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EURO LEADERS CLAIM LEAD OVER USA!
Drudge Report/AFP News ^ | 1/18/05 | AFP

Posted on 01/18/2005 7:23:13 AM PST by highimpact

Tuesday January 18, 10:44 PM Airbus unveils its superjumbo, European leaders hail lead over US

Airbus unveiled the world's biggest passenger jet in a glitzy ceremony in which the leaders of France, Britain, Germany and Spain hailed Europe's victory over the United States as the new king of the commercial skies.

The huge A380 superjumbo, which can carry up to 840 people on its two full decks, supersedes the ageing 747 by US rival Boeing as the biggest civilian aircraft ever made.

When it is put into service early next year, it will become the flagship of many airline fleets and offer unprecedented amenities on long-haul services, including, in some cases, gyms, bedrooms and bars.

For the countries which backed the 10.7-billion-euro (14-billion-dollar) development cost, the plane stood as a prominent symbol of European cooperation.

"Good old Europe has made this possible," German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder told a packed hall in Airbus's headquarters in Toulouse, southwest France.

That was a barely-veiled barb recalling the US dismissal of France, Germany and other EU states in 2003 as "Old Europe" because of their opposition to the war on Iraq.

Noel Forgeard, the French head of Airbus, made similar hints in his presentation of the A380 during a spectacle featuring computer graphics, atmospheric theme music and swirling colours.

"The European states -- so easily accused of weakness -- backed this fantastic challenge 35 years ago and have believed in the A380," he said.

The hubris on display was reinforced by recent figures showing that, for the second year running, Airbus has outsold Boeing and now holds some 57 percent of the world market for passenger aircraft.

The company, a majority owned subsidiary of the listed European Aerospace and Defence Company (with 20 percent in the hands of Britain's BAE Systems), forecasts that the A380 will extend that lead.

Thirteen airlines have already placed firm orders for 139 of the planes. Airbus calculates that by 2008 it will reach the break-even point of 250 A380s sold, and from that point it will turn out 35 of the aircraft per year to rising profits.

The catalogue price of the huge machine -- boasting a wingspan of 80 metres (262 feet), overall length of 73 metres (239 feet), height of 24 metres (79 feet) and maximum take-off weight of 560 tonnes -- is between 263 and 286 million dollars, though discounts are frequently applied.

French President Jacques Chirac called the project a "big success" and said: "We can, and we must, go further on this path of European construction so essential for growth and employment."

British Prime Minister Tony Blair said the plane was "the culmination of many years of hard work" and congratulated the workers across Europe who made it happen.

Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero said Europe was "unstoppable" when it pooled its efforts.

The plane, Zapatero said, "has turned this historic moment into a moment in which cooperation and globalisation are giving rise to more peace and justice."

The four EU leaders later lunched together, leaving industry VIPS to get close to the huge white plane sitting in its hangar.

Airline executives at the presentation were superlative in their praise, even though the A380 has yet to undergo test flights scheduled for March or April.

Richard Branson, the head of Britain's Virgin Atlantic, said his airline would pamper passengers on the six A380s ordered by including gyms, beauty parlours, bars -- and even casinos and double beds.

The last two features meant "you'll have at least two ways to get lucky on our flights," Branson joked.

The biggest buyer of the new plane is the Emirates airline, which has ordered 43. "The A380 will be the future of air travel," its chairman, Sheikh Ahmed bin Saeed Al-Maktoum, said.

Airbus's success with the A380 is raising hackles at Boeing, which has won relatively little interest in its own new offering, a long-range mid-size plane called the 7E7 Dreamliner.

A bruising dispute over state subsidies between Boeing and Airbus is currently the subject of tense negotiations which, if they fail at the end of a three-month deadline, will blow up into a full-blown arbitration case at the World Trade Organisation.


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To: JLS

Southwest Airlines seems to be doing just fine with their fleet of 737s.


61 posted on 01/18/2005 7:37:28 AM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: highimpact

Airbus A380, another failure to follow the French Concord SST.


62 posted on 01/18/2005 7:37:34 AM PST by Wiz
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To: highimpact
With the sales of the 7E7 not going so well, they may have to. The basic research has already been done and the airplane they came up with (The Blended Wing concept) not only would be cheaper to produce but safer to fly and compatible with existing airport facilities. Check this out:

Plus, the Blended Wing is way cool, IMHO. ;-)

63 posted on 01/18/2005 7:38:28 AM PST by Reaganesque
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To: highimpact

I've never figured out how the massive Airbus subsidies from European governments are allowable under WTO regulations. Anytime the U.S. government tries to slip in a subsidy for our industry, the Europeans scream and have it stopped and we're fined.


