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1 posted on 02/15/2005 12:47:59 PM PST by DBeers
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2 posted on 02/15/2005 12:49:02 PM PST by DBeers
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Kudos to Joe Glover for spotting this farce.


3 posted on 02/15/2005 12:50:12 PM PST by Jaysun (Nefarious deeds for hire.)
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However, Glover did some research of his own, and discovered that Patterson is a lesbian in a relationship with a female partner, and the couple has three children between them. The pro-family advocate said Patterson has an obvious agenda and is using her title as a psychologist to put forth one-sided propaganda.
So if a Christian does a report on church-going families, it's "obvious propaganda"? He should stick to contesting the assertions she makes.

-Eric

4 posted on 02/15/2005 12:50:46 PM PST by E Rocc (Leftists look at liberty the way Christians look at sin.)
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Pro-Homosexual Study Authored by Lesbian

I AM SHOCKED and APPALLED!

5 posted on 02/15/2005 12:51:44 PM PST by frogjerk
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6 posted on 02/15/2005 12:54:41 PM PST by NYer ("The Eastern Churches are the Treasures of the Catholic Church" - Pope John XXIII)
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Pro-Homosexual Study Authored by Lesbian

And stay tuned for our next shocking relevation, "Water is Wet!"

11 posted on 02/15/2005 12:59:27 PM PST by fiercebunny ("Behind me and before me is God and I have no fears. ")
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One of those questions that always gets asked is, 'What are these kids [raised in same-sex families] going to be?' I'm bothered by that question," she said, adding that "it's a homophobic question, because it doesn't matter" if a child turns out to be homosexual. <<

One small, sad fact: Children whose parents smoke are at high risk to become smokers themselves (at least that is the propoganda I was taught).

Stands to reason if a childs parents are homos - a high percentage of children are doomed to this risky lifestyle choice.


12 posted on 02/15/2005 12:59:51 PM PST by hushpad (If you're going to carry brass balls, at least have the sense keep them polished.)
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For example, in a panel discussion at Tufts University, Dr. Ellen Perrin, professor of pediatrics at the Tufts-New England Medical Center, said the matter was not even a valid question.

Implied, but unsaid, is thar Dr. Perrin is also probably a lesbian herself; It would be impossible for a scientific researcher to make the statement that "... it doesn't matter" whether the children turnout gay or not, since that is an opinion, not science.

13 posted on 02/15/2005 1:00:22 PM PST by Publius6961
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Pro-Homosexual Study Authored by Lesbian

In other breaking news, bear craps in woods....

14 posted on 02/15/2005 1:01:55 PM PST by freebilly (I am The Thread Killer! DO NOT REPLY!)
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(AgapePress) - Raising questions about a conflict of interests, a pro-family leader claims that the co-author of a 2002 study of the children of homosexual couples is not a researcher but a propagandist
The whole Homo/Les coming out movement is nothing but a front for "POPULATION CONTROL" and "DESTABLIZATION OF SOCIETY" toward the ends of overthrowing the U.S.A and other nations.
16 posted on 02/15/2005 1:06:10 PM PST by clearsight
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Seems to me that only half the story is being reported here. The other issue is who is funding these studies; who is funding people like this to write books with this agenda? This woman now makes some news... but perhaps now under the radar are other studies and books funded by the same organizations
that funded this one. Other studies and books undermining the fabric of society and promoting a narrow agenda.


18 posted on 02/15/2005 1:14:18 PM PST by C210N
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Patterson is naught but a pseudo-scientist who begins with a lie, wraps it in a less than half-truth, enlarges it with hyperbole and counteroffensive accusations cloaked in the chiding tones of sneering elitist scholarly dismissal.

The colossal arrogance of people so enamoured of their own (fools) wisdom just amazes and affronts me. Sodom and Gomorrah were obliterated for far less than such behaviour as these deviants practise today.

Nineveh was guilty of similar wickedness, but when Jonah, skin bleached by the digestive juices of the whale's belly, crawled ashore and preached repentence, the largest revival of the Bible occured. Every person of that reprobate city from King to stable boy was stung by their conscience and humbled themselves in sackcloth and ashes, ashamed for their great evil. God spared them in His mercy, seeing the contrition of their hearts.

