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Darwin under fire (again): Intelligent design vs. evolution
First Amendment Center ^ | 12/5/04 | Charles C. Haynes

Posted on 12/09/2004 9:21:27 AM PST by Michael_Michaelangelo

Is Darwin winning the battle, but losing the war?

As soon as one challenge to the teaching of evolution is beaten in the courts, another emerges to take its place.

The current contender is “intelligent design,” a theory that according to advocates at the Discovery Institute “makes no religious claims, but says that the best natural evidence for life’s origins points to design rather than a process of random mutation and natural selection.”

(Excerpt) Read more at firstamendmentcenter.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crevolist; darwin; discoveryinstitute; evolution; firstamendment; intelligentdesign; ssdd
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To: contemplator
Why couldn't a creator intelligently design an evolutionary process?

Possibly for the same reason that an architect supplies a PLAN to the builders.

Oh, you'd get SOME kind of structure all right (all that building materials would NOT go to waste), but like anything else built by committee.............

181 posted on 12/09/2004 3:29:31 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Dataman

I notice — surprise! — he's not asking.

Dan
(c;


182 posted on 12/09/2004 3:31:50 PM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: RadioAstronomer

Yes; the Leftists ARE in control of our education system!


183 posted on 12/09/2004 3:32:00 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: RadioAstronomer

True: if you are Muslim or Mormon.


184 posted on 12/09/2004 3:32:54 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: RightWingNilla

Giving children a choice between candy and spinach for supper works about the same way.....


185 posted on 12/09/2004 3:34:40 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: stremba
Indivdual organisms do not evolve. Populations of organisms do.

Sorry, but if individuals do NOT evolve, then there's no way in hell populations of them will!

186 posted on 12/09/2004 3:38:50 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Dataman
I get a charge out of you Genesis critics. On one hand, you condemn the "literalists." On the other, you are incapable of recognizing figurative language when it bites you.

Since you acknowledge that Genesis is "figurative language", then how come it's not figurative enough to encompass Evolution?

First you have this rigid idea that Genesis can't possibly allow that God created Evolution, but then you say it uses "figurative language".

Go figure.

187 posted on 12/09/2004 3:40:19 PM PST by narby
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To: JeffAtlanta

How many BILLIONS of years has Earth Existed??

How many BILLIONS of individual creatures are there?

How many changes, per year, would have to happen for this to occur by ET?

You can surely do the math......


188 posted on 12/09/2004 3:43:35 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: JeffAtlanta
An isolated subpopulation of species "A" will evolve in different ways than other subpopulations of species "A".

Hoohah!

Deare's a WHOLE lots of isolating goin' on h'year!


Will this guess at 'how things are the way they are' work withOUT the isolatin'?

189 posted on 12/09/2004 3:48:54 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: GreenFreeper

Geico: not GECKO


190 posted on 12/09/2004 3:49:44 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: ironmike4242
The main reason there is so much argument on this subject is because everyone is arguing about something different!

You noticed; eh?

;^)


191 posted on 12/09/2004 3:52:02 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Right Wing Professor
Evolution is not a theory of life's origin.

We avoid THIS topic like Drac does the dawn!


GenericEvoBoy
192 posted on 12/09/2004 3:53:56 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: ironmike4242

And when the humidity went back to 'normal' what happened?


193 posted on 12/09/2004 3:55:09 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: bigLusr
I just believe that whatever science discovers, God is the author of it. If there appear to be conflicts between the Bible and science, and I can't resolve them, I just shrug and live with a little cognitive dissonance.

I'm not aware of any scientific evidence against the Resurrection.

194 posted on 12/09/2004 3:56:46 PM PST by Fatalis
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To: Elsie
Do a little math yourself Elsie.

If you invest one cent on the first day of the month with 100% per day rate of return, how much money will you have at the end of the month? I.E. day 2 you have 2 cents, day 3 you have 4 cents, day 4 = 8 cents, etc.

Evolution works the same way. If after every million years just one species evolves into two, what happens after a few billion years?

Do the math Elsie. You'll be amazed.

195 posted on 12/09/2004 3:59:02 PM PST by narby
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To: Fatalis

That's a disappointing answer. :-/

Fair... but disappointing.


196 posted on 12/09/2004 4:02:13 PM PST by bigLusr (Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur)
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To: narby
Evolution works the same way.

No; it doesn't.

197 posted on 12/09/2004 4:02:33 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: bigLusr
LOL What were you hoping for?
198 posted on 12/09/2004 4:04:40 PM PST by Fatalis
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To: Elsie
No; it doesn't.

Well, glad to see you know what you're talking about.

199 posted on 12/09/2004 4:06:56 PM PST by narby
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To: Elsie
No; it doesn't.

Ah, argument by "because I said so". How...typically creationist.
200 posted on 12/09/2004 4:20:34 PM PST by Dimensio (Join the Monthly Internet Flash Mob: http://www.aa419.org)
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