Posted on 02/03/2005 8:40:47 AM PST by Paul Ross
Thursday, February 3, 2005
Gates, Buffett, China Posted: February 3, 2005 1:00 a.m. Eastern
© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com Decisions by the world's two wealthiest men to bet on a further weakening of the U.S. dollar, coupled with China's lack of confidence in American currency should grab the attention of every working person, says Craig Smith, CEO of Swiss America Trading.
Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates is following the example of Berkshire Hathaway Chairman Warren Buffett, who made a pretax gain of $412 million in the fourth quarter of 2004 by buying foreign currencies. Citing widening U.S. trade and budget deficits and a federal debt of $7.62 trillion, Gates said in a TV interview at the World Economic Forum in Switzerland last weekend he expects the dollar to extend its three-year decline. "I'm short the dollar," Gates said, according to Bloomberg News. "The ol' dollar, it's gonna go down."
Smith, whose company specializes in tangible assets, told WorldNetDaily he can't believe this news is not the big headline across the nation. "When I saw this quote, literally I had to catch my breath," Smith said. "This is a clear-cut signal that the people who know money are running -- they are not walking -- in my opinion, they are running from the dollar." Smith said the actions of Buffett, worth more than $42.9 billion, and Gates, $46.6 billion, are significant in light of the lack of confidence recently expressed by leaders of the world's fastest growing economy, China, which has its currency pegged to the dollar. Fan Gang, director of the National Economic Research Institute in Beijing, said last week at the World Economic Forum that "the U.S. dollar is no longer -- in our opinion -- a stable currency and is devaluing all the time." Chinese Central Bank adviser Yu Yongding also has chastised U.S. policy makers, saying, "The U.S. should take the lead in putting its own house in order."
Hedging your bet Since the beginning of 2002, the dollar has dropped 26 percent against a basket of six major currencies, and the trade deficit grew to a record $609 billion. In addition, the Bush administration expects the budget deficit this year to hit an all-time high of $427 billion.
Smith notes that big investors such as Buffett, Gates and the Bank of China can hedge their portfolios by shorting the dollar -- making a profit off of its decline -- but the average person must turn to tangible assets such as gold. "That's why this [news] is music to our business," he said. Dollar-denominated investments such as retirement, 401K, college and savings accounts are in jeopardy with the currency's slide, Smith said. "An average American has to ask himself this question, 'If the two richest men in the world are abandoning the dollar, why should I stay in it?'" Stephen Moore, senior fellow in economics at the Cato Institute in Washington, told WorldNetDaily, he still believes it's anybody's guess which way the dollar will head. "These guys have been famously wrong in the past," Moore said, referring to Gates and Buffett, who are partners in investment deals. "I don't think there are any gurus who know what is going to happen." Moore says he has faith in the Bush administration and Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan, whose announcement today of a quarter-percent interest-rate hike led to a rise in the dollar. "I think the dollar has fallen about as much as it should," Moore said, "and the fact that the White House and Greenspan have made it clear that the dollar's decline is not good for the consumer makes it more likely it will be addressed." Smith points out, however, that when the dollar began sliding in 2000, then-Treasury Secretary John O'Neill said the Bush administration would maintain a strong dollar policy. When O'Neill was replaced with John Snow, the new secretary said the same thing. "It still kept falling," Smith said. "We can't depend on the dollar, with the debt, the twin deficits and the trade gap." Smith points out the silver lining that usually accompanies a drop in the dollar -- an increase in exports because U.S. products become cheaper for foreigners -- has not materialized. In fact, the November report was predicted to show a trade deficit of some $50 billion, but instead turned out to be $60.3 billion. Losing our place? Greenspan has expressed concern that the deficits poses the risk that investors may stop buying U.S. assets, propelling the dollar even lower. In that situation, Smith said, interest rates will have to rise in order to encourage people to hold on to the dollar. But consequently, he warns, the "stock market goes in the toilet." Smith said his big concern is that ultimately the U.S. may lose its place as the reserve currency of the world. He speculates that this possibility may be behind the investment strategies of Gates and Buffet. "We are first world reserve currency issued by a debtor nation," Smith said. "How long will the rest of the world accept that?"
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That means...drum roll...that wages are still continuing to grow (contrary to your claim of shrinking wages).
Ross is debunked yet again!
