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GOP VOTERS STILL WANT GIULIANI FOR PREZ: POLL
New York Post ^ | 12/17/04 | IAN BISHOP

Posted on 12/16/2004 11:18:44 PM PST by kattracks

WASHINGTON — The stink of Bernard Kerik's rotten bid to become homeland security czar hasn't stuck to his chief cheerleader, Rudy Giuliani, who is a top pick for the presidency among Republicans, a new poll shows.

A whopping 68 percent of Republican voters want to see Giuliani run for the White House in 2008, according to a new Quinnipiac University poll — showing little fallout among the party base in the wake of Kerik's embarrassing exit.

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And it shows that if party faithful get their way, Giuliani would face off against Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton in an Empire State showdown — which Giuliani would win, 45 percent to 43 percent.

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Although she's a favorite among Dems, 50 percent of all voters don't want to see the former first lady run for the White House.


(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: bill1952

You're welcome. I didn't know him personally, though many here did, but from reading his posts and comments from those who did know him, he was real man, a real patriot, and a real class act who passed on way too early.

Yorktown could be the USS Yorktown, but I always assumed it to refer to the American victory over the British.


241 posted on 12/20/2004 10:54:29 PM PST by Badray (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown. RIP harpseal.)
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To: Brett S281E

Thanks. Some call me a purist, but I prefer hardhead, er, I mean hardliner. ;-)


242 posted on 12/20/2004 10:55:44 PM PST by Badray (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown. RIP harpseal.)
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To: Chunga
"Why not Santorum?"

Better yet, WHY Santorum? Why would you want to promote a party hack whose stated values mean nothing to him when he has the chance to advance himself instead?

He supported his ideological opponent (Specter) instead of his (supposed) ideological soulmate (Toomey) because his advancement was more important to him than the values that he claims to support. Santorum would sell us out in a minute.

243 posted on 12/20/2004 11:07:14 PM PST by Badray (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown. RIP harpseal.)
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To: Fishrrman
In the presidential election of 2028, the Republican Party platform will likely not even _have_ a plank on abortion. If it still _does_, it will state that the party disapproves of abortion, but leaves the decision to individual conscience.

I suspect you will be correct...especially if the party figureheads keep kowtowing to RINOs. Hell, if this crap keeps up, the party will probably be caving on gay marriage, sweeping gun bans, and "appreciation" of dhimmitude.

244 posted on 12/20/2004 11:16:18 PM PST by Prime Choice (Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! ...And no, my powers can only be used for Good.)
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To: chemainus

Well, I'm shaking in my boots because of this one lousy poll a full three years before Iowa and New Hampshire. We just won an election with the largest number of votes ever given to a presidential candidate, we held onto the U.S House for the sixth consecutive congressional term and added five seats to our margin in the U.S. Senate. Forgive me if I'm not about to subscribe to this "sky is falling" mentality, but I'm going to enjoy my holidays and save time for sweating these absurd public opinion polls till about a week before Election Day 2008 when they may have a shred of significance.


245 posted on 12/20/2004 11:26:31 PM PST by mull
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To: mull

Hell given Rudy's past with Cancer he stands a good chance of not even being alive in 4 years. The same goes for McCain and Kerry who also have cancer problems. This idiocy with 2008 polls is too stupid for even the media.


246 posted on 12/20/2004 11:29:49 PM PST by Texasforever (It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chew your butt out all day long.)
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To: oceanview

Ye of little faith...how do we know at this early stage that there is no Ronald Reagan warming up in the bullpen? There are a number of fine GOP Governors (Pawlenty, Sanford, Barbour) and Senators (Brownback, Allen, Graham) who with a little more seasoning could be outstanding candidates four years from now. Now I'm not saying that any one of these candidates is the next Ronald Reagan. What I am saying is that over the next four years, for the first time in recent GOP history, we are going to have a wide open, contested nomination. There will undoubtedly be many voices heard from all corners of our party. Let's resist the temptation to jump on these early public opinion polls before this process has a chance to play out. One thing we can be assured of is that the eventual GOP candidate will emerge from this process with a solid 45% or more of public support and enough resources to be very competitive in the next election.


