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STATE OF THE UNION -- 2005 [Live Thread]
2/2/05

Posted on 02/02/2005 3:43:44 PM PST by Timeout

The pre-spin: Bush will spend about 1/2 the speech on foreign policy, 1/2 on domestic, with heavy emphasis on Social Security reform. It's said he will provide a detailed tutorial on the SS system and its problems with a few details on his personal accounts proposal.

Laura's guests are said to be an Afghan voter and an Iraqi voter (too bad there's no Ukrainian wearing an orange hat!).

Should we start a drinking game on how many times the pool camera swings to Hillary? Hmmm. Probably not...it would likely hamper out typing ability.

Word on the blogs has it that the closing part of the speech is a hum-dinger. Set your VCR's.

Report here on outrageous MediaCrat spin before AND after the SOTU. Pictures and screen caps welcome.


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To: sheltonmac
ROFLOL! Funny!

That's the first time in my life I've ever been accused of being a cynic..........and by a visionless, self-absorbed cynic, no less.

Funny.

4,581 posted on 02/03/2005 1:57:16 PM PST by ohioWfan (George W. Bush........AVENGER of the BONES!!)
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To: OldFriend

Speaking of FDR, on brit's grapevine tonight he produced a quote of FDR's in an address to congress in which he advocates the same plan the president is pushing! LOL


4,582 posted on 02/03/2005 3:43:02 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: Soul Seeker

This afternoon Sean had VP Cheney on the air and played all the quotes from X42 and various other dems promoting fixing the crisis in social security in general and in particular promoting the savings accounts.


4,583 posted on 02/03/2005 4:51:44 PM PST by OldFriend (America's glory is not dominion, but liberty.)
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To: maine-iac7
How's the weather over there?

Hot, muggy, and raining. Typical tropical weather. :-)

4,584 posted on 02/04/2005 12:19:25 PM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: arasina

Arasina, I am just now getting through all the discussion on this thread and I had to tell you I was ROFLMAO at your post!!! I want a George Bush Clone!!!


4,585 posted on 02/04/2005 5:45:50 PM PST by lawgirl (Proud 2 time voter for George W. Bush as of 7:21 AM CST, November 2, 2004. LUVYA DUBYA!!)
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To: lawgirl
Arasina, I am just now getting through all the discussion on this thread and I had to tell you I was ROFLMAO at your post!!! I want a George Bush Clone!!!

Why did that make you laugh? I'm serious as all get out.



;^)

4,586 posted on 02/04/2005 9:17:43 PM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
Don't mind me...Just trying some HTML tricks.

Great speech!

4,587 posted on 02/04/2005 9:26:19 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day (America is a great country. 38 million illegal aliens can't be wrong.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
Well, that one worked. Good. Let's try a few others:

The Democrat Party Anti-American Party

Barbara Boxer is deeply saddened.

Thanks, Mary Mapes. But I'd Rather not.

4,588 posted on 02/04/2005 9:30:08 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day (America is a great country. 38 million illegal aliens can't be wrong.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
VDH covers this.

In place of Harry Truman and JFK we got John Kerry calling the once-maimed Prime Minister Allawi a "puppet," Senator Murray praising bin Laden's social-welfare work, Senator Boxer calling Secretary of State Rice a veritable liar for agreeing with the various casus belli that Boxer's own Senate colleagues had themselves passed in October 2002. And for emotional and financial support, the Democratic insiders turned to George Soros and Michael Moore, who assured them that their president was either Hitlerian, a dunce, or a deserter.

4,589 posted on 02/04/2005 9:37:58 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day (America is a great country. 38 million illegal aliens can't be wrong.)
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To: arasina

I was laughing because I totally understand and agree. He needs to make enough clones to go around- men today are totally too wimpy!


4,590 posted on 02/05/2005 12:23:56 AM PST by lawgirl (Proud 2 time voter for George W. Bush as of 7:21 AM CST, November 2, 2004. LUVYA DUBYA!!)
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To: ntnychik

Live Thread Ping


4,591 posted on 02/05/2005 10:53:29 PM PST by ntnychik (Proud member of the Bush-eoisie)
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To: benice
********************** By Steven Kreytak AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF Tuesday, November 16, 2004 The phone calls and e-mails and instant messages from their son in Iraq stopped Nov. 5, as the military imposed a blackout before the U.S.-led offensive into the insurgent-ridden city of Fallujah. Still, Janet and Bill Norwood slept with a baby monitor next to the computer in their Pflugerville home, the receiver next to their bed. They didn't want to miss the knocking sound their instant messaging program made when their 25-year-old son Byron, a Marine sergeant, jumped online to write home.

