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Posted on 01/28/2005 4:28:41 PM PST by metacognative

Panicked Evolutionists: The Stephen Meyer Controversy

The theory of evolution is a tottering house of ideological cards that is more about cherished mythology than honest intellectual endeavor. Evolutionists treat their cherished theory like a fragile object of veneration and worship--and so it is. Panic is a sure sign of intellectual insecurity, and evolutionists have every reason to be insecure, for their theory is falling apart.

The latest evidence of this panic comes in a controversy that followed a highly specialized article published in an even more specialized scientific journal. Stephen C. Meyer, Director of the Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture, wrote an article accepted for publication in Proceedings of the Biological Society of Washington. The article, entitled "The Origin of Biological Information and the Higher Taxonomic Categories," was published after three independent judges deemed it worthy and ready for publication. The use of such judges is standard operating procedure among "peer-reviewed" academic journals, and is considered the gold standard for academic publication.

The readership for such a journal is incredibly small, and the Biological Society of Washington does not commonly come to the attention of the nation's journalists and the general public. Nevertheless, soon after Dr. Meyer's article appeared, the self-appointed protectors of Darwinism went into full apoplexy. Internet websites and scientific newsletters came alive with outrage and embarrassment, for Dr. Meyer's article suggested that evolution just might not be the best explanation for the development of life forms. The ensuing controversy was greater than might be expected if Dr. Meyer had argued that the world is flat or that hot is cold.

Eugenie C. Scott, Executive Director of the National Center for Science Education, told The Scientist that Dr. Meyer's article came to her attention when members of the Biological Society of Washington contacted her office. "Many members of the society were stunned about the article," she told The Scientist, and she described the article as "recycled material quite common in the intelligent design community." Dr. Scott, a well known and ardent defender of evolutionary theory, called Dr. Meyer's article "substandard science" and argued that the article should never have been published in any scientific journal.

Within days, the Biological Society of Washington, intimidated by the response of the evolutionary defenders, released a statement apologizing for the publication of the article. According to the Chronicle of Higher Education, the society's governing council claimed that the article "was published without the prior knowledge of the council." The statement went on to declare: "We have met and determined that all of us would have deemed this paper inappropriate for the pages of the Proceedings." The society's president, Roy W. McDiarmid, a scientist at the U.S. Geological Survey, blamed the article's publication on the journal's previous editor, Richard Sternberg, who now serves as a fellow at the National Center for Biotechnology Information at the National Institute of Health. "My conclusion on this," McDiarmid said, "was that it was a really bad judgment call on the editor's part."

What is it about Dr. Stephen Meyer's paper that has caused such an uproar? Meyer, who holds a Ph.D. from Cambridge University, argued in his paper that the contemporary form of evolutionary theory now dominant in the academy, known as "Neo-Darwinism," fails to account for the development of higher life forms and the complexity of living organisms. Pointing to what evolutionists identify as the "Cambrian explosion," Meyer argued that "the geologically sudden appearance of many new animal body plans" cannot be accounted for by Darwinian theory, "neo" or otherwise.

Accepting the scientific claim that the Cambrian explosion took place "about 530 million years ago," Meyer went on to explain that the "remarkable jump in the specified complexity or 'complex specified information' [CSI] of the biological world" cannot be explained by evolutionary theory.

The heart of Dr. Meyer's argument is found in this scientifically-loaded passage: "Neo-Darwinism seeks to explain the origin of new information, form, and structure as a result of selection acting on randomly arising variation at a very low level within the biological hierarchy, mainly, within the genetic text. Yet the major morphological innovations depend on a specificity of arrangement at a much higher level of the organizational hierarchy, a level that DNA alone does not determine. Yet if DNA is not wholly responsible for body plan morphogenesis, then DNA sequences can mutate indefinitely, without regard to realistic probabilistic limits, and still not produce a new body plan. Thus, the mechanism of natural selection acting on random mutations in DNA cannot in principle generate novel body plans, including those that first arose in the Cambrian explosion."

In simpler terms, the mechanism of natural selection, central to evolutionary theory, cannot possibly account for the development of so many varied and complex life forms simply by mutations in DNA. Rather, some conscious design--thus requiring a Designer--is necessary to explain the emergence of these life forms.

In the remainder of his paper, Meyer attacks the intellectual inadequacies of evolutionary theory and argues for what is now known as the "design Hypothesis." As he argued, "Conscious and rational agents have, as a part of their powers of purposive intelligence, the capacity to design information-rich parts and to organize those parts into functional information-rich systems and hierarchies." As he went on to assert, "We know of no other causal entity or process that has this capacity." In other words, the development of the multitude of higher life forms found on the planet can be explained only by the guidance of a rational agent--a Designer--whose plan is evident in the design.

