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Freemasonry's Influence in Europe
Zenit.org ^ | January 30, 2005 | Zenit

Posted on 01/30/2005 7:07:08 PM PST by AncientAirs

Incompatible With Christian Religion, Says Historian

MADRID, Spain, JAN. 30, 2005 (Zenit.org).- To understand what is happening in Europe, the phenomenon of Masonry must be taken into account, says Protestant historian César Vidal.

The director of the program "La Linterna" of the Spanish bishops' COPE radio network, Vidal has just written a book, "Los Masones: La Historia de la Sociedad Secreta Más Poderosa" (The Freemasons: History of the Most Powerful Secret Society), published by Planeta.

Among other things, the book addresses the Masonic influence in the most important events of recent Spanish history, especially since the election last March of the Spanish Socialist Labor Party (PSOE).

Vidal says that "the secularist current promoted by the government headed by José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero shares more than enough Masonry's rank anti-clericalism."

The author explains that the Freemasons have an enormous role in the European Union and, by way of example, says that "the project of the European Constitution has been driven by a Freemason," Valéry Giscard D'Estaing, "who has excluded mention of the continent's Christian roots and, in addition, has insisted on the inclusion of an article that subjects the churches of the different nations but frees 'philosophical organizations' from that obligation."

Vidal has doctorates in history, philosophy and theology, and a law degree.

Q: Which outstanding personalities in Spain were and are Masons, a fact known by very few people?

Vidal: The list would be too long and some, only some, are mentioned in my book "The Freemasons." Suffice it to say by way of illustration that the Grand Master of the great Spanish east is Dr. Josep Corominas, PSOE deputy; that the special five-member commission that established Felipe González as the PSOE's secretary-general has three Masons among its members -- one of them the future president of the Senate -- and that Rodríguez Zapatero's grandfather was a Freemason.

Q: Can it be said that Masonry is behind the secularist current that is being witnessed in Spain?

Vidal: What can be said without danger of exaggeration is that the secularist current promoted by the government that José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero heads shares, more than enough, Masonry's rank anti-clericalism.

Q: What role does it have and might have in the European Union?

Vidal: Enormous if one takes into account that the project of the European Constitution has been promoted by a Freemason who has excluded mention of the continent's Christian roots and, in addition, has insisted on the inclusion of an article that subjects the Churches to the different nations but frees "philosophical organizations" from that obligation.

Q: In what way, over the last century, has Masonry been present in the history of Spain?

Vidal: Repeatedly and lamentably. A very important role must be attributed to Masonry in the pro-independence movements of Cuba and the Philippines, in anti-clerical and secularist campaigns, in the erosion of the parliamentary monarchy of the Restoration, going so far as to take recourse to terrorism, in the proclamation of the Second Republic and, very especially, in the redaction of a Republican Constitution which created a social break that led to the Civil War.

Q: Can you tell us about concrete events that prove its struggle against Catholicism?

Vidal: That is the history of Masonry since the 18th century, but suffice it to recall, by way of example, that Rodolfo Llopis, Freemason and Socialist, became secretary-general of the PSOE [and] promoted the anti-Christian educational legislation of the Second Republic; or scandals such as that of the Banca Ambrosiana which were linked directly to the Masons' action.

Q: What were Masonry's origins?

Vidal: The real origins of Masonry date back to the end of the 17th and early 18th centuries, when groups of individuals attracted by occult gnosis founded meeting places in which, supposedly, it was transmitted.

Of course, they talk about origins that refer to pagan religions, to gnosis, to a nonexistent personality of Solomon's time and also to the druids.

Q: What are its most characteristic features, objectives and present structure? Is it a religion?

Vidal: Though Freemasons deny it, the truth is that the Masonic cosmo-vision is not one proper to a philanthropic society as they often say, but that of a religion. That circumstance explains, precisely, the repeated condemnations of the Holy See and of the other Christian confessions, which consider membership in Masonry incompatible with Christianity.

Masonry might be described as a secret society, with an initiative structure, a gnostic cosmo-vision, and an existential manifestation which makes it easy for its members to help one another when it comes to occupying important posts in society.