In the wee hours of Sunday morning a knock came, but not from the computer. There were two Marines at their front door. "Through the window I could see the brass buttons on the dress blues," Janet Norwood said Monday. "I thought if I didn't open the door it wouldn't be true." Marine Sgt. Byron Wayne Norwood, a graduate of Pflugerville High School, died Saturday during combat in Iraq, the Defense Department announced Monday.

It was the news that Bill and Janet Norwood dreaded during their son's first tour of duty in Iraq at the start of the war last year. It was the news they thought they had dodged when they met him with balloons at the Austin airport as he returned home after six months. It was the news they began to fear all over again when he returned to the fight in July. "I always had the feeling that once we got him home safe and sound after the first time, that sending him again we were just kind of tempting fate," Janet Norwood said.

She spoke as a stream of friends and co-workers came to the house to offer their condolences and food and drinks, each pausing at the dining room table to view an array of family photos showing Byron as a boy. A UPS deliveryman knocked on the door with a box containing a Marine Corps flag that Janet Norwood had ordered. Bill Norwood had once told the deliveryman to announce "UPS" upon knocking, so as not to scare his wife, who had constantly feared news of her son's death. Monday, Bill Norwood told the deliveryman, a Gulf War vet, that their son had died.

The circumstances of his death have not been disclosed. A Defense Department news release said only that it was "the result of enemy action in Al Anbar province." Al Anbar province is west of Baghdad and includes the city of Fallujah, where a major offensive against insurgents began more than a week ago. U.S. and Iraqi officials have declared that they now control most of the city, although pockets of resistance remain. At least 38 American soldiers have died in the offensive, The Associated Press reported.

Norwood was assigned to the 3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division, I Marine Expeditionary Force, based at Camp Pendleton, Calif. Through patching together news reports, Bill Norwood believes that his son's battalion entered Fallujah from the northwest last week, captured the train station and has been involved in house-to-house fighting for the past several days. "He believed strongly in keeping the fight on terrorism over there," Bill Norwood said. "He said, 'We fight the battles over there so you don't have to fight them at home.' "

Byron Norwood was determined to make the United States safer, to bring freedom to the Iraqi people and to make the world a better place, his family said. And he made it clear that he wasn't afraid to die. "Byron understood the consequences," said his older brother Grant Norwood, 26. "There was no unfinished business with the family. We all understood that he might not come back."

In addition to his parents and brother, Norwood is survived by sisters Kristen Hullum, 28, and Grayson Norwood, 22; brother Colin Norwood, 20; and grandparents Jake W. Aston and Jeane Aston of Houston. Funeral arrangements have not been set. The family is unsure when Norwood's body will be returned to the United States.

Byron Norwood was born in Austin and went to elementary schools in the Eanes school district. His family moved to Pflugerville in 1991, where he attended Westview Middle School. At Pflugerville High School, where a moment of silence was observed Monday, Norwood played trumpet in the jazz and marching bands and acted in dramatic productions, including "Fiddler on the Roof." But he always wanted to be a Marine. Upon high school graduation in 1998, Norwood joined the Marine reserves. He took some classes at Austin Community College and worked as an assistant in the Marine recruiting office in Round Rock.

In 2001, he signed up for active duty. In January 2003, Norwood deployed to Iraq for the invasion to oust Saddam Hussein. His father said he was involved in 20 engagements during his first tour, including a dogged fight to clear the way for supply lines at Nasiriyah following the capture of U.S. troops by Iraqi forces in that city.

When he returned home, Norwood spent two weeks in Pflugerville. He wanted nothing more than to spend time with his family, eating fajitas and spaghetti and green bean casserole at home, his parents said. He seemed more mature, his siblings said, but not so much so that he stopped doing his impressions of Jim Carrey in the movie "Ace Ventura: Pet Detective," or of Carrey as Fire Marshal Bill in a skit on the television show "In Living Color," said Hullum, his sister. "He was a jokester, so fun," she said. "It was hard to think of my baby brother as this big strong Marine."

When Norwood returned to Camp Pendleton, he was put in charge of organizing training for the 160 Marines in his company as they prepared for redeployment to Iraq. For his part, Norwood took intensive Arabic language and culture classes to use while training the developing Iraqi army. For his parents, the second deployment was even tougher than the first. He was one year away from completing his enlistment requirement and going to college. But Norwood was excited to return and "get the job done," his mother said. "I told him, 'I just feel like I am sending you into the world and I am supposed to protect you,' " Janet Norwood said. "He said, 'Mom, now it's my job to protect you.' "

4,592 posted on 02/06/2005 8:20:17 AM PST by NewsGal
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