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Studies on Painkillers In Jeopardy
The Washington Post ^ | December 26, 2004 | Rob Stein

Posted on 12/26/2004 8:16:14 AM PST by neverdem

Researchers Assess Risk-Benefit Ratio

The spate of bad news about painkillers has dealt a major setback to what had been a highly promising effort to use the drugs to prevent a host of leading killers, including many types of cancer, Alzheimer's and other forms of dementia.

Since concerns emerged that drugs such as Vioxx and Celebrex might cause heart attacks and strokes, researchers testing the drugs in dozens of studies have been frantically scouring whatever data they have gathered so far for signs of danger, urgently debating whether the trials should continue, and quickly informing participants of possible risks.

Several large studies have shut down fully or partially, including trials for preventing colon cancer, prostate cancer, Alzheimer's and, just last week, two large international studies evaluating Celebrex to cut the risk of getting breast cancer or suffering a recurrence. Other studies have been temporarily suspended until all participants could be warned of the possible danger.

Overall, the startling new concerns about the drugs' safety have cast a pall over what had been one of the most exciting fields of biomedical research, which was trying to harness important new insights into the underlying cause of a wide spectrum of illnesses.

"It's definitely been a big setback," said Raymond N. DuBois of Vanderbilt University School of Medicine in Nashville. "It's really disappointing because there had been a lot of enthusiasm in this area, and a lot of trials were underway. I think this is going to slow things down considerably. It's really unfortunate."

The developments are particularly distressing because a large body of evidence indicates the drugs could provide significant benefits aside from relieving pain. Even the studies that revealed the possible heart disease and stroke risks produced evidence that the approach could be highly effective for reducing the risk for cancer.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Technical; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: alzheimers; cancer; celebrex; cox2inhibitors; dementia; healthcare; painkillers; painmanagement; pharmaceuticals; vioxx
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1 posted on 12/26/2004 8:16:14 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Pain is ONE thing.....getting to the BOTTOM of WHERE the pain originates is another.....I know....I'm in that process....it ain't fun....BUT, I refuse to listen much to the allopathic docs who just push drugs - as their solutions are sometimes worse than nothing.....I WANT to know WHY there is a PROBLEM, and get rid of THAT problem! (Right now I'm working with enzymes among other things.)


2 posted on 12/26/2004 8:20:59 AM PST by goodnesswins (Tax cuts, Tax reform, social security reform, Supreme Court, etc.....the next 4 years.....)
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To: neverdem
Alex, I'll take painkillers for $100.


3 posted on 12/26/2004 8:21:44 AM PST by MaryFromMichigan (We childproofed our home, but they are still getting in)
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To: MaryFromMichigan
Alex, I'll take painkillers for $100.

Answer: This drug used for rheumatoid arthritis can increase your risk of malignant lymphoma by 71%, and can also reactivate dormant tuberculosis infections.

Question: What is Remicade.

4 posted on 12/26/2004 8:56:59 AM PST by SC DOC
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To: SC DOC

YEP.....THAT'S why I'm looking at alternatives....I've been diagnosed with R/A....and the Rheumy doc would just LOVE to give me some of the drugs out there.....NO WAY!


5 posted on 12/26/2004 8:58:15 AM PST by goodnesswins (Tax cuts, Tax reform, social security reform, Supreme Court, etc.....the next 4 years.....)
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To: El Gato; JudyB1938; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Robert A. Cook, PE; lepton; LadyDoc; jb6; tiamat; PGalt; ..

FReepmail me if you want on or off my health and science ping list.


6 posted on 12/26/2004 9:00:18 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: goodnesswins

BUMP


7 posted on 12/26/2004 9:01:54 AM PST by SweetCaroline (Whenever the devil reminds you of your past, remind him of his future -REV 20:10)
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To: neverdem
I have since heard more details on the studies that were done.

Seems the participants in this study were over the age of 70, and already had succeptibility to heart trouble.
My question is: Why were these facts left out of the original story?

8 posted on 12/26/2004 9:32:14 AM PST by concretebob (If you won't defend my liberty, who's gonna defend yours?)
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To: goodnesswins

Pain killers are bad because they mask the symtoms and allow you to ignore the cure.

But here we are talking about anti inflamatories which in many cases is the cure.


9 posted on 12/26/2004 10:23:37 AM PST by staytrue
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To: concretebob

The ambiguities of a particular drugs effect upon body systems must be weighed in any given patient circumstance. Aspirin is also a COX inhibitor, yet it is used extensively to "prevent" heart attacks. Theoreticaly there are anticoagulant effects of COX1 inhibitors, and pro-coagulant effects from COX2 inhibitor. Although minor, they show up when examining large groups of people. It is important not to ban a drug for this, but that the physician keep this in mind when selecting a COX inhibitor for a patient in need.
And by the way, the main reason drug costs are so high is that they are out of the capitalist system. The answer is to put (almost) all non-controlled substances OVER THE COUNTER... as in most other countries. Doctors would still be needed, and the prices of the drugs (d/t competition) would plummet.