Q: What percentage of Freemasons are there at present?

Vidal: Without a doubt, very small. In France it is said that they are not more than 0.6% of the population. However, that has not prevented their controlling the Socialist International or their spreading in the Right itself, through personalities such as Giscard D'Estaing.

Q: In what vital points of our society -- especially in economic, political and intellectual circles and the media -- are Freemasons present?

Vidal: There are sectors that have always been of interest to Freemasons. Needless to say, politics where they control the Socialist International and have entered powerfully in parties of the Right. No less is their weight in the world of communications and, very especially, their interest in education, justice and the armed forces.

In France, for example, the "affaire des fiches" revealed to what extent Masonic officers were promoted and Catholics, on the contrary, blocked from promotion. ZE05013020


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To: ExSoldier
Amazing how self-righteous you have become. You are probably right in that we won't be seeing each other up there.

I know that I am unworthy to be saved, but so were countless others for whom Jesus died. "My faith resides in nothing less..."

I am sure that Jesus will forgive your self-importance as he forgive my intolerance.

121 posted on 01/31/2005 6:07:57 PM PST by Redleg Duke (Pass Tort Reform Now! Make the bottom clean for the catfish!)
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To: ExSoldier
Because YOU aren't going to make it into heaven!

You keep breaking at least one of the TEN COMMANDMENTS continually and GOD shall NOT be mocked;especially not by CINOs (Christians in name only) like you.

122 posted on 01/31/2005 6:10:22 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Redleg Duke
I am sure that Jesus will forgive your self-importance as he forgive my intolerance.

To which I can but reply in humility: AMEN

Amazing how self-righteous you have become. You are probably right in that we won't be seeing each other up there.

I don't think you know me by sight. I don't know you and so I don't see how you can make your comments, especially in calling me a dipwad and making fun of the Crown. So if you're a Brother in Christ, I do apologize. I don't see how petty differences will be allowed in Heaven, do you?

123 posted on 01/31/2005 6:15:21 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: ExSoldier
"I don't see how petty differences will be allowed in Heaven, do you?"

I suspect you will insist on it by insuring that the less-than perfect ones, such as myself, be barred entrance.

This exchange is completed. Don't bother me and I won't bother you...except by continuing to enjoy life, breath air and exist.

124 posted on 01/31/2005 6:23:44 PM PST by Redleg Duke (Pass Tort Reform Now! Make the bottom clean for the catfish!)
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To: Caesar Soze
With a handle like Caesar Soze we should trust you on these matters?

The Fez

125 posted on 01/31/2005 6:29:09 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: nopardons
Because YOU aren't going to make it into heaven!

And what part of thou shalt not judge....lest ye also be judged; do you not understand? nopardons, I'm not judging you or any of the masons. Nor do I judge the craft, except in the reversal of my own beliefs as I have been led by the Lord. But I won't back away from those beliefs, either. To do so, would be to deny my faith. And my faith is all I have, but the Bible says it's enough.

CINOs

Would that be pronounced seee-no or SIGN-o?

How do I know there is an actual personification of evil aka Satan? Simple I do business with him all the time. Nobody can live up to the Commandments. That's why Christ died for us.

126 posted on 01/31/2005 6:30:25 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: ExSoldier
There's no such thing in the TEN COMMANDMENTS,and you're the one who has been "judging" And libeling people all over this thread.No matter how many times you attempt to deny it,anyone with eyes and a decent command of reading comprehension skills,can see that.

Instead of trying to point out the mote in others' eyes,look to that massive beam in your own! ;^)

127 posted on 01/31/2005 6:37:31 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Instead of trying to point out the mote in others' eyes,look to that massive beam in your own!

Why are you so defensive? Are you angry? I'm not.

128 posted on 01/31/2005 6:41:54 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: ExSoldier; oldtimer; Trinity_Tx; TheLion; pt17; My Dog Likes Me; AxelPaulsenJr; jimt; af_vet_rr
I'm not defensive,nor am I angry;your projection complex is your own problem.

