On Ducks And Homosexuality

Christian news in maine.com ^ | 29 January, 2005 | Linda Kimball

[newsgatherer]

In a contentious debate between myself and some radical 'gays' who support the teaching of the 'gay' lifestyle to children, one of them asked me if and when I had 'chosen' to be heterosexual. "Was it at age 3, 6, 13, 19?" he asked, "Or did you (a female) just 'naturally' gravitate towards boys or men without any outside pressure or force?" This question, laden with implied meaning, is a favorite tactical 'trap' set by 'gays' for unsuspecting and unprepared heterosexuals. It plays upon and manipulates our consciences so as to cause us to feel guilty; it lures us into setting aside logic and reason and calls upon us to be led by emotion; it purposefully lends itself to creating confusion. Its' underlying premise is that 'gay' behavior is the result of 'orientation', a meaningless, nonsensical term meant to fool us into believing in the existence of a hitherto unheard of third gender or race. Thus we are coaxed into concluding that 'gayness' and heterosexuality must be the same and therefore 'gayness' is deserving of 'inclusion, sensitivity, and rights.' This is nothing but a cleverly crafted fable, but to dissent against it is to be guilty of hate, 'homophobia,' bigotry, and racism.

My response, just below, seemingly disarmed them and after calling me a few obligatory names, they quit the debate.

"There was no 'choice'........there was never any question........my gravitation towards the opposite sex occured as naturally as breathing air. Now for yourself, 'something' occured that interfered with your natural 'gravitational' process towards the opposite sex and manhood that, in effect, stunted it in much the same way as a baby duck can have its natural progression towards becoming a mature duck interfered ...

[Lindykim]

snip...the transmission of life is sacred, ongoing, the product of the Creator, and to be protected by the assurance that every act of procreation be accomplished within the possible (even if divinely possible/Sarah-Abraham) creation of new life.


Yes indeed, the transmission of life is sacred, which is why when one male transmits 'life' into the repository of waste {rectum} of another male, or spills it onto the ground or onto another's face or into someone's mouth, they are wasting, killing, and profaning life.


Your defense of aberration is based upon the transitory and highly fickle emotion called 'love'. Love is selfish, pleasure seeking,and transitory unless made whole and good by virtues: total commitment, fidelity, self-sacrifice, honesty, and integrity.


It is you who needs to understand what God teaches about these issue for you've presented twisted, upside-down versions thereof.

[Beckwith]

The Dodo bird was well known to have a high incidence of homosexual behavior.

[Rca2000]

I am going to toss something out here, and I am sure I will be called a racist, radical, homophobic bigot,and such, but, here goes...

IMHO, I think that Homosexuality is a choice, too, but it MAY not be a conscious choice. Follow me, here, for a minute.

Say, a man, has a bad childhood, and is unloved, to a great degree, by his father. in his relationships with women, things do not work out too well, THEN, he gets together with a woman, and nearly gets married, only to have her hurt him quite cruelly. he is not able to deal properly with the rejection, and ,at the same time, is quite liberal minded, and not a Christian. Satan comes in, and convinces him(or her) that all people of the opposite sex will hurt you, and puts a perverted spirit in him. soon, he no longer has a desire for women, and then desires men.

I did not make this up, it is what seems to have happened to my cousin, and I am not sure of the details of his bad relationship, only that a woman hurt him badly, many years ago, and he never has been close to his father. He is in his 50's now, and is VERY sensitive about discussions regarding homosexuality, liberalism, the war, etc(in fact, he nearly became violent with me, a few months back, when he was whining about the war, Bush as Hitler, and so on, and I said, "so I guess you would rather see Hillary in there, 'eh, and he got in my face, and yelled at me, saying is was putting words in his mouth. I just sat there and took it, because he is my cousin, he is(and has always been) in poor health(he has a pacemaker now), and I did not want to become more of a black sheep to the family(his part, that is), than I already am.

Several years ago, he was living with a known gay man, but does not now. He has never publicly made known his preference, but we all feel that he is gay.He is an arts teacher, and into arts and theater.

There probably is a lot more to becoming gay than this, but I do feel that rejection and a perverted spirit from Satan, play a lot in that decision.

Now, go ahead, and call me names. I have heard it all before, I imagine.

[odoso]

"Even though the homosexual agenda is very real, how insidious it is, is still up in the air to me. I have a hard time believing that anyone could be convinced to be gay."

I believe your correct in that one cannot "convince" another to become gay. It is a choice to partake in perversion, and your excellent point demonstrates just that... I'm sure there are those (men and women) who have been talked into or persuaded to "try it" only to realize, nope, this isn't for me; I'm 100% straight.

"The insidious stalking and forcible indoctrination of innocent, impressionable children in our public schools by these activist criminals, freaks and pedophiles clearly demonstrates the depths of their sickening pursuit of perversion and all the corruption that goes along with it!"

I'm assuming this is what your referring to when you say to me people cannot be convinced to be gay? My point here is children don't know any better, their innocent "impressionable" undeveloped in a sense, human beings. So if they're being taught in our public schools (which they are) that there's nothing wrong with perversion (homosexuality)... need I say more.