An outmoded thesis...even Milton..its originator.. has intimated. It was foreign governments, not the Smoot-Hawley tariff that trashed the trade.
the dollar is weak period... the problem lies not with the dollar itself but how it became a tool to tie an ecconomy to an artificial benchmark within another nation to create an environment where it facilitates production for export into that nation. Ergo china used the dollar to create an infrastructure financially to leverage itself into the US market without having any other variables such as their own sovereign currency that would fluctuate and hinder calm trade operations with positive ecconomics.
In order to throw offf this yoke that the chinese placed upon the dollar for their own benefit it needs to hemorage and hemmorage severely. The main sufferers of this tactic will be the lenders to US gov't who will recieve a currency that is de-valued about 30-40% thats what I m expecting more or less. When China starts geting the profits that do not at all cover the costs of production ergo wages that could feed people , raw material prices etc.. They will have absolutely no choice but to unwind their infrustructure from the dollar and base it on their own soveregn currency ergo yuan/renmenbi.
My mistake.
not that I want to get in the middle of this. but I will add, that these wage stats mean nothing unless government workers are excluded from them. you have to look at what is happening in private sector wages only - since government workers never see a wage cut, and in fact have built in wage increases as part of their municipal contracts, teachers unions, etc. that skews the stats.
my guess is that private sector wages are falling since 2000 - I know mine are, and everyone who works in the tech industry is, and many others. Basically, americans who have a job that feels the effect of global competition with regards to the labor they perform - is seeing declining wages. It may come from either a declining wage at the job you have, increased benefit costs passed along to the employee, or you've lost your job to offshoring and have been forced into a lower paying one in the service industry. all I am saying is - wage decline in the private sector is a real phenomena for a large number of americans.
And inflation, previously 1%, now 5.2% and rising fast, clips along merrily ECLIPSING those wage increases. Most firms have been giving far less than 5% increases. So, drum rolll please, the wages growth is in fact not keeping pace...so they are in fact shrinking.
"Butter for your bread: up 62 percent. A glass of 2 percent milk to wash it all down: It may rise as much as 50 cents a gallon ...and gasoline up 30 cents a gallon since January.
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"What causes currency devaluation is an excessive money supply. This money supply is controlled directly by the US government bond market. When they issue new bonds they increase the money supply. When the government spends more than it brings in it must issue more bonds.
Admittedly this is an over simplification and there is more to it than that, but the fact is that excessive government spending is like the government printing more money in order to pay it's bills instead of using tax revenues. Of course such an action will devalue the currency. This is what the government is doing."
I have to hand it to you Monday you are a dog that doesn't
give up the bone without a fight.
The current obsession with the dollar decline is a case of ignoring the steak and concentrating on the peas.
An analyst who spoke recently emphasised the same point you are making when he said, "Exchange rates are an extremely complicated business influenced by a large number of factors in the short and long term. Ultimately the dollar decline in the long term is unavoidable due to excessive and unsustainable debt overhang."
I seem to recall that Bill Gates may be just splitting his ticket, didn't he also give to Patty (Osama-Momma) Murray?
You are looking at Politically Correct inflation rates. Not the real rates, Core Inflation. 5.2%
Certain bubbles have crashed. Tech employees no longer command six figures at the drop of a hat.
That's to be expected. You don't expect to pay seamstresses high dollar wages now that we have machines that can sew.
You wouldn't expect to pay a soft drink dispenser high wages now that we have Coke machines selling beverages.
You don't expect paper boys to command high wages ever since papers were sold via machines on street corners.
That which can be profitably automated, *will* be automated. New software permits using far fewer System Administrators, for instance.
You no longer need 10 Java coders to build a simple web page, either.
So yes, in fields with high automation, it isn't unrealistic to see wage declines.
But in the *overall* economy, wages are up. One sector does not an economy make.
Oh yes...you, and you alone, know the "real" truth!
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"the dollar is weak period..."
Please see post #104.
its broader then just tech. and now this merger and acquisition craze is going to blow away alot of solid good paying white collar jobs. we have a fundamental lack of capital investment in the US, and the related job and wage growth it brings, by mid and large cap US corporations - they are sitting on huge hordes of cash.
Sitting on large hordes of corporate profits does *not* mean that we have a lack of capital investment.
...And white collar management jobs are forever going to be shrinking, mergers or not, due to automation.
It takes fewer managers to manage people in a time of instant emails, for instance, than in times when uneducated line employees had to be personally instructed face to face by a manager in the days of old.
Only in your senile delusions. The wages that I gave you from the DOL were adjusted for inflation, and rising.
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