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Dress code wearing thin on air marshals
Washington Times ^ | 12/08/04 | Audrey Hudson

Posted on 12/07/2004 9:47:07 PM PST by kattracks

A Thanksgiving Day morale booster for federal air marshals has instead turned into possible pink slips for air cops who ignore their strict dress code.
    Thomas Quinn, director of the Federal Air Marshal Service (FAMS), paid a surprise visit to Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport on Thanksgiving to thank the law-enforcement officials for their holiday work. He reportedly was angered when nearly 30 marshals deplaned and only one was dressed satisfactorily.
    In response, supervisors are being assigned to airports nationwide to inspect the air cops before and after flights to make sure business suits or sports coats are being worn, according to numerous memos issued last week and obtained by The Washington Times.

"The most recent incidents with [New York marshals have] shown that they are not adhering to the agency's dress-code policy," said one memo.
    Air marshals are being told that if their dress is not up to snuff, they will be suspended from flight duty. They are referring to the incident as the "Thanksgiving Day massacre."
    A spokesman for FAMS could not be reached for comment.


    One air marshal who asked not to be identified called it "ridiculous" that marshals are expected to blend in with holiday travelers by wearing a suit.
    "On Thanksgiving Day, travelers don't wear business suits to visit family and friends," the marshal said.
    The dress-code policy is a sore point among the traveling marshals, who say it compromises their undercover status.
    A provision included in the intelligence-reform bill would allow the air marshals to wear less-conspicuous clothing. The final vote on the bill is expected today in the Senate.


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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; airlines; airlinesecurity; airmarshals; beancounterstupidity; bureaucraticidiocy
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To: kattracks

The dress-code policy is a sore point among the traveling marshals, who say it compromises their undercover status.


Gee ya think!
Reminds me of the FBI under Hover(sp) all agents had to be clean shaven and wear business attire.


21 posted on 12/07/2004 10:07:22 PM PST by Valin (Out Of My Mind; Back In Five Minutes)
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To: verifythentrust

Inaction vs In Action...That was my problem with Qwest, & their ad campaign. I left Qwest {phone} for Cox {phone} over their "Inaction" and lack of dial tone.

In the 14 Months since I switched, I've always had dial tone. In the 2 months prior; I was lucky to have 20 minutes a day of dial tone. Every House on my block has left Qwest.


22 posted on 12/07/2004 10:07:52 PM PST by PizzaDriver (an heinleinian/libertarian)
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To: sam_paine

I'm always distracted by the hotties on board.

Not me! I'm waaay to spiritual for such earthly things.



That's my story and I'm stickin with it.


23 posted on 12/07/2004 10:09:42 PM PST by Valin (Out Of My Mind; Back In Five Minutes)
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To: Prime Choice
Anyone besides me notice how frickin' easy it is to spot the air marshal on a plane?

Sort of like when the FBI made their agents wear suits in Honolulu...

A TOURIST commented one day, within earshot, of pointing out an agent (undercover one) to another tourist.

They were authorized to wear aloha shirts after that..

24 posted on 12/07/2004 10:11:17 PM PST by Experiment 6-2-6 (Meega, Nala Kweesta! It appears that SABERTOOTH got himself suspended. Again. ????)
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To: longun45
We need to get them shirts that say I am an undercover air marshall.

They need a more practical uniform, something more like this so they can stay "undercover" -

New TSA "undercover dress code" for Asian destinations.

25 posted on 12/07/2004 10:13:19 PM PST by Proud Infidel (There is no such thing as a moderate Huitzilopochtlist.)
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To: kattracks

Thomas Quinn

26 posted on 12/07/2004 10:16:54 PM PST by BulletBobCo
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To: kattracks
Director Quinn honored these 3 Air marshalls for adhering to his latest dress code...

27 posted on 12/07/2004 10:22:45 PM PST by NewLand (God Bless America and God Bless President Bush!)
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To: Experiment 6-2-6

Unless you are going overseas, I advise taking the train.


28 posted on 12/07/2004 10:25:13 PM PST by Sixgun Symphony
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To: kattracks
what kind of stupid BS is this !?
just nuts...
makes as much sense as pulling little old blue haired ladies
out of line to search on non-profile criteria.
What a waste of taxpayer money and dangerous security risk.
Fire these higher ups that insist on this sh** right away!
29 posted on 12/07/2004 10:28:01 PM PST by injin
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To: kattracks

bureaucracy run amuck.

Sheesh.

Does anyone besides Bush's immediate crew have a brain in WASH?


30 posted on 12/07/2004 10:33:18 PM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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To: Prime Choice

I wear a sport coat all the time when flying... I like the extra pockets. I think people tend to assume I'm the air marshal, especially because I almost always fly in seat 2c.


31 posted on 12/07/2004 10:38:51 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: kattracks
A provision included in the intelligence-reform bill would allow the air marshals to wear less-conspicuous clothing. The final vote on the bill is expected today in the Senate.

So, Congress has to pass a bill in order to correct the moronic directions of some mid-level bureaucrat and micro-manage a department? Isn't there anybody in the Bush Administration chain of command that could have handled this administratively? As far as I can tell from the story, it wasn't Congress that legislated the dress code in first place but rather just department policy. Doesn't seem that Congess should be wasting time and money dealing with such detail. Am I missing something?

32 posted on 12/07/2004 10:45:29 PM PST by bam
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To: kattracks

Sometimes we are so damn stupid. Why is this person not fired and replaced with someone with a brain.


33 posted on 12/07/2004 11:06:59 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: kattracks

One more piece of proof that when it comes to our government, common sense has left the building. It's a bloated, self-serving, self-feeding bureaucratic monster.

MM


34 posted on 12/07/2004 11:09:43 PM PST by MississippiMan (Americans should not be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness.)
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To: kattracks

What a nitwit. "Undercover" means ... well, ya know ... undercover! Good grief. Why isn't this guy gone already?


35 posted on 12/07/2004 11:40:57 PM PST by Hetty_Fauxvert (http://sonoma-moderate.blogspot.com/)
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To: kattracks

That they have to vote on this is a joke...what the hell is the priority????...dress code or finding terrorists???...L.O.L.


36 posted on 12/08/2004 12:45:33 AM PST by Route101
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To: kattracks

..."We must be dressed for success if we are going to kill terrorists".


37 posted on 12/08/2004 12:47:26 AM PST by Route101
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To: FreeKeys

How about we just go back to the good old days where we could carry what we wanted on planes? If we let people carry (so long as they only carried safety rounds) and made them declare it before getting on the flight, I bet there would be fewer worries about irate or drunk passengers, too.


38 posted on 12/08/2004 1:01:48 AM PST by LibertarianInExile (NO BLOOD FOR CHOCOLATE! Get the UN-ignoring, unilateralist Frogs out of Ivory Coast!)
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To: kattracks

FIRE NORM MINETA NOW.

AIR MARSHALS MUST BLEND IN.


39 posted on 12/08/2004 1:04:59 AM PST by Petronski (Aspirations in the clouds and your hopes go down the drain . . .)
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To: longun45
We need to get them shirts that say I am an undercover air marshall.

...In English, Arabic, Farsi and French....all on one shirt.

40 posted on 12/08/2004 1:10:40 AM PST by Petronski (Aspirations in the clouds and your hopes go down the drain . . .)
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