Again, I encourage you to get on a homosexual ping list, it won't be long until your see just how insidious it is... In fact, if you'd like; I'll ask for you to be put on one. But ONLY if you ask me to.

Peace.

[Lindykim]

snip..The Dodo bird was well known to have a high incidence of homosexual behavior.


"Gay" activist-researchers have also said the same thing about water buffalo, bonobo chimps, and penguins. But the reality is this: man can only know about himself. And to be yet more precise: he can only know what goes on in his own mind, and not in the minds of others. He cannot get into the minds of animals, therefore he has no way of knowing why they do the things they do.
So when someone states that dodo birds, water buffalo, bonobo chimps, and penguins engage in homosexual sex, they are 'speculating' and should never be taken seriously.

[Beckwith]

IMHO, I think that Homosexuality is a choice, too, but it MAY not be a conscious choice. Follow me, here, for a minute.

Of course it's a choice. You have no need to apologize or be defensive.

[Hemingway's Ghost]

Our newest member of the editorial team at Christian-news-in-maine.com

She still needs quite a bit of work, quite frankly. Her argument is trite.

[Beckwith]

I should have marked my post as "sarcasm".

The Dodo bird was well known to have a high incidence of homosexual behavior

The Dodo bird is extinct. If all homo sapiens were homosexuals we'd be extinct too.

Lame attempt at humor.

[Hemingway's Ghost]

A bump for an outstanding rebuttal post.

[Hemingway's Ghost]

You wrote paragraph upon paragraph, and all for what? To say, "Linda bad homophobe; you need to feel sorry for poor, picked-on homosexuals." Methinks they've been trading on the "you people are mean and ought to feel sorry for us" line to the point where Americans are becoming so sick of hearing it that they're ready to 'regurgitate' it.

What Urbane_Guerilla did was utterly dismantle Linda's argument.

[newsgatherer]

Ah, you will notice that while you are entitled to your opinion, we ahve enver asked you to submit anything, perhaps that is becasue we find your comments to be trite?

[Hemingway's Ghost]

Ah, you will notice that while you are entitled to your opinion, we ahve enver asked you to submit anything, perhaps that is becasue we find your comments to be trite?

I'm a professional writer and editor. Based on your site, and the work you consider worthy of publication, I'm positive you could not afford to hire me.

[Lindykim]

snip....'her argument is trite..."


Trite: common, hackneyed, ordinary, oft-repeated, old, ancient


It seems to me that you have need of a dictionary to ensure that not only do you not mangle definitions and intent of words, but also to aid you in not making foolish statements on behalf of quibblers who cavil.

[Lindykim]

Actually, it was a good attempt at humor and very much on target.

[Hemingway's Ghost]

I used the word in the manner I meant to use it, my friend.

Main Entry: trite
Pronunciation: 'trIt
Function: adjective
Inflected Form(s): trit·er; trit·est
Etymology: Latin tritus, from past participle of terere to rub, wear away -- more at THROW
: hackneyed or boring from much use : not fresh or original
- trite·ly adverb
- trite·ness noun
synonyms TRITE, HACKNEYED, STEREOTYPED, THREADBARE mean lacking the freshness that evokes attention or interest. TRITE applies to a once effective phrase or idea spoiled from long familiarity <"you win some, you lose some" is a trite expression>. HACKNEYED stresses being worn out by overuse so as to become dull and meaningless . STEREOTYPED implies falling invariably into the same pattern or form . THREADBARE applies to what has been used until its possibilities of interest have been totally exhausted .

[Lindykim]

A 'professional writer and editor"? Based on the fact that you found urbane-guerillas 'caviling' impressive, you gave evidence of one whose 'editorial' skills are the product of 'conditioning' so as to ensure proper thinking and response rather than an independant thought process.

[Lindykim]

Now that you've shown us you know how to use a dictionary, give us some documented evidence which shows that the arguments made by the author have been used before and so very often, that they can be qualified as 'trite'. If you can't, then we'll know you were offering nothing more than an empty and TRITE opinion.

[Protagoras]

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it must be a fruit.

[Hemingway's Ghost]

A 'professional writer and editor"? Based on the fact that you found urbane-guerillas 'caviling' impressive, you gave evidence of one whose 'editorial' skills are the product of 'conditioning' so as to ensure proper thinking and response rather than an independant thought process.

I take it you authored this piece; if so, I did not pick up on that in my earlier posts. Am I correct?

I have no dog in this fight---my brand of conservativism is not defined by, nor does it consider, an individual's sexuality. I read your argument and Urban_Guerilla's rebuttal, and U_G dismantled you. Your flailing about here is reminiscient of an author who thought his work a piece of unassailable genius . . . and has been informed that it just might not be.

[Hemingway's Ghost]

Now that you've shown us you know how to use a dictionary, give us some documented evidence which shows that the arguments made by the author have been used before and so very often, that they can be qualified as 'trite'. If you can't, then we'll know you were offering nothing more than an empty and TRITE opinion.

Ah . . . do you read? Do you read FR?