10 posted on 12/26/2004 10:24:45 AM PST by krinkrayyado
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To: goodnesswins
I too looked at the prescription arthritis medicine and realized their side affects out weighed any minor relief they may give. I've been using glucosamine variations for about ten years and have been pleased with the results. Still some pain & stiffness, but nothing like I had. Presently using Next Level liquid.

Any results of your search you can pass on?
11 posted on 12/26/2004 10:32:41 AM PST by Cold Heart
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To: concretebob

I can't answer your question about the tests. However, my wife and some of her co-workers aged in 40's & 50's were showing heart problem symptoms on Vioxx.


12 posted on 12/26/2004 10:35:59 AM PST by Cold Heart
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To: staytrue

YES, inflamation is a major part of my problem....which is also what Naproxen really helps with, but it also can burn a hole in your stomach. I probably have "leaky gut syndrome" I believe.....so am trying to approach "cure" from THAT standpoint.


13 posted on 12/26/2004 10:51:52 AM PST by goodnesswins (Tax cuts, Tax reform, social security reform, Supreme Court, etc.....the next 4 years.....)
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To: Cold Heart

I am in the beginnings of all this (past 6 months).....right now am trying wobenyzm N (enzyme) and doxycycline......have added gluc chondroiton occasionally, but with so many pills it sometimes doesn't make it. What is "next level?" All I could find in a cursory google search is an animal medicine.....I am also beginning a total vegetable/small amount of fruit diet.....well, trying to.....with problems I've had over the years, it seems like my intestines must be the issue (asthma type stuff, nasal polyps, colon polyps, food allergies, etc.) I'm reading a lot on Dr. Mercola's website too....if you haven't seen it, you might be interested.


14 posted on 12/26/2004 10:57:14 AM PST by goodnesswins (Tax cuts, Tax reform, social security reform, Supreme Court, etc.....the next 4 years.....)
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To: neverdem

Please put me on your list--my next book is going to be about health care and how lay-people can be proactive in their health care, determine alternatives to drugs when appropriate, figure out what the 'studies' mean, etc.

Much interesting info in this article!


15 posted on 12/26/2004 12:44:43 PM PST by homemom (Check out my updated website at www.homeiswherethemomis.com--the PERFECT gift for any mom!)
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To: neverdem
I hooked up with the research hospital a little too late for the Celebrex study for people who already have cancer. Was able to get into another study for a drug that now has orphan drug status in the EU and USA for treating Kidney cancer, Bay 43-9006. It seems that a protein system goes wild in many cancers, and this drug shuts that pathway. I'm in a thyroid cancer study.
16 posted on 12/26/2004 2:19:42 PM PST by DmBarch
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To: goodnesswins

Well, I buy Next Level by the quart ($39) and it does say equine on the bottle. Mail order or feed store, your choice. Occasionally I have to share it with one of our horses.They have the same stuff in capsules for humans but costs more (I visualize tiny little funnels, tiny little hands into little capsules). On line or health food store for these guys.

Next Level: Per Oz. (daily horse maintenance level, teaspoon works for me)
Glucosamine 5000 mg
MSM 1750 mg
Ester C 1000 mg
Perna Mussel 3.5 mg
Shark Cartilage 14.5 mg
Bromelain 37 mg
(an ezyme, aids absorbtion)


17 posted on 12/26/2004 3:51:28 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: Cold Heart

Hmmm.....did you say you had RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS? Or some other kind? Just wondering......told my husband about your medicine....he said...."better keep that info." I'll check with my wholistic doc and see what he says. LOL.


18 posted on 12/26/2004 6:47:03 PM PST by goodnesswins (Tax cuts, Tax reform, social security reform, Supreme Court, etc.....the next 4 years.....)
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To: goodnesswins

My son is on disability, he is so crippled up with RA. One thing he's learned is to completely eliminate all night shades from his diet, including tomatoes and peppers. When he does eat one of them, he sure suffers from it.


19 posted on 12/26/2004 6:47:31 PM PST by JudyB1938 ("A paranoid schizophrenic is somebody who just found out what's going on." - Wm S. Burroughs, Jr.)
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To: JudyB1938

Yes, I have heard that.....just had fish soup for dinner with TOMATOES and RED peppers......I've also heard that it's an old wives tale, but I'm inclined to believe people when they say it works for them......I'll try it. Thanks.


20 posted on 12/26/2004 6:50:38 PM PST by goodnesswins (Tax cuts, Tax reform, social security reform, Supreme Court, etc.....the next 4 years.....)
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