These folk today are so hard-hearted and stiff-necked, that they are mostly unreachable, having become godlike in their own minds. It is not enough for them to still dissenting voices, now they seek the outright endorsement of social and political establishments. Woe be unto them! And to many of us who quietly 'tolerate' their creeping agenda.


21 posted on 02/15/2005 1:22:33 PM PST by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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Let the Internet now once again ferociously debunk yet another liberal fraud.


23 posted on 02/15/2005 1:26:38 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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There seems to be a pattern in the Lesbian community.

A number of them are in the field of Psychiatry. They therefore are in a position of authority when counseling other women. Perhaps a Psychiatrist's office is a good place for them to get hooked up.

24 posted on 02/15/2005 1:32:13 PM PST by N. Theknow
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BTTT


Homosexual Agenda: Categorical Index of Links (Version 1.1)


What We Can Do To Help Defeat the "Gay" Agenda


Myth and Reality about Homosexuality--Sexual Orientation Section, Guide to Family Issues"

25 posted on 02/15/2005 1:36:49 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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Perrin was instrumental in getting the American Academy of Pediatrics to change its policy to favor same-sex families.


Documentation posted here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1026551/posts?page=284#284

26 posted on 02/15/2005 1:41:11 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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Shazam!

Surprise surprise surprise!


32 posted on 02/15/2005 2:38:05 PM PST by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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Manipulation of laws is what family law lawyers specializing in homosexuals adopting children do.

For example, they will have ONE adopt the child then the sex partner is granted the adoption.

27 states eith FORBID or restrict such adoptions.

Does anyone have a link to the new zeland study which was more comprehensive?


37 posted on 02/15/2005 3:39:32 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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Raising questions about a conflict of interests, a pro-family leader claims that the co-author of a 2002 study of the children of homosexual couples is not a researcher but a propagandist.

Anti-gay group run by heterosexual

Charging a conflict of interest, homosexuals accused Agape Press of being run by heterosexuals to promote their own pro-heterosexual agenda.

"The information disseminated by Agape Press is not to be trusted because the men who work for it put their penises in vaginas and are just looking to justify their lifestyle choice" said homosexual activist Leslie Bian.

42 posted on 02/15/2005 7:31:08 PM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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Here's some basic info on the STUDY, from the UVa web site:

[Patterson] and her colleagues based their research on a sample of 12- to 18-year-old adolescents from 88 families. The sample was drawn from a large national survey of American adolescents, the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health. Forty-four of the study participants were parented by same-sex female couples and 44 were parented by opposite-sex couples. The two groups were matched by demographic characteristics such as age, income levels, social situations and other factors — with the exception of family type — to ensure the two groups were comparable.

On measures of their psychosocial adjustment and school results, such as grades and test scores, both groups had similar outcomes, and their adjustment was not affected by the type of family — whether same sex or opposite sex parents.

Because data for this study was drawn from those collected for a large national survey, the researchers encountered important advantages, Patterson said. First, participating families came from various parts of the United States, instead of from a single geographical area, as in most previous research. Second, the sample included participants from different racial and socioeconomic groups, and was more diverse than samples in most previous studies. Finally, because the data were originally collected for other reasons, the possibility of bias was minimized.

These strengths, Patterson said, add to confidence in the main findings that the quality of relationships within families are more important for adolescent development than whether parents have same-sex or opposite-sex partners.

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Now, I'm not ready to leap up and support the findings (which I believe are probably a little subjective, given that this is sociology and there are a lot of variables to evaluate when considering measures of their "psychosocial adjustment" and "school results"), but I'd have to find out more to this study to figure out if it WAS screwed up somehow. It certainly doesn't sound it in the UVa PR piece...but then, it's a Wahoo PR piece.

She's also written this 369 page whopper.

Interesting position paper on the issue by a group with a pro-hetero bent...though it does not seem to review this study.

My only experience with a kid like this (i.e., one raised by two same-sex parents) is that the little guy was weirder than a grits-eatin' Yankee. Anecdotal evidence proves nothing, of course, but it predisposes me to want to see the methodology before I buy this or any other "same-sex kids are okay" study.

44 posted on 02/15/2005 10:51:06 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (NO BLOOD FOR CHOCOLATE! Get the UN-ignoring, unilateralist Frogs out of Ivory Coast!)
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