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Scientists find missing link between whale and its closest relative, the hippo
UC Berkeley News ^ | 24 January 2005 | Robert Sanders, Media Relations

Posted on 02/08/2005 3:50:43 AM PST by PatrickHenry

A group of four-footed mammals that flourished worldwide for 40 million years and then died out in the ice ages is the missing link between the whale and its not-so-obvious nearest relative, the hippopotamus.

The conclusion by University of California, Berkeley, post-doctoral fellow Jean-Renaud Boisserie and his French colleagues finally puts to rest the long-standing notion that the hippo is actually related to the pig or to its close relative, the South American peccary. In doing so, the finding reconciles the fossil record with the 20-year-old claim that molecular evidence points to the whale as the closest relative of the hippo.

"The problem with hippos is, if you look at the general shape of the animal it could be related to horses, as the ancient Greeks thought, or pigs, as modern scientists thought, while molecular phylogeny shows a close relationship with whales," said Boisserie. "But cetaceans – whales, porpoises and dolphins – don't look anything like hippos. There is a 40-million-year gap between fossils of early cetaceans and early hippos."

In a paper appearing this week in the Online Early Edition of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, Boisserie and colleagues Michel Brunet and Fabrice Lihoreau fill in this gap by proposing that whales and hippos had a common water-loving ancestor 50 to 60 million years ago that evolved and split into two groups: the early cetaceans, which eventually spurned land altogether and became totally aquatic; and a large and diverse group of four-legged beasts called anthracotheres. The pig-like anthracotheres, which blossomed over a 40-million-year period into at least 37 distinct genera on all continents except Oceania and South America, died out less than 2 and a half million years ago, leaving only one descendent: the hippopotamus.

This proposal places whales squarely within the large group of cloven-hoofed mammals (even-toed ungulates) known collectively as the Artiodactyla – the group that includes cows, pigs, sheep, antelopes, camels, giraffes and most of the large land animals. Rather than separating whales from the rest of the mammals, the new study supports a 1997 proposal to place the legless whales and dolphins together with the cloven-hoofed mammals in a group named Cetartiodactyla.

"Our study shows that these groups are not as unrelated as thought by morphologists," Boisserie said, referring to scientists who classify organisms based on their physical characteristics or morphology. "Cetaceans are artiodactyls, but very derived artiodactyls."

The origin of hippos has been debated vociferously for nearly 200 years, ever since the animals were rediscovered by pioneering French paleontologist Georges Cuvier and others. Their conclusion that hippos are closely related to pigs and peccaries was based primarily on their interpretation of the ridges on the molars of these species, Boisserie said.

"In this particular case, you can't really rely on the dentition, however," Boisserie said. "Teeth are the best preserved and most numerous fossils, and analysis of teeth is very important in paleontology, but they are subject to lots of environmental processes and can quickly adapt to the outside world. So, most characteristics are not dependable indications of relationships between major groups of mammals. Teeth are not as reliable as people thought."

As scientists found more fossils of early hippos and anthracotheres, a competing hypothesis roiled the waters: that hippos are descendents of the anthracotheres.

All this was thrown into disarray in 1985 when UC Berkeley's Vincent Sarich, a pioneer of the field of molecular evolution and now a professor emeritus of anthropology, analyzed blood proteins and saw a close relationship between hippos and whales. A subsequent analysis of mitochondrial, nuclear and ribosomal DNA only solidified this relationship.

Though most biologists now agree that whales and hippos are first cousins, they continue to clash over how whales and hippos are related, and where they belong within the even-toed ungulates, the artiodactyls. A major roadblock to linking whales with hippos was the lack of any fossils that appeared intermediate between the two. In fact, it was a bit embarrassing for paleontologists because the claimed link between the two would mean that one of the major radiations of mammals – the one that led to cetaceans, which represent the most successful re-adaptation to life in water – had an origin deeply nested within the artiodactyls, and that morphologists had failed to recognize it.

This new analysis finally brings the fossil evidence into accord with the molecular data, showing that whales and hippos indeed are one another's closest relatives.

"This work provides another important step for the reconciliation between molecular- and morphology-based phylogenies, and indicates new tracks for research on emergence of cetaceans," Boisserie said.

Boisserie became a hippo specialist while digging with Brunet for early human ancestors in the African republic of Chad. Most hominid fossils earlier than about 2 million years ago are found in association with hippo fossils, implying that they lived in the same biotopes and that hippos later became a source of food for our distant ancestors. Hippos first developed in Africa 16 million years ago and exploded in number around 8 million years ago, Boisserie said.

Now a post-doctoral fellow in the Human Evolution Research Center run by integrative biology professor Tim White at UC Berkeley, Boisserie decided to attempt a resolution of the conflict between the molecular data and the fossil record. New whale fossils discovered in Pakistan in 2001, some of which have limb characteristics similar to artiodactyls, drew a more certain link between whales and artiodactyls. Boisserie and his colleagues conducted a phylogenetic analysis of new and previous hippo, whale and anthracothere fossils and were able to argue persuasively that anthracotheres are the missing link between hippos and cetaceans.

