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AESTHETICS OF HATE: R.I.P. DIMEBAG ABBOTT, AND GOOD RIDDANCE -- Time For Conservative Imagination!
ICONOCLAST ^ | by William Grim

Posted on 12/14/2004 8:40:19 AM PST by Apolitical

Part of the hard work of civilization is teaching young to be able to distinguish between the good and the bad in all aspects of life. If we teach our young children to obey the 10 Commandments and to obey the laws of the land, but don't teach them to realize that Johann Sebastian Bach is superior to Dimebag Abbott, we have failed as parents and mentors. If a person has gone through 12 or 13 years of education and has not developed an appreciation for the greatest artistic achievements of mankind, that education has been an utter failure.

While laissez-faire is the correct approach to economics it has no place in the realm of aesthetics or morality. A confidant civilization imposes its morality and aesthetics on it young people. Yes, you heard it right. We impose. The Rousseauian noble savage is a myth. Left unchecked and untutored the savage will never attain nobility......

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: dimebagdarrell; headbanger; pantera; shooting
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To: chris1

"I get a kick of some of the hypocritical weekly churchgoers who act all holy during church but S%^& on people the rest of the week."

And worship the Donkey.


61 posted on 12/14/2004 9:06:26 AM PST by Dead Dog
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To: Strategerist
There was plenty of great music written 200 years ago.

Absolutely. My cd collection has Rachmaninoff next to the Ramones, Bach next to Chuck Berry. I enjoy classical and baroque music.

Lots of rock and even metal musicians like and appreciate classical music, and even have had classical training.

Check out Yngwie Malmsteen. He began the neoclassical metal style of guitar (along with Richie Blackmore), and he based his solos on Nicolai Paganini's violin Caprices.

62 posted on 12/14/2004 9:06:49 AM PST by Terabitten (Live as a bastion of freedom and democracy in the midst of the heart of darkness.)
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To: Ditto

People still remember Buddy Holly and Richie Valens 50 years later. People still remember Robert Johnson 70 years later. People still remember Niccolo Paganini over 100 years later. People still remember King David as a good harpist. They were ALL considered extreme for their time or from certain jealous kings, even possible devil worshipers, and in David's case, he sent an innocent man to death in war for the man's wife, yet he was a man after God's own heart, according to the Bible.


63 posted on 12/14/2004 9:07:19 AM PST by MahaMarty (This'll probably get me suspended...AGAIN!)
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To: Apolitical
What the ef?

A man is murdered, and the writer is saying good riddance?!

64 posted on 12/14/2004 9:07:21 AM PST by Ciexyz (I use the term Blue Cities, not Blue States. PA is red except for Philly, Pgh & Erie)
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To: Skooz
That doesn't mean he deserved to be murdered, as this article implies.

That I agree with. But I would agree even if the guy was the worst guitarist in history. BTW. I never heard of him, but then again, I'm more inclined to Bach than rock.

65 posted on 12/14/2004 9:07:56 AM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: RockinRight
Dimebag was certainly one of the best metal guitarists of modern times.

Ability to make a lot of racket and loudness is not to be compared to producing understandable and pleasant sounds!

66 posted on 12/14/2004 9:08:00 AM PST by VOYAGER
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To: US admirer
You're from the south an you never seen a preacher beating the pulpit with one as if it were an attacking hyena?

I'm afraid not, though I have seen many preachers preach many sermons.

But, I don't tend to frequent movies and other forms of entertainment that perpetuate those hateful stereotypes.

67 posted on 12/14/2004 9:08:01 AM PST by Skooz (The "holiday" has a name.)
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To: chris1
Many conservatives do themselves a serious disservice by judging others they assume are not like them.

I get a kick of some of the hypocritical weekly churchgoers who act all holy during church but S%^& on people the rest of the week.

Chris - geez bud, you can't go 2 sentences without doing what you were just disparaging other people for doing? What's up with that?

68 posted on 12/14/2004 9:08:03 AM PST by tx_eggman ("All I need to know about Islam I learned on 09/11/01" - Crawdad)
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To: Dead Dog
Imagine living next door to Mozart?