247 posted on 12/20/2004 11:37:23 PM PST by mull
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To: Texasforever

I just think we'd all be well served by taking a step back from the edge of the cliff. Take time to relish in the hard fought victory we've earned and prepare for the challenges to come. But to sit here, four years out and throw up all or nothing propositions like "we'd better support Rudy, or Hillary wins" is absolutely asinine. These must be the same people who were panicking when Zogby released his final polls on Election Day.


248 posted on 12/20/2004 11:43:27 PM PST by mull
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To: mull
If history holds it will be another Governor nominated. Senators just do not make it to the presidency. Kerry would agree with me on that one.
249 posted on 12/20/2004 11:47:24 PM PST by Texasforever (It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chew your butt out all day long.)
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To: Texasforever

We have this guy here named Pawlenty that could probably attract voters from various demographics. Maybe you should give him a try.


250 posted on 12/20/2004 11:52:32 PM PST by TypeZoNegative (Isn't it ironic that the spleen, most useless organ in our body is also on the left side of our body)
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To: TypeZoNegative

The name doesn't ring a bell. The thing is that it is at least 2 1/2 years before we get a sense of where or who primary candidates are emerging. You never know where they may come from. Someone from the Cabinet may make their mark. Who knows?


251 posted on 12/20/2004 11:56:51 PM PST by Texasforever (It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chew your butt out all day long.)
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To: Texasforever

I'd agree with you on that. At last count we have close to thirty of them to choose from, some a little less palatable than others.


252 posted on 12/20/2004 11:58:39 PM PST by mull
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To: Texasforever

True enough. Back in 1996, even with his father's last name, George W. Bush was barely a blip on the political radar screen. Four years later he is on his way to two terms in the White House.

I hope sometime soon we can take our fingers off the Hillary Panic Button.


253 posted on 12/21/2004 12:02:19 AM PST by mull
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To: mull

I want Hillary to run so bad I can taste it. Hell I would contribute to her campaign.


254 posted on 12/21/2004 12:03:25 AM PST by Texasforever (It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chew your butt out all day long.)
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To: Texasforever

That makes two of us. Glad to know there will be someone else not cowering in the corner when the vaunted Hillary/Richardson ticket appears. If only we could be so lucky! Does anyone really think that we are going to forget Hillary's pathetic attempt at socialized medicine?


255 posted on 12/21/2004 12:07:35 AM PST by mull
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To: mull
I will guarantee you that the first woman or black president will be a Republican. The democrats bench in that area is entirely off the charts liberal.
256 posted on 12/21/2004 12:09:52 AM PST by Texasforever (It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chew your butt out all day long.)
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To: Texasforever

Of course we can expect Hillary to do her very best to color herself Republican in the run-up to '08. She can try all she wants - she has eight years of White House baggage to carry around. The only way we can lose to Hillary is if we nominate some Republican Lite candidate because Hillary will try to blur the differences and then all bets are off.


257 posted on 12/21/2004 12:14:26 AM PST by mull
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To: Texasforever

Pawlenty is Minnesota's governer. He managed to make a pledge of no new taxes in Liberalsota and keep it. He's also very pro life and he has a golden tounge. He's the fiscal and social conservative that we've been looking for.

Not to mention too, he's not too bad on the eyes (Not that I'm gay or anything.)


258 posted on 12/21/2004 12:47:04 AM PST by TypeZoNegative (Isn't it ironic that the spleen, most useless organ in our body is also on the left side of our body)
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To: TypeZoNegative

Sounds like a good possibility. Thanks


259 posted on 12/21/2004 12:50:21 AM PST by Texasforever (It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chew your butt out all day long.)
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To: oceanview

add INNOVATION AND FORWARD THINKING within the framework of all that is right with Western (Greco-Roman-Judeo-Christian-Northern European) Civilization

i.e. "values" framework


260 posted on 12/21/2004 4:08:10 AM PST by chemainus
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