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Corporate jet crashes during takeoff
MSNBC

Posted on 02/02/2005 4:46:08 AM PST by HAL9000

breaking on msnbc


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Illinois; US: New Jersey; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 448alliance; airport; bergencounty; crash; generalaviation; nojets; planecrash; rba; route46; rt46; teterboro; teterboroairport; toosmall
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To: Murphy63

Do you have information for us that you can share? Sources perhaps?


181 posted on 02/02/2005 6:27:49 AM PST by RushCrush (GWB: Saving your ass whether you like it or not!)
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To: RushCrush

Silly you.


182 posted on 02/02/2005 6:29:34 AM PST by Trust but Verify (Their candidate uses rock stars to attract crowds. Ours IS a rock star!)
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To: Murphy63
We should wait for a statement from the Pilot.

I agree with you there.

183 posted on 02/02/2005 6:30:47 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: Trust but Verify

I know, I know.
I can't help but poke at them!


184 posted on 02/02/2005 6:30:49 AM PST by RushCrush (GWB: Saving your ass whether you like it or not!)
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To: Alberta's Child

Teterboro RE tax rate is almost zero. The airport pays most of the freight for services


185 posted on 02/02/2005 6:31:13 AM PST by JoeV1 (The Democrats-The unlawful and corrupt leading the uneducated and blind)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican; Dog Gone; dead
Some people on this thread are out of control, off their meds or just got up on the wrong side of the bed it appears to me. Too much hostility from a select few, IMHO.

Discussing possibilities is not the same thing as wild speculation.

186 posted on 02/02/2005 6:32:47 AM PST by b4its2late (Born free...Taxed to death and lied to by the Liberal Media.)
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To: SlowBoat407

Yes, very right, and thank you for your rebuttal!


187 posted on 02/02/2005 6:33:21 AM PST by Bigturbowski
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
I was fortunate enuf to be offered a ride on a friend's Challenger jet back on December 9th for a 90 minute flight down to Pensacola.

I brought along my Canon ZR-90 and filmed the event. I'm currently editing the video in Adobe Premiere. It is my first effort and I find it to be laborious, but fascinating.

After we safely landed in Pensacola, my friend leaned over and said that "Oh, by the way, this is the same kind of jet that Ebersol crashed in a week or so ago."

I'm watching my footage this morning and getting the "Willys."

188 posted on 02/02/2005 6:33:23 AM PST by battlegearboat
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To: MeekOneGOP

ping ???


189 posted on 02/02/2005 6:34:38 AM PST by WestCoastGal (Daytona 500 ~ 18 days! 11 days to the Shootout ~~Sr "If you can't take the speed get off the track")
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To: Miss Marple

Holy Name is about 5 miles from the crash site while Hackensack Medical Center is probably 1.5 - 2 miles.


190 posted on 02/02/2005 6:35:37 AM PST by JoeV1 (The Democrats-The unlawful and corrupt leading the uneducated and blind)
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To: JoeV1

*shrugs*

The direction of the skid in the grass is not in line with the direction of the runway, so he did try to steer it away from the road.
Unfortunately, for whatever reason, he beelined straight across the grass, across the road and into the waehouse across the street.
Speculation, but the green laser pointer incidents of Dec30 and Jan12 come to mind.


191 posted on 02/02/2005 6:36:07 AM PST by Darksheare (Trolls beware, the icy hands of the forum wraith are behind you!)
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To: Murphy63

Welcome. Don't be easily intimidated.


192 posted on 02/02/2005 6:36:38 AM PST by sarasota
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To: Trust but Verify

I never claimed expertise. I was just bringing some information in that seemed like it might be relevant under the circumstances. I had hoped that we could let it go with a simple "It's too early to say."


193 posted on 02/02/2005 6:36:42 AM PST by SlowBoat407 (Speculating idiot)
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To: Darksheare

How dare you speculate! don't you know that is verbotten on this site now! /sarc


194 posted on 02/02/2005 6:37:45 AM PST by RushCrush (Trolls are boring)
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To: maggiefluffs

witness reported pilot dragging himself with broken leg away from plane


195 posted on 02/02/2005 6:38:42 AM PST by kendu
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To: Alberta's Child

"Here's an interesting local piece of information....."

Thanks for this info. I wonder if it has a mayor and city council.


196 posted on 02/02/2005 6:39:26 AM PST by Socratic (Ignorant and free? It's not to be! - T. Jefferson (paraphrase))
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To: RushCrush

LOL!
So I've heard.
*chuckle*

But I'm the keeper of the watercooler, so this is officially 'watercooler rumorspeak' at the moment.
/ joke.


197 posted on 02/02/2005 6:40:04 AM PST by Darksheare (Trolls beware, the icy hands of the forum wraith are behind you!)
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To: Murphy63; Velveeta
The likelihood of this being terrorism is very small.

1. The plane did not explode, but rather skidded.

2. No hijacking, but normal corporate pilots in control of the plane.

3. Plane did not crash, but skidded.

4. Building plane crashed into was not a reasonable terrorist target; it is a clothing warehouse.

5. Jet was not carrying anyone of note politically, but tax firm people on their way to Chicago.

I do not appreciate either of you immediately pinging me and telling me that this is similar to 9/11. It is not, and I don't like the assumption that every event in this country is a conspiracy. Accidents happened during WWII as well; not every mishap was the fault of Hirohito or Hitler.

198 posted on 02/02/2005 6:40:14 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Velveeta

It was a logical question as there have been several incidents of lasers being shone into cockpits AT Teterboro airport.


Um, yes it was logical. Now here's a question for you. Of all these incidents how many have gone down because of laser dazzling? You see, that is why there is a co-pilot, just in case the pilot is incapacitated for any reason. I understand this plane was probably taking off, which would not allow much time for the copilot to take control, but if you look closely the jet never left the ground which to me means there was some mechanical problem not allowing the jet to get airborne. If the pilot was blinded you don't think that the co-pilot could have pulled back on the controls and at least got them into the air? Or was this "laser terrorist" so good that he blinded them both with one fail swoop of his penlight? I think not.


199 posted on 02/02/2005 6:40:34 AM PST by Bigturbowski
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To: Bigturbowski

Here's a question for you: How many of the planes laser dazzled were taking off?


200 posted on 02/02/2005 6:41:46 AM PST by Darksheare (Trolls beware, the icy hands of the forum wraith are behind you!)
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