Yeah LOL. Of course, my wife saw the movie "Amadeus" and immediately the comparisons between myself and him became the topic of conversation. I, apparently, am a lot like him, less the hedonism... So perhaps you should ask MY neighbors hee hee

69 posted on 12/14/2004 9:08:16 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks ('Hate' is just a special kind of Love we give to people who suck.)
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To: US admirer

LOL! Those crazy ole men SCARED me to death!


70 posted on 12/14/2004 9:08:40 AM PST by najida (Tuesdays- I have the personality of a rabid warthog. Ain't life grand!)
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To: RockinRight
I think the Metallica from "And Justice for All" and before. Black album is alright, but I can't stand Load-onward.
71 posted on 12/14/2004 9:09:00 AM PST by Dan from Michigan ("BZZZZZT You are fined one credit for violation of the Verbal Morality Statute")
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To: Apolitical
Wow.

That is an AWESOME article, man.

72 posted on 12/14/2004 9:09:05 AM PST by cicero's_son
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To: asgardshill
I along with my friends were actually wondering how long someone could expect to live with a nickname like Dimebag. Its like Ted Nugent always said "All my friends did drugs and now they are all dead I'm still around and I'm still Ted."

Heavy Metal and Rap are two of my least favorite music examples in the role model department. At least growing up in the 70's we had parents that were raising us attended unlike children that listen to a lot of crap these days left unattended which scares me.
73 posted on 12/14/2004 9:10:08 AM PST by april15Bendovr
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To: kevin

Sexually-explicit lyrics? You've obviously never listened to their music - a lot of the "lyrics" are more "Lost Love" type songs, and many songs deal with the unhealthy consequences of drug abuse...

But hey, can't expect cultural elitists to be truthful about stuff they know nothing about...


74 posted on 12/14/2004 9:10:11 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks ('Hate' is just a special kind of Love we give to people who suck.)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
I bet Dimebag was more conservative than the author of this piece.

I'll bet Darrell convinced a lot more people to vote for W than this pompous turd ever did.
75 posted on 12/14/2004 9:10:19 AM PST by Welsh Rabbit
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To: 68 grunt; Apolitical
The resident cultural maven, from Ohio and now resident of Germany where he can be close to the aryan culture. Ja Führer!

I just *knew* I'd heard this sentence before:

It was an assemblage of ignorant, semi-human barbarians who were filthy in attire and manner, intellectually incoherent and above all else, hideously ugly to the point of physical deformity.

Germany. 1934. 'Cept they were talking about Jews then, not metalheads.

76 posted on 12/14/2004 9:10:27 AM PST by Terabitten (Live as a bastion of freedom and democracy in the midst of the heart of darkness.)
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To: kevin
Every single "Pantera" album carries a parental warning.

So does some of Ted Nugent's stuff.

77 posted on 12/14/2004 9:11:00 AM PST by Dan from Michigan ("BZZZZZT You are fined one credit for violation of the Verbal Morality Statute")
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To: kevin

Oh, for the love of God, he didn't get the name because he used drugs, a guitar store owner gave him the name because he used to by 10 cent guitar picks by the dollar. The owner started calling him 10 pack Darrell, but felt it was cheesy since beer came in 6 or 12, so he changed it to Dimebag. Man, I'm glad the guys at Guitar Center quit calling me "Probie", people might've thought I go in and out of jail so often, that I have my own personal cell.


78 posted on 12/14/2004 9:11:53 AM PST by MahaMarty (This'll probably get me suspended...AGAIN!)
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To: MahaMarty

Uh - I posted that, and it was a joke. I guess I forgot the sarcasm tag in that post ;0)


79 posted on 12/14/2004 9:13:02 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks ('Hate' is just a special kind of Love we give to people who suck.)
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To: VOYAGER

BS. I find metal guitar to be very listenable and enjoyable.


80 posted on 12/14/2004 9:13:54 AM PST by RockinRight (Liberals are OK with racism and sexism, as long as it is aimed at a Republican.)
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