While the common ancestor of cetaceans and anthracotheres probably wasn't fully aquatic, it likely lived around water, he said. And while many anthracotheres appear to have been adapted to life in water, all of the youngest fossils of anthracotheres, hippos and cetaceans are aquatic or semi-aquatic.

"Our study is the most complete to date, including lots of different taxa and a lot of new characteristics," Boisserie said. "Our results are very robust and a good alternative to our findings is still to be formulated."

Brunet is associated with the Laboratoire de Géobiologie, Biochronologie et Paléontologie Humaine at the Université de Poitiers and with the Collège de France in Paris. Lihoreau is a post-doctoral fellow in the Département de Paléontologie of the Université de N'Djaména in Chad.

The work was supported in part by the Mission Paléoanthropologique Franco-Tchadienne, which is co-directed by Brunet and Patrick Vignaud of the Université de Poitiers, and in part by funds to Boisserie from the Fondation Fyssen, the French Ministère des Affaires Etrangères and the National Science Foundation's Revealing Hominid Origins Initiative, which is co-directed by Tim White and Clark Howell of UC Berkeley.


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To: Ichneumon
"So can lions and tigers -- are you going to claim that they're the same species? "

Not same species, but same kind. But lions and tiger's offspring are sterile, so it's not clear that they are the same kind. Whereas, Wolfdogs are not sterile.

Wolves appear to be nothing more than genetic sorting of a canine ancestor.

321 posted on 02/08/2005 9:21:38 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: Modernman

Treebeard! You need to lay off the anabolics!


322 posted on 02/08/2005 9:22:11 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: RaceBannon
Not me, but the people who actually believe that a mammal went to the land, then went back to the water and develped some sort of mechanism to breath underwater or breach the water and breath air, they are the people who lost credibility.

You implied that whales have gills. They do not. You demonstrated your abysmal ignorance of basic biology with that statement. If you don't even know the fundamental princimples involved, then there's no reason to trust you when you claim to "know" that the whole thing is false.
323 posted on 02/08/2005 9:24:09 AM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Ichneumon

No, the problem is there is ZERO evidence, only opinions.

Whereas, we have th Bible, and when you look at the actual land, fossils and the fossil records, and then look at the Bible, there is ZERO need to add phrases like

...OVER TIME IT DEVELOPED...

...MIGHT HAVE LOOKED LIKE THIS...

...ATE PLANTS AND LEAVES FOR CENTURIES...

...BEGAN ON THE LAND, THEN WENT TO THE SEA, THEN WENT BACK TO THE LAND AND BECAME SOMETHING ELSE...

The number of times an evolutionist has to say LOOKED LIKE THIS MAYBE OR BECAME THIS ALMOST

LOOKED SIMILAR

when there is ZERO evidence to back up their claim, only an opinion...

And you people call that science!!

That is not science, it is a fairy tale.


324 posted on 02/08/2005 9:24:21 AM PST by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: Dimensio

I mistyped, Sorry, I didn't mean to imply whales have gills, I know they breath air, I just mistyped due to my excitement on defeating the evolutionary fairy tale...

Plus I was lazy, I didnt want to delete it...


325 posted on 02/08/2005 9:25:17 AM PST by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: Dimensio

And by the way, I am not ignorant of that, I was just lazy.


326 posted on 02/08/2005 9:25:53 AM PST by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: RaceBannon; HankReardon
No, you KEEP MISSING IT!!

Not at all.

they SAID FOR YEARS THAT A HIPPO LIKE CREATURE WENT BACK INTO THEW WATER

Right, or at least in the ballpark.

Then that hippo like creature developed gills, balleen, ability to swim not sink

GILLS??

I regret to inform you that you are hallucinating. No one has ever claimed that any lineage of mammals "developed gills", nor do whales have "gills" of any sort. Which creationist website did you get this horsecrap from? Hint: Trying to "learn" about biology from creationist sources is like trying to "learn" about conservatism from Michael Moore -- and for the same reasons.

And as for developing "ability to swim not sink", is it truly your contention that non-aquatic mammals are unable to swim?

THEN, that same animal, after a billion years, came out of the water and became elephants or bears or whatever

You are, again, hallucinating. That has never, ever been a claim of evolutionary biology.

NOW, this article says that whatever went into the water from land CREATED hippos,

Yeah, so? And you're being confused if by "went into the water" you mean "had already been fully aquatic"... That's not the case.

the exact opposite of what they said 2 DAYS AGO!

WHY ARE YOU LYING?

The present article is in no way in contradiction with "what they said 2 days ago", son. Check out the first 20-25 links in my post #37 in order to learn what they *actually* were "saying 2 days ago" -- indeed, for the past many years. It is *consistent* with the current article, you wild-eyed dolt.

Just where do you "learn" the falsehoods which your head is filled with?

