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Scandal Puts Focus On Role of Bloggers (WaPo on FR, NCPAC and MD4Bush)
Washington Post ^ | 02/11/05 | David Snyder and Matthew Mosk

Posted on 02/10/2005 10:41:44 PM PST by conservative in nyc

The Web site began as a sort of Internet boutique for like-minded conservatives and libertarians, suspicious of federal power and angry at President Bill Clinton.

Started in 1997 by a reclusive California conservative, freerepublic.com saw its membership blossom with Clinton's impeachment and the election of George W. Bush. Attention to the site reached a zenith last fall, when a "freeper" -- the group's moniker for its bloggers -- first discussed flaws in documents CBS News used in a report critical of Bush's National Guard service.

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One participant working under the handle MD4BUSH, whose identity is unknown, drew Steffen into a private conversation and appeared to coax him to share more details about his role in spreading the rumor. Copies of those chat room e-mails were later provided to The Washington Post.

The Oct. 18 conversation began with MD4BUSH complimenting Steffen and saying how obvious it was that the rumors about the mayor were true. Steffen, writing under the name NCPAC, replied:

"I don't look for the MO'M [O'Malley] story to hit for a little bit yet. . . . However, a lot of what everyone knows about MO'M is because of work that has occurred. It's been a wild ride."

MD4BUSH later probed further:

"Your saying that my dentist knows [about the rumors] because of work you did? Wow, I must say, I'm impressed. I mean really, everyone knows -- how did that happen?"

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Free Republic; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: compost; ecpa; freerepublic; gannon; kristinn; md4bush; media; mediabias; msm; ncpac; odoherty; omalley; ryanodoherty
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To: CyberAnt
I am going to be much more cautions what I say to screen names that I am not familiar with.

It wouldn't be a bad idea to be cautious with screen names you are familiar with, at least to some extent. How difficult would it be for the enterprising "journalist" to spend a year or two visiting FR occasionally and posting, developing relationships?

301 posted on 02/11/2005 2:46:54 AM PST by alnick (Rice 2005: We've only just begun to see what Freedom can achieve.)
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To: conservative in nyc; bad company; Alamo-Girl; onyx; ALOHA RONNIE; SpookBrat; Republican Wildcat; ...
FreeRepublic busting Dan Rather and Freeper NCPAC mentioned.

And the WP "responsibly" burying stories is okay, apparently.

Must mean that FR is "really bad" for them, ha!

Scandal Puts Focus On Role of Bloggers
(WaPo on FR and NCPAC)

Excerpt:

The blogosphere "is the international waters of the Internet age -- a lawless area where anything goes," said Matthew Felling, media director for the nonpartisan Center for Media and Public Affairs. "Sometimes that means information the quote-unquote mainstream media are keeping you from, and sometimes that means rumors the mainstream media responsibly ignores."


Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my General Interest ping list!. . .don't be shy.


302 posted on 02/11/2005 2:50:35 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: bad company
Done! Just hit my General Interest list. Thanks.

303 posted on 02/11/2005 2:51:24 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: conservative in nyc
Was this printed in the comic section of their fish wrapper?

The Jayson Blair Slimes, The Washington Compost, The Atlanta Constipation, Danny Blather, Mr. Potatoehead (Timmy Russert), George Step-on-the-populace, Barbara WaWA, etc. were distorting the scene long before the Internet gained wide acceptability.

The Internet is more popular than these Goebelite Avenues of the Democrap Party because many people don't trust them.
304 posted on 02/11/2005 2:52:29 AM PST by leprechaun9
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To: MEG33

By the way, check out the message on this fraud's FR profile page:

"I hate John Kerry and I'm sick of his lies. This is the most important election in history and George bush must win. If not the Islamic Terrorists will win, there will be more attacks on the states."

http://www.freerepublic.com/~md4bush/


305 posted on 02/11/2005 2:53:09 AM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: MeekOneGOP
Obviously the Dan Rather/Buckhead episode shook them up.

They seem to have put a bit of time into checking out the non-liberal blogosphere.

306 posted on 02/11/2005 2:53:12 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Lurker
The WaPo is populated entirely by half-wits who wouldn't know a blog from a forum if they both introduced themselves and then bit them on their pompous asses.

