder!

At which act I shouldn't be surprised to learn, given his overt behavior, he has likely been engaged from immediately before said beautiful lady was caused to lapse into her present state!


17 posted on 02/21/2005 7:32:08 AM PST by Brian Allen (I fly and can therefore be envious of no man -- Per Ardua ad Astra!)
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To: Brian Allen


It's definitely murder.

Euthanasia is murder!


18 posted on 02/21/2005 7:47:14 AM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: Brian Allen

Not good...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1333205/posts?page=2253#2253


19 posted on 02/21/2005 7:48:09 AM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: tutstar; floriduh voter; phenn; cyn; FreepinforTerri; kimmie7; Pegita; windchime; Deo volente; ...

My apologies, too, to those of you who are pinged more than once!

Terri ping! If anyone would like to be added to or removed from my Terri ping list, please let me know by FReepmail!


20 posted on 02/21/2005 8:06:09 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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