64 posted on 01/18/2005 7:38:39 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: highimpact

I've never figured out how the massive Airbus subsidies from European governments are allowable under WTO regulations. Anytime the U.S. government tries to slip in a subsidy for our industry, the Europeans scream and have it stopped and we're fined.


65 posted on 01/18/2005 7:38:43 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: highimpact

ROFLMAO

relatively new...what does the above mean?
[not a private post, sure there are others baffled]

Also, can anyone enlighten me on ROFL? Suspect it's not nice...


66 posted on 01/18/2005 7:39:12 AM PST by johnmilken
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To: highimpact
MOHAMMAD #1 (reading newspaper): Allah be praised! Look at this! They call it the A380 superjumbo!

MOHAMMAD #2 (looking up from checking MANPAD): Hey, that will be such an easy target!

67 posted on 01/18/2005 7:39:21 AM PST by isthisnickcool (What do they do in the mosque on days when the guys in the front row have gas?)
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To: highimpact

The market for a plane that can carry 850 people is not that big... Boeing already investigated this option and chose a different path.


68 posted on 01/18/2005 7:39:34 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Porterville

"What a bunch of sour grapes."

Nope. A plane this big is going to turn out to be very expensive to fly. Scaling up to reduce passenger prices only goes so far, but the fuel costs increase without limit as aircraft size increases.

Airbus just might have jumped the shark on this one.


69 posted on 01/18/2005 7:40:04 AM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Daus
It will be perfect for HAJJIs!.......
70 posted on 01/18/2005 7:41:12 AM PST by Red Badger (And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you FReep!........)
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To: highimpact
A boondoggle if I ever saw one. IMO this is beyond ridiculous. All previous postings regarding this have enumerated the amplification of incidental problems associated with travel on the behemoth. Toilets, baggage, loading time, unloading time. gate accomodations, shoulder fired rockets, ect., ect.

Besides which these morons have the U.S Goverment and the private Corporation Boeing confused. To their way of thinking, it's natural for a government to be involved in Free enterprise.

71 posted on 01/18/2005 7:41:22 AM PST by Banjoguy (The party of Democrats is not democratic.)
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To: X-Servative

Just lacks the Leonardo De Crappio hood ornament.


72 posted on 01/18/2005 7:41:36 AM PST by Dead Dog
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To: highimpact

Like high schools, airplanes are not always BETTER if they are BIGGER.....yeah, just what I'd want to do....spend a few hours crammed in a flying metal tube with 838 other people!....NOT!


73 posted on 01/18/2005 7:41:41 AM PST by goodnesswins (Tax cuts, Tax reform, social security reform, Supreme Court, etc.....the next 4 years.....)
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To: highimpact
Ditto, Bigger is not always better, particularly today. In fact many leading technology developments are focused on the smallest, including integrated chip circuits, medical techniques, and nano technology.
74 posted on 01/18/2005 7:41:42 AM PST by cheme
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To: ddantas
850 people crammed into a box.

850 smelly Frenchies and and loud Germans.

75 posted on 01/18/2005 7:41:44 AM PST by Mike Darancette (MESOCONS FOR RICE '08)
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To: Reaganesque

Yes very cool.


76 posted on 01/18/2005 7:42:14 AM PST by marty60
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To: Mike Darancette

My point exactly.


77 posted on 01/18/2005 7:42:55 AM PST by marty60
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To: jimbo123

"Titanic or Hingenberg...."

Arian 5


78 posted on 01/18/2005 7:44:31 AM PST by Dead Dog
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To: highimpact
As horrible as it sounds, Al Qaeda is likely looking at this as 840 infidels in a $280M flying missile. Kill the program and AQ gets the "bonus" impact of the EU wasting $14Bn in development costs.
79 posted on 01/18/2005 7:44:58 AM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: bmwcyle
Wait until on of these planes(God Forbid) drops out of the sky.

------------------------------------------------

Just a bigger target.

80 posted on 01/18/2005 7:45:09 AM PST by wtc911 ("I would like at least to know his name.")
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