What I am,is sick and tired of the conspiracy nutters here who keep defaming good men and true,because of their own religious zealotry.To see someone who IS angry,read your own posts.

Okay,FRiends,the screaming anti-Masons are at it again. Come on over and help them through their blindness;yet again.

129 posted on 01/31/2005 7:00:40 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Hey there. Long time no see.


130 posted on 01/31/2005 7:07:32 PM PST by uglybiker (The most popular guy at a nudist camp can carry 2 cups of coffee and a dozen doughnuts)
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To: ExSoldier; Quix
Masons don't take you people to court,because they're all bigger,better men than you are.

But you get flattened here,on FR,because this is a public forum and to allow you and your ilk to get away with writing this spurious,vile,unsupported libel,would let the curious only see one side;the tinfoiled,black helicopter,conspiracy lunatic side and that I shall NEVER let happen here.What's the matter,pet,you want to be permitted to post whatever you want,without any refutation? ROTFLOL

Hey Quix.........you should pray for these incivil,pretend Christians;they need it.GOD is NOT to be mocked and continually breaking HIS Commandments is no way for these HOLIER THAN THOURERS,who sling mud against the righteous,are going to be in for a gigantic shock,when they die. :-)

131 posted on 01/31/2005 7:11:33 PM PST by nopardons
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To: AncientAirs

One of my Scottish ancestors was a Grand Mason. His son (Great Grandfather I think) married an Irish woman and converted to Catholicism.


132 posted on 01/31/2005 7:12:20 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Guilty! Guilty in the first degree....")
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To: nopardons
Okay, I'm bored now. I'm going back to my regular thread. I've made my point. As Redleg Duke said to me a while ago I now pass on: This exchange is completed. Don't bother me and I won't bother you...except by continuing to enjoy life, breath air and exist.

BTW: your projection complex is your own problem....?

You're a psychologist, too? Wow, I'm impressed.

133 posted on 01/31/2005 7:12:37 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: uglybiker
Hi my old FRiend! :-)

Been a while...we were away,the kids were in for Christmas,so I haven't been on FR much lately. But was the bloody shirt (post yet another damned anti-Masonic thread) and I'll be there. LOL

You doing okay ?

134 posted on 01/31/2005 7:13:43 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Floyd R Turbo

What are those people doing in that picture (Post #40).


135 posted on 01/31/2005 7:15:20 PM PST by Ciexyz (I use the term Blue Cities, not Blue States. PA is red except for Philly, Pgh & Erie)
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To: ExSoldier
You're only claiminmg to be bored,because you got your rear handed to you.As long as you had this thread to yourself and the rest of your benighted ilk was here,cheering you on,you were in your glory playing ELMER GANTRY.

You post,I'm going to reply! GOT THAT?When YOU own a site,you can set the rules.You don't own FR,you don't set the rules here! I'll reply to any post/any person I decide to.

136 posted on 01/31/2005 7:19:46 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

At it again, are they? Some things never change. Nice to know that we Masons rule the world. I'm still looking for the one in charge.


137 posted on 01/31/2005 7:24:23 PM PST by TheLion
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To: Ciexyz
That's a painting by Poussin, which is now used to support the idea that Christ and Mary Magdalen had a daughter,from which the Merogivian Kings of France are descended.It has NOTHING at all to do with FreeMasonry.It's a red herring.
138 posted on 01/31/2005 7:25:44 PM PST by nopardons
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To: TheLion
Yes,they are and this lot is SO tightly wrapped in tinfloil,the blood stopped getting to their brains decades ago. It's a wonder they can get through a day,without outside help.

I'm still trying to figure out why these people are so afraid.

139 posted on 01/31/2005 7:28:47 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
"I'm still trying to figure out why these people are so afraid

It has been my experience that the most vociferous opponents are former Masons that have failed or from those who couldn't cut the mustard to become one.

Those that can't belong, have always reacted negatively to the organization in question.

140 posted on 01/31/2005 7:35:40 PM PST by TheLion
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