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Chiropractic school angers FSU professors
St. Petersburg Times ^ | December 29, 2004 | By RON MATUS, Times Staff Writer

Posted on 01/01/2005 7:13:21 AM PST by aculeus

Some threaten to resign over the proposed school.

A growing number of professors in the Florida State University College of Medicine are saying they will resign if FSU administrators continue to pursue a proposed chiropractic school.

"I would no longer wish to volunteer my teaching energies to FSU medical school, should it encompass a school of chiropractic," wrote Dr. Ian Rogers, an assistant professor at FSU's Pensacola campus, in a Dec. 15 e-mail. "This is plainly ludicrous!!!!"

The threatened resignations - at least seven to date, all from assistant professors who work part time - reflect a belief among many in the medical establishment that chiropractic is a "pseudo-science" that leads to unnecessary and sometimes harmful treatments. Professors are even circulating a parody map of campus that places a fictional Bigfoot Institute, School of Astrology and Crop Circle Simulation Laboratory near a future chiropractic school.

But the professors' stance has a political aim, too.

Opposition is clearly mounting as the chiropractic school heads for crucial votes in January before the FSU board of trustees and the state Board of Governors.

In fact, the school is now seen as a test case for the fledgling Board of Governors, which critics have accused of kowtowing to Gov. Jeb Bush and the Legislature on the higher education issues it is supposed to oversee.

FSU was closed for the holidays Tuesday. FSU president T.K. Wetherell, provost Larry Abele and John Thrasher, chairman of the FSU board of trustees, could not be reached for comment.

But Sen. Dennis Jones, the Treasure Island Republican who spearheaded legislative support for the school in the spring, said the professors were "overreacting."

He accused anti-chiropractic groups from outside the state of stirring faculty opposition at FSU.

"If they resign, so be it," said Jones, a chiropractor himself. The instructors don't deserve to teach at FSU, he said, "if they're putting their credentials with people known for promoting professional bigotry."

The Legislature appropriated $9-million annually for the chiropractic school, which was pushed by Jones and then-Senate President Jim King, R-Jacksonville, an FSU graduate. It would be the only school of its kind in the country.

As supporters envision it, more than 100 new faculty members would train legions of chiropractors, with a special emphasis on Hispanic and African-American students. The school would also draw lucrative federal grants in alternative medicine.

Planning began years ago, but criticism didn't ramp up until after the legislative session.

Some opponents see the school as an end run around the Board of Governors, which oversees the state's 11 universities but has yet to consider the chiropractic school. Last week, a group headed by former university system chancellor E.T. York filed a lawsuit against the board, accusing it of failing to flex its constitutionally granted muscle and pointing to the chiropractic school as a prime example.

But some FSU faculty members are upset, too, fearing the school will shatter FSU's academic reputation. The list of critics include FSU's two Nobel laureates - Robert Schreiffer, a physicist, and Harold Walter Kroto, a chemist - and Robert Holton, the chemistry professor who developed the cancer-fighting drug Taxol, which has brought FSU tens of millions of dollars in royalties.

In recent weeks, more than 500 faculty members have signed petitions against the chiropractic school, including about 70 in the medical college, said Dr. Raymond Bellamy, an assistant professor who is leading the charge against the proposal. The medical college has more than 100 faculty members.

Some of them say they're willing to do more than sign a petition.

"I teach wonderful medical students from Florida State University here in Orlando," Dr. James W. Louttit wrote in an e-mail to Bellamy, who shared it with the St. Petersburg Times. "If they decide to start a chiropractic school I would no longer be able to support this program."

"It should come as no surprise that no major medical institution in this country, public or private, has embraced chiropractic medicine," wrote Dr. Henry Ho, a Winter Park physician and FSU assistant professor, in another e-mail. "If Florida State University were to do so, its fledgling attempt for credibility as a medical institution of stature would be severely jeopardized."

The situation at FSU isn't the first time chiropractors have sought to tie themselves to an established university.

In the late 1990s, faculty at York University in Toronto - one of Canada's largest schools - considered plans to affiliate with Canadian Memorial Chiropractic College. The plan would have brought York millions of dollars in new facilities and donations and given the chiropractic school academic credibility.

After a bitter, years-long fight, York faculty narrowly vetoed the plan in 2001.

At FSU, faculty have not officially voiced their concerns about the chiropractic school. Bellamy said they fear retaliation from lawmakers if they do.

"Everybody wants somebody else to kill it," he said.

Ron Matus can be reached at 727 893-8873 or

matus@sptimes.com

© Copyright 2003 St. Petersburg Times. All rights reserved


TOPICS: Extended News; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: academia; chiropractic; fsu; health; healthcare
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Comment #181 Removed by Moderator

To: aculeus

Still more academically rigorous than Sociology.


182 posted on 01/01/2005 10:46:47 AM PST by AmishDude (Official pseudo-Amish mathematician of FreeRepublic.)
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To: aculeus

*snicker*


183 posted on 01/01/2005 10:48:22 AM PST by kstewskis (Political correctness is intellectual terrorism.......M Gibson)
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To: cyborg

Ha! A flavored enema franchise.


184 posted on 01/01/2005 10:50:01 AM PST by Rebelbase (Who is General Chat?)
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To: All

I find it truly bizarre that a university would actually oppose the potential expansion of alumni donors and graduates.