Meyer's article was enough to cause hysteria in the evolutionists' camp. Knowing that their theory lacks intellectual credibility, the evolutionists respond by raising the volume, offering the equivalent of scientific shrieks and screams whenever their cherished theory is criticized--much less in one of their own cherished journals. As Dr. John West, Associate Director of the Discovery Institute explained, "Instead of addressing the paper's argument or inviting counterarguments or rebuttal, the society has resorted to affirming what amounts to a doctrinal statement in an effort to stifle scientific debate. They're trying to stop scientific discussion before it even starts."

When the Biological Society of Washington issued its embarrassing apology for publishing the paper, the organization pledged that arguments for Intelligent Design "will not be addressed in future issues of the Proceedings," regardless of whether the paper passes peer review.

From the perspective of panicked evolutionists, the Intelligent Design movement represents a formidable adversary and a constant irritant. The defenders of Intelligent Design are undermining evolutionary theory at multiple levels, and they refuse to go away. The panicked evolutionists respond with name-calling, labeling Intelligent Design proponents as "creationists," thereby hoping to prevent any scientific debate before it starts.

Intelligent Design is not tantamount to the biblical doctrine of creation. Theologically, Intelligent Design falls far short of requiring any affirmation of the doctrine of creation as revealed in the Bible. Nevertheless, it is a useful and important intellectual tool, and a scientific movement with great promise. The real significance of Intelligent Design theory and its related movement is the success with which it undermines the materialistic and naturalistic worldview central to the theory of evolution.

For the Christian believer, the Bible presents the compelling and authoritative case for God's creation of the cosmos. Specifically, the Bible provides us with the ultimate truth concerning human origins and the special creation of human beings as the creatures made in God's own image. Thus, though we believe in more than Intelligent Design, we certainly do not believe in less. We should celebrate the confusion and consternation now so evident among the evolutionists. Dr. Stephen Meyer's article--and the controversy it has spawned--has caught evolutionary scientists with their intellectual pants down.

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R. Albert Mohler, Jr


TOPICS: Philosophy
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To: jwalsh07
Is it your opinion that no Christians word can be trusted? See #1211 (respose to my statement of concern) and my following response.
1,261 posted on 02/01/2005 12:56:34 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: WildTurkey
Interesting, that as a "Christian", you have no problem judging me and bearing false witness against me; particularly since you have been twice admonished for not reading the rest of the comments for which you would see the whole story.

You got the wrong kind of Christian. That little debating tactic doesn't work with me because though I do my best to be a good Christian, I've never learned to turn the other cheek or mince words. More a Christian soldier type. And so I'm a sinner but I'm striving to do better. :-}

I've judged, with no apology, that statement to be bigoted. I've asked you to retract it or explain it. You've done neither. Evidently, my initial judgment was correct.

It's "Chritians" like you that give Christianity a bad name.

You don't speak for Christians nor do you get the final judgment so you'll understand if I don't take your sophistry to heart.

1,262 posted on 02/01/2005 12:57:23 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: JeffAtlanta
Why then do other Christians in these threads sit back and not condemn fellow Christians that are dishonest or deceptive?

In a nutshell.


Somebody call for a Christian?

1,263 posted on 02/01/2005 1:01:50 PM PST by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: JeffAtlanta

That same poster started in this thread using entropy to debunk evolution. Even after several posters showed where her technical "misunderstandings" and misquoting the 2nd Law of thermodynamics were, she still attributes her misposts as "font errors" even though several errors were in normal English rather than mathematical symbolism. That other poster also support that lie by saying they "have read where (there are entropy concerns with evolution).


1,264 posted on 02/01/2005 1:02:26 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: jwalsh07
I've judged, with no apology, that statement to be bigoted. I've asked you to retract it or explain it. You've done neither.

Oh, but I have explained it. As I admonished you to read the thread three times.

Again you have made a false assumption and have beared false witness against me. Seems that that trait is part of your being a soldier? Now I know why the witches were burned ...

1,265 posted on 02/01/2005 1:05:46 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: balrog666
Is it any wonder that "liar" is the number one phrase to describe the anti-evos?

Before things get out of hand here, I know you're aware that "anti-evo" is not the same thing as "Christian," (despite their defamatory claims to the contrary). And many, perhaps most, muslims are also anti-evo. The creationists are a special sub-set of those groups.

