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AESTHETICS OF HATE: R.I.P. DIMEBAG ABBOTT, AND GOOD RIDDANCE -- Time For Conservative Imagination!
ICONOCLAST ^ | by William Grim

Posted on 12/14/2004 8:40:19 AM PST by Apolitical

Part of the hard work of civilization is teaching young to be able to distinguish between the good and the bad in all aspects of life. If we teach our young children to obey the 10 Commandments and to obey the laws of the land, but don't teach them to realize that Johann Sebastian Bach is superior to Dimebag Abbott, we have failed as parents and mentors. If a person has gone through 12 or 13 years of education and has not developed an appreciation for the greatest artistic achievements of mankind, that education has been an utter failure.

While laissez-faire is the correct approach to economics it has no place in the realm of aesthetics or morality. A confidant civilization imposes its morality and aesthetics on it young people. Yes, you heard it right. We impose. The Rousseauian noble savage is a myth. Left unchecked and untutored the savage will never attain nobility......

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: dimebagdarrell; headbanger; pantera; shooting
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To: monday; Skooz

Ok, I'm passing the hateful abjectly ignorant baton to you now. I gotta get back to work.


161 posted on 12/14/2004 10:03:38 AM PST by US admirer
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To: Chad Fairbanks
We should all strive to make sure our children grow up to be like you.

I have no children of my own, but my 6 year old nephew would get his mouth washed out with soap tuit suite in my house if he were caught speaking the word "scumbag" in front of an adult.

Its a pity that there's no way to feed a little Irish Spring to posters such as the one you replied to.

162 posted on 12/14/2004 10:04:03 AM PST by asgardshill ("We march by day and read Xenophon by night.")
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To: Skooz
"But, I don't tend to frequent movies and other forms of entertainment that perpetuate those hateful stereotypes."

First of all, what is hateful about bible thumping preachers? Second, there is no stereotype that exists without some truth to it. It doesn't take movies to perpetuate them.

All you have to do is go to the next revival meeting that comes to town. You will see plenty of bible thumpers there proudly thumping their bibles.
163 posted on 12/14/2004 10:04:28 AM PST by monday
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To: asgardshill

The word "scumbag" is thrown around usually by those who don't have a clue what it means. I may use it occasionally, as an adult, but I am at least fully aware of what it means. ;0)

You're right, though. The Newbie needs his mouth washed out with soap.


164 posted on 12/14/2004 10:06:55 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks ('Hate' is just a special kind of Love we give to people who suck.)
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To: NurdlyPeon
Must be DU visitors day at FR

So, what used to be your screen name here? Or are you another relative newbie who thinks they should decide that longtime FReepers are DUers?

(And I got a news flash for you poor poor heavy metal babies: As far as role models go, Scumbag ain't it!)

Some of us admired Abbott' s skill as a guitarist. That doesn't make him a hero. If you want to see sad hero worship, go to some of the "Bush makes me so wet" threads.

165 posted on 12/14/2004 10:07:33 AM PST by Bella_Bru (You're about as funny as a case sensitive search engine.)
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To: KoRn

Wish I could say I had the same luck converting others in my family. Although my sister is showing lots of potential. Now if I could just get her to register to vote.....


166 posted on 12/14/2004 10:08:52 AM PST by dansangel (Thank you Veterans past and present!)
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To: Bella_Bru

Ewww... LOL


167 posted on 12/14/2004 10:09:18 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks ('Hate' is just a special kind of Love we give to people who suck.)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

There really was a thread a few months ago titled, "Cheney is so hot!". So much for deep political thought, eh?


168 posted on 12/14/2004 10:11:53 AM PST by Bella_Bru (You're about as funny as a case sensitive search engine.)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
The word "scumbag" is thrown around usually by those who don't have a clue what it means.

True. They come in individual units, 3-packs, and "Weekend Packs" of a dozen. They are sized (in descending order) "Massively Deformed", "Extra Large", "Large", "Medium", and "Democrat Voter".

169 posted on 12/14/2004 10:14:51 AM PST by asgardshill ("We march by day and read Xenophon by night.")
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To: Bella_Bru

They must be Metalheads. No "Real Conservative Classical Music Fan" would ever post something like that ;0)


170 posted on 12/14/2004 10:15:01 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks ('Hate' is just a special kind of Love we give to people who suck.)
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To: asgardshill

The 12-packs are for a weekend? Oh, man, now I feel silly. I thought they made those to coincide with the calender months. Dang, am I old.

;0)


171 posted on 12/14/2004 10:16:58 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks ('Hate' is just a special kind of Love we give to people who suck.)
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To: RightWhale
"Not to typecast, but some Euros do feel a sense of cultural superiority to Americans. And to everything else that isn't Euro."

yeah, but then all you have to do is turn on the radio and listen to their music. Techno pop is practically indistinguishable from disco, and Europe is chock full of discotheques. ick, thats something Americans can definitely look down our noses at Europeans for.
172 posted on 12/14/2004 10:18:09 AM PST by monday
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To: monday
Europe is chock full of discotheques

My favorite was the Cafe Bar Nookie in eastern Bosnia :)

173 posted on 12/14/2004 10:26:14 AM PST by Terabitten (Live as a bastion of freedom and democracy in the midst of the heart of darkness.)
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To: RockinRight
Dimebag was certainly one of the best metal guitarists of modern times.

= "This turd isn't quite as smelly as the others."

174 posted on 12/14/2004 10:27:14 AM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: tx_eggman

I did not say all or most. I said many. And yes, many conservatives, and people in general, think anything different from what makes them personally feel uncomfortable is immoral or wrong. It is just flat out stupid and narrow minded.

Does the fact that I enjoy Slayer's music make me immoral????

I even read that Dimebag was not a drug user and got that name off of a goof.

My dad is very conservative and thinks the music I listen to is basically heretical. I like what I like, and it harms no one. So people who don't like it, although entitled to their opinion, should just butt out and leave everyone else alone.


175 posted on 12/14/2004 10:30:43 AM PST by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: monday
Here's something that may or may not be interesting:
Highly artistic people come from all over the world to this little town to participate in a fairly high cultural level of art happenings. Sometimes we get a compliment like this one from a highly cultured, cosmopolitan Euro--'I have been regularly attending community events such as this everywhere, and you are as good as any.' That was about a community chamber orchestra, but we have some decent local rock bands, bluegrass, blues, jazz, and various ethnic style bands, too.

The point, I guess, is that not all Euros are so provincial as the author of the article.

176 posted on 12/14/2004 10:33:13 AM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: RightWhale

What's worse is that this guy was born an American - then ended up in Europe. So, he is probably so provincial because of his guilt for being born an American. It's the only way he can salve the wounds he feels about not being a Real European...

;0)


177 posted on 12/14/2004 10:36:24 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks ('Hate' is just a special kind of Love we give to people who suck.)
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To: crude77

Darrell and brother Vinnie own The Clubhouse in Dallas.

www.Theclubhousedallas.com


178 posted on 12/14/2004 10:36:27 AM PST by evets (God bless president George W. Bush)
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To: Apolitical

Sounds like a good article from the first few paragraphs that I read.

Modern popular culture is sick.


179 posted on 12/14/2004 10:37:44 AM PST by Age of Reason
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To: APFel; Apolitical
if you don't have anything good to say, don't say anything at all.

Yeah.

And if people have nothing good to sing, they shouldn't sing it, either.

180 posted on 12/14/2004 10:39:53 AM PST by Age of Reason
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