Ole de Cafe!
Posted on 01/13/2005 8:33:37 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
ATLANTA (AP) -- Federal judge rules the evolution disclaimer stickers placed inside Cobb County science textbooks are unconsitutional.
I'll stick with the logical exlanation - God created the heavens and the earth. All creation is tetstimony to His existance.
That is exactly correct. But I would go even further and say that ID is anethema to the very idea of faith and reveals people to hold a very fragile form of faith. One cannot look to science to verify one's faith. It is an insult to religion to do so. And to come up with something, like ID, for which no evidence can be found, and equate it with something legitimate like evolution, is an insult to science.
The big whoop is that there shall be no other God before the state mandated god of secularism and atheism.
If truth is out there, and you find it, by necessity you will become closed minded. To remain open-minded is to every new and competing idea is to have little confidence in the one you have. To expect to remain open-minded is to say that the truth is unknowable.
I'm not saying that you can't openly approach new ideas and critically examine them. I'm saying, once I know God, it's kind of ridiculous to expect me to be open to the idea that God might not be.
Evolutionists want to believe they have truth in evolution and they are closed minded to Creation, and Intelligent Design as a result.
So if my religion belives that the earth is the center of the universe, then schools are justified in putting a sticker on a science book that says, "This textbook contains material on heliocentrism. Heliocentrism is a theory, not a fact, regarding the structure of the universe. This material should be approached with an open mind, studied carefully and critically considered. Or similarly for any number of potential crackpot ideas like belief in a flat earth or the nonexistence of atoms? What can we teach children in science? Evolution has as much evidence and fact behind it as just about any other scientific theory you'd care to name. It's misleading to have a sticker that suggests otherwise because of the religious beliefs of some people.
"Who created the mass of the universe?"
To me, this is the big question that is unanswered by both ideas.
Evolution just assumes that it's there (initial mass in the universe) without giving an answer as to how it got there.
Creationism just says "Well, God always was and always will be", which flies in the face of the Law of Conservation of Mass. How did God arrive? From where did He get the initial mass of the universe from? The answer of "He always was" just doesn't cut it for minds seeking answers and truth, nor does evolution's failure to address this.
Frankly, I don't see this question ever being answered satisfactorily by either side.
"Uh... that's café au lait. It means "coffee with milk"." Cafe Ole is a phrase frquently screamed at bull fights when the coffee vendors are slow in comming around with the hot coffee while, at the same time, the Matador is making a great pass. Most frequently heard in Argentine bullfights and seldom, if ever, heard in Mexico. Sometimes heard at Spanish bull fights, but with less enthusiasm than the screamers in Argentina.
Actually, there is no scientific evidence that would make evolution a law. Laws are not the result of the finding of an increased amount of evidence for a theory. Laws are a different type of statement than theories. Put most simply, laws describe, theories explain. Laws are a shorthand way of summarizing observed data, as well as a way to predict the result of observations that haven't been made. Think of the law of gravity, for example. It states that there's an attractive force between two bodies that is proportional to the mass of the bodies and inversely proportional to the square of the distance separating them. It therefore does two things. It gives a concise way to summarize a large number of observations, and it gives a way to determine the attrative force between two bodies without actually measuring that force. What it fails to do is explain why there's a force and why that force has the value it has. That job would be accomplished by a theory of gravity. The currently accepted theory of gravity is Einstein's theory of general relativity. In addition to providing an explanation for gravity, it also showed that the law of gravity actually doesn't give the correct answers for certain observations under a small set of circumstances. Thus, we see that a theory has corrected a law, not something you'd expect to happen if laws really were just theories that were bolstered by additional evidence.
I am not sure if heliocentrism is a scientific theory. It is rather a naive popular idea at times associated with some pagan cults. Unless by the "heliocentrism" you mean the claim that using the Sun (rather then the Earth) as a point of reference simplifies the calculation of the movements of planets.
Still why adding such sticker would be harmful? At worst it would create some lively debate in the classroom. Much more harmful are the ANTI-scientific and immoral claims inserted into school programs by the militant secularists that pederasty is a good life style.
It's misleading to have a sticker that suggests otherwise because of the religious beliefs of some people.
But my friend the VERY reason why the secularists try to bash the "religious right" with the celebration of pederasty and elevating the vulgarized theory of evolution (most of secularists do not understand it) to the level of dogma are their religious(atheistic) views!
Wow, you win the out-of-context award for the day from my perspective.
I am referring to heliocentrism as the scientific theory that the sun is the center of the solar system. I could equally well have used any of numerous other examples of scientific ideas that could be equally well treated this way. The point is that, in a science class, we should teach children what the accepted theories in science are, not what every different religious group believes. The harm comes from the lack of understanding of science that is cultivated in students by the suggestion that scientific theories have equivalent basis in fact to every single religious belief that's out there. That would do pretty much the same thing to science in this country that the official rejection of Mendelian genetics did to the state of biology study in the Soviet Union. All I am asking for is that science be the subject taught in science classes, not religious ideas.
"This textbook contains material on evolution. Evolution is a theory, not a fact, regarding the origin of living things. This material should be approached with an open mind, studied carefully and critically considered."
I am not a scientist, nor will I ever be, but I do know that the idea that this universe had no intelligent beginning takes a whole lot more faith and denial of empirical evidence, than does the idea that this intricate perfection required a designer.
You may not call that science, but it's evident to everyone who honestly looks at what's out there.......and inside us.
Yes, if they did that, I would have no problem with it. The problem comes when, for religious reasons, one particular scientific theory is singled out.
You mean the perfection of having an organ such as the appendix that serves no apparent function, but can become infected and cause death? Or the perfection of having photoreceptors in the eye facing the wrong direction so that there's a blind spot at the point where the optic nerve is attached to the retina? This is a perfection, by the way, that is not shared by squids, so which one is actually "perfect?" Or maybe it's the perfection of having a missing gene that's present in the genome of all non-primates that allows them to synthesize vitamin C?
BTW...these are just a few of the "perfections" in HUMAN design. I am sure there are other "perfections" to be found if we consider the design of other organisms.
My opinion:
Stop spending my *#%!@#@ tax dollars for something so insignificant!
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