1,266 posted on 02/01/2005 1:06:37 PM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: jwalsh07
You don't speak for Christians nor do you get the final judgment so you'll understand if I don't take your sophistry to heart.

Aren't you worried that the One that does get final judgement finds you commiting one of the deadly sins?

1,267 posted on 02/01/2005 1:07:08 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: WildTurkey
Again you have made a false assumption and have beared false witness against me. Seems that that trait is part of your being a soldier? Now I know why the witches were burned ...

LOL, more bigotry. I got your number pal.

1,268 posted on 02/01/2005 1:07:20 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: colorado tanker; All

"On the other hand, I don't think it necessarily follows that the only other explanation is design by a creator, I'm open to that but it strikes me as an unproven hypothesis. The creation of new species could also be the result of a biological process we don't yet understand, it seems to me."

Must have been the MONOLITH(Cuing organ, trumpets and Richard Straus's Thus Sprach Zarathustra)!


1,269 posted on 02/01/2005 1:08:02 PM PST by mdmathis6
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To: balrog666
Is it any wonder that "liar" is the number one phrase to describe the anti-evos?

Didn't take you long to jump on the bigot train.

1,270 posted on 02/01/2005 1:09:23 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: JeffAtlanta
That is what "Walking with Dinosaurs" did....

I didn't see the show, Jeff; but if they did what you describe, then one can't ask for more.

1,271 posted on 02/01/2005 1:11:15 PM PST by betty boop
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To: jwalsh07
WildTurkey wrote: [Interesting, that as a "Christian", you have no problem judging me and bearing false witness against me; particularly since you have been twice admonished for not reading the rest of the comments for which you would see the whole story.]

I've judged, with no apology, that statement to be bigoted. I've asked you to retract it or explain it. You've done neither.

He most certainly *has* explained it (see post #1214 for example, which came even before your original complaint to him in #1231). Thus his remark about how "you have been twice admonished for not reading the rest of the comments".

Evidently, my initial judgment was correct.

Evidently, then, your judgment needs work.

1,272 posted on 02/01/2005 1:11:17 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: jwalsh07
LOL, more bigotry. I got your number pal.

No. You excused your sinning based on being a "soldier" for God. That is how many innocent people were murdered .... in the name of God.

1,273 posted on 02/01/2005 1:11:20 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: jwalsh07
Didn't take you long to jump on the bigot train.

I knows 'em when I sees 'um.

Here's a clue: look in a mirror.

1,274 posted on 02/01/2005 1:11:52 PM PST by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: PatrickHenry
Before things get out of hand here, I know you're aware that "anti-evo" is not the same thing as "Christian," (despite their defamatory claims to the contrary). And many, perhaps most, muslims are also anti-evo. The creationists are a special sub-set of those groups.

Which is why I didn't use the term "Christian". Did I miss something in the air?

1,275 posted on 02/01/2005 1:14:25 PM PST by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: WildTurkey
"I made the mistake in believing the word of a Christian."

Would you like to clarify yourself here, pal?

1,276 posted on 02/01/2005 1:15:48 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: JeffAtlanta
Unfortunately her own formula resulted in a population of 19 trillion if a 6,000 year value was used.

Thank you for noticing. I posted the 19 trillion number and none of the creationists responded. When I asked for replies, I got silence, or "I'm too busy".

If exponential growth gives ridiculous numbers for both 6000 and 30,000 years, then something is wrong with the underlying assumptions.

Another clear case of creationists being able to do arithmetic, but unable to understand when and why.

Interestingly, it was the impossibility of exponentional population growth that started Darwin wondering about natural selection.

1,277 posted on 02/01/2005 1:16:42 PM PST by js1138
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To: Ichneumon; jwalsh07
It's amazing how many of these guys reject the bases of The Church or their pastor in their quest to be "a soldier for God".

Why are they members of their congregation when they reject The Church's position on evolution or their pastor's interpretations of the Bible?

1,278 posted on 02/01/2005 1:17:01 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: F16Fighter; WildTurkey
Would you like to clarify yourself here, pal?

He already has, keep reading the thread.

Admittedly, though it was worded tackily, and was was needlessly confrontational.

1,279 posted on 02/01/2005 1:18:42 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: mdmathis6
Dr Floyd: Don't suppose you have any idea what the damn thing is, huh?

Dr. Rolf Halvorsen: Wish to hell we did.

1,280 posted on 02/01/2005 1:19:37 PM PST by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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