I'll call them in the morning and let them know. Some copy editor is obvious not well informed.

307 posted on 02/11/2005 2:54:12 AM PST by BJungNan (Please stand by while I think up a new one...)
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To: kcvl; All

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1340936/posts
Web has changed the shape of 'reporting' (Balt Sun Lurking; FR and NCPAC mentioned)


308 posted on 02/11/2005 2:54:16 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Not likely, for the social club socialists, any rubbing of elbows with the hoi poloi just ends up just reinforcing the mindset that they are the ones who should be in charge.

Most of the conservatives I know are real salt of the earth types, a little coarse, but people who would literally give you the shirt off their backs if you were in honest need. To the leftists, thats just a sign that the red staters are uneducated rednecks who don't know how to look after their own best interests.

You can not educate these people. If they are so confused about the world as to believe the fantasies they are printing, they are a lost cause. You can hope for a miraculous 'Coming to Jesus' moment, but it's not likely.
309 posted on 02/11/2005 2:54:45 AM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Children classics updated for Islam, "If you're happy and you know it, go Kaboom!")
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To: alnick
It's entirely possible that MD4BUSH is with WaPo.

That is dubious speculation, and I doubt that the Washington Post would engage in such tactics. It's more likely that the e-mail messages were illegally intercepted and that a criminal violation of the Electronic Communications Privacy Act occurred.

The best way to find out is to file a lawsuit against the John Doe who apparently violated the ECPA and issue the subpoenas.

Schedule a sworn deposition from "MD4Bush" and ask him if he is the same person involved in the original communications, and is the same person who posted a couple of days ago, and who might have been in a position to access those messages without his knowledge, and whether or not he authorized the release of the private messages to any third parties, and what was the identity of those third parties, and whether those third parties passed the private messages to others, etc.

There are a bunch of questions that MD4Bush needs to answer, and a good attorney will only need a few hours with him to obtain his statement. Then things can proceed from there.

310 posted on 02/11/2005 2:57:29 AM PST by HAL9000
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To: leadhead

Of course there is a connection. But it'll never be exposed without conservative news media that is both print and tv. Fox isn't conservative--it's actually pretty left in news, while conservative in commentary--and there aren't many conservative papers besides the Manchester Union-Leader left.


311 posted on 02/11/2005 2:58:05 AM PST by LibertarianInExile (NO BLOOD FOR CHOCOLATE! Get the UN-ignoring, unilateralist Frogs out of Ivory Coast!)
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To: conservative in nyc

Bingo!


312 posted on 02/11/2005 3:00:20 AM PST by BunnySlippers (When it comes to humility, I'm the greatest! - Bullwinkle J. Moose)
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To: Dianna
The papers waited until they could find a way to sting the GOP with it. And it was only possible because the "media" ignored the story in the first placeI think they were going for a trifecta: Erlich, FR and....O'Malley.

I think the BS is committed to Duncan and O'Malley is going to get it in the back regularly from them.(stop whatever you're thinking!)

WaPo got a story, BS got a lob shot to slam everyone with.

313 posted on 02/11/2005 3:00:58 AM PST by leadhead (God bless America...a Free press is worth what you pay for it)
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To: Jim Robinson

GRRRRR..I hate duplicity.


314 posted on 02/11/2005 3:05:10 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: HAL9000
Any techies here want to explain the various methods that these emails could have been intercepted? (This is a "Buckhead" opportunity).

This is a whale of story for anyone who can nail the guilty party.

315 posted on 02/11/2005 3:08:04 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

I'll just bet someone is at work on that.


316 posted on 02/11/2005 3:09:55 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: MeekOneGOP
"Sometimes that means information the quote-unquote mainstream media are keeping you from, and sometimes that means rumors the mainstream media responsibly ignores."


317 posted on 02/11/2005 3:10:06 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

Bingo


318 posted on 02/11/2005 3:11:51 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: MJY1288
"They are after Free Republic,"

You're exactly right -- they'd love to get rid of us, I'm sure.

Carolyn

319 posted on 02/11/2005 3:12:33 AM PST by CDHart (The world has become a lunatic asylum and the lunatics are in charge.)
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To: leprechaun9

It's on page B01.


320 posted on 02/11/2005 3:18:24 AM PST by conservative in nyc
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