Evolution is such a fun theory, you can make up anything from microbes on meteors to aliens to whales becoming hippos and you are called a scientist...

No, unlike YOURSELF (see above), and the various lies told by numerous creationists, evolutionary biologists don't feel free to "make up anything" they want -- they craft scenarios to be as consistent with the evidence as possible, which is what science is all about.

You guys get funnier the more you speak!

Proverbs 29:9: "If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet."

327 posted on 02/08/2005 9:28:21 AM PST by Ichneumon
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To: RaceBannon
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply whales have gills, I know they breath air, I just mistyped due to my excitement on defeating the evolutionary fairy tale...

Ah, I see. In the thrill of knocking down your strawman, you for some reason decided that gills were a relevant subject when speaking of whales.

Perhaps you could come up with a slightly more convincing cover story.

Plus I was lazy, I didnt want to delete it...

Even though it made you look like a fool. Well, an even bigger fool than usual.
328 posted on 02/08/2005 9:28:49 AM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: RaceBannon
mistyped, Sorry, I didn't mean to imply whales have gills, I know they breath air, I just mistyped due to my excitement on defeating the evolutionary fairy tale...

Seems that is a common problem with the creationists - twisting facts to fill their argument.

Like the guy yesterday that said the Bible was referring to the "four corners" of the compass.

329 posted on 02/08/2005 9:31:03 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: RaceBannon
And by the way, I am not ignorant of that, I was just lazy.

Also too lazy to pick up some decent science books?

330 posted on 02/08/2005 9:32:16 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: houeto
I was hoping for something more exciting like the Venus Fly-Trap.


331 posted on 02/08/2005 9:32:46 AM PST by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: MojoWire
In the absense of a clearer explanation in the Bible, why is it so hard to believe that God created some creatures over a long period of time.

If God knows the number of hairs on a given man's head, then why does it not make sense that God also guides and forms the biological process in which DNA and genetics change and evolve.


I'm not arguing (or agreeing with) the idea that God created some creatures over a long period. As you said, the Bible isn't clear so we don't know for sure. I'm saying that man was created man - not something else that evolved into man. Scripture specifically says that God created man in his image in the beginning. Not only does the Bible make this clear in Genesis 1:26-30, it was confirmed by Christ in Matthew 19:4 and Mark 10:6.

I would also point to the obvious chasm between man and beast. Aside from the advances that we've made, man is the only creature that has a God conscience or religious nature.
332 posted on 02/08/2005 9:33:19 AM PST by Jaysun (Nefarious deeds for hire.)
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To: DannyTN
Not same species, but same kind. But lions and tiger's offspring are sterile, so it's not clear that they are the same kind.

It's not that simple:

"No fertile male ligers have yet been found and it is assumed all are sterile. This is not the case with females and a 15-year-old ligeress at Munich Zoo produced a li-liger after mating with a lion."
Tiger Territory

333 posted on 02/08/2005 9:34:40 AM PST by Modernman (What is moral is what you feel good after. - Ernest Hemingway)
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To: Jaysun
Scripture specifically says that God created man in his image in the beginning.

God created man on Day One?

334 posted on 02/08/2005 9:36:08 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: Mamzelle
An awful shame--all those fascinating creatures, now extinct.

But their descendants live on. The same goes for my Grandma, for that matter.

Now are you going to answer the questions and the points which were raised, or is that your lame attempt to sidestep them and hope nobody notices?

335 posted on 02/08/2005 9:38:09 AM PST by Ichneumon
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To: longshadow
Testing the code for using a pic for a link:


336 posted on 02/08/2005 9:38:28 AM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: WildTurkey

nO, jUST UNABLE TO ESCAPE THE EMBARRASSMENT OF A QUICK TYPO!!

(...oops!..)

Not one I am going to live down for some time here...(sigh)...


337 posted on 02/08/2005 9:38:53 AM PST by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: Mamzelle

Pregnant Mule


338 posted on 02/08/2005 9:40:39 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: Modernman
Well both tigers ans lions are considered cats. They might be one kind that has simply gotten to the point that it's difficult to mate. It's difficult to mate a dachshund with a St. Bernard too. If the dachshund is female the size will kill her.

Did you read the last line of the link you posted?

"Patrick (a li-liger) is one of the fortunate few and was saved through the generosity of The Roar Foundation. He now lives a life of ease and gets great enjoyment from spraying unwary "visitors. "

339 posted on 02/08/2005 9:40:57 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: Modernman
Continue this trend for hundreds of thousands or millions of years and the descendants of chihuahuas and Great Danes will most certainly be considered separate species of animal.

I don't think anyone can dispute that if we had first run across the Chihuahua and the Great Dane out in the wild, with no other varieties of dog extant (if they had died out, for example), we would not have hesitated in the least to consider them separate species.

They're certainly more different morphologically, and more reproductively isolated, than many other creatures which people comfortably label as different species (such as distinct varieties of birds, etc.)

340 posted on 02/08/2005 9:42:03 AM PST by Ichneumon
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