185 posted on 01/01/2005 10:50:37 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Grendel9

you could get it in 6 months.

Accredited Chiropractic schools are 6 years + internship. med school is four + internship.


186 posted on 01/01/2005 10:51:03 AM PST by Dasaji (WOO HOO!!!! 4 More Years!! - HEY! Become a FreeRepublic Monthly Donor!)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Oh this is nothing. You should have seen the flaming I got on an eco-Nazi thread about a week ago!


187 posted on 01/01/2005 10:52:21 AM PST by GVnana (If I had a Buckhead moment would I know it?)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Shortly after taking it to the body shop I started getting calls from lawyers and chiropractors. Sheesh...

Wow! Now that's low.

I never thought of the body shop-lawyer-chiro triangle.

I'm sure insurance companies would be glad to investigate them.

188 posted on 01/01/2005 10:54:22 AM PST by kstewskis (Political correctness is intellectual terrorism.......M Gibson)
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To: aculeus
Chiropractors actually know how to touch people and make them feel better, whereas MDs don't like getting their hands dirty actually touching patients.

MDs would much rather cut you open or give you a permanent prescription to a patented drug, for which they get a disguised (just enough to keep it from being illegal) kickback from the drug company.

The only thing that bothers me about Chiropractors is that many of them, instead of just treating your immeditate problem, want to take an X-Ray of your back and enroll you in a never-ending regimen of spinal realignment or some such scam.

189 posted on 01/01/2005 10:58:49 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: Dasaji
Accredited Chiropractic schools are 6 years + internship. med school is four + internship.

Completely bogus. Chiropractic requires a HS degree + chiropractic school.

Medical doctor = 4 years pre-med college + 4 years med school + 1 year Internship + 3 years residency + Board Certification exam + Re-certification exam every 10 years!

190 posted on 01/01/2005 10:59:15 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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To: thombo

clothing optional.

Hers or yours???


191 posted on 01/01/2005 11:07:07 AM PST by Dasaji (WOO HOO!!!! 4 More Years!! - HEY! Become a FreeRepublic Monthly Donor!)
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To: cyborg
I prefer my chiropactic coffee enemas Mocha Java double latte.

Seriously though these things spread amebiasis (fatal amoeba infections which kill the liver).

192 posted on 01/01/2005 11:07:58 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
www.quackwatch.com
193 posted on 01/01/2005 11:08:50 AM PST by eartotheground (trial lawyers are destroying the medical industry)
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To: suijuris

"The only answer the MDs could provide was anit-depresants and pain killers. They never wanted to consider the source of my problems and ignored what I was trying to tell them."

Exactly. The first few times I had spasms, I ended up in Emergency Rooms because I had no idea what was going on, either. I was always, always hale and hardy; no sickness or injury other than a common cold and one bout of flu in my entire adult life.

I remember walking out of Emergency (after being carried in by my DH, as I could not walk on my own) after being pumped full of Demerol, and thinking, "This feels nice, but I really shouldn't be walking, and shouldn't I be able to feel my legs?"

I finally listened to my Mother and got myself to a Chiropractor. I now have bad episodes maybe once a year, tops, and it's usually my own fault (as you said) because I didn't listen to my body!


194 posted on 01/01/2005 11:09:16 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: longtermmemmory

Ah...didn't know that but it makes sense.


195 posted on 01/01/2005 11:10:26 AM PST by Pharmboy (Listen...you can still hear the old media sobbing.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

I've never had colonic irrigation done. Most colon therapists use the same tools as tattoo artists which is to say single use sterilized equipment. If you visit someone with questionable qualifications sure you can get something nasty. There was a guy arrested once for performing weird exams on women. I wonder if he did colonics too! LOL


196 posted on 01/01/2005 11:10:33 AM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Yossarian
But don't get hooked in to the Chiropracty Scam - they have no way of even SEEING (with real medical technology) what's wrong with you!

This is incorrect. There are many recent advances in technology that allow the Chiro to look at a person's atlas from every angle. Many Chiros have advanced engineering degrees and are published in medical journals.

You bias is showing.

197 posted on 01/01/2005 11:12:49 AM PST by Michael_Michaelangelo (The best theory is not ipso facto a good theory.)
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To: ukie
http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/chirostroke.html
198 posted on 01/01/2005 11:14:02 AM PST by eartotheground (trial lawyers are destroying the medical industry)
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To: Pharmboy

Nothing personal doc but this whole post is completely darwinian. I will bet that in your little cliche there can be good and bad astrologers. One just needs to find a reputable astrologer.
I too used to refer patients to a chiropractor once I was sure there was nothing organic. It kept the chronic pain
head cases out of the office. The only warning is KEEP THEM
AWAY FROM YOUR NECK.


199 posted on 01/01/2005 11:16:43 AM PST by Shisan ("The law is the true embodiment of everything that's excellent...")
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To: Shisan
Nope..sorry to prove you wrong but I do not believe that the position of planets at the time of one's bith has anything whatsoever to do with them as a person. How you could think that from what I have said is quite beyond my comprehension. You should keep an open mind and not pre-judge as much as you apparently do.

Nothing personal, just an observation based on what you have said.

200 posted on 01/01/2005 11:20:36 AM PST by Pharmboy (Listen...you can still hear the old media sobbing.)
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