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Christmas Under Siege: The Big Picture (O'Reilly is finally on the right side of something!)
Fox News ^ | Tuesday, December 07, 2004 | Bill O'Reilly

Posted on 12/07/2004 9:40:36 AM PST by MizSterious

Christmas Under Siege: The Big Picture

Tuesday, December 07, 2004

By Bill O'Reilly

Christmas under siege — the big picture. That is the subject of this evening's "Talking Points Memo."

All over the country, Christmas is taking flak. In Denver this past weekend, no religious floats were permitted in the holiday parade there. In New York City, Mayor Bloomberg unveiled the holiday tree and no Christian Christmas symbols are allowed in the public schools. Federated Department Stores, [that's] Macy's, have done away with the Christmas greeting, "Merry Christmas."

Now, all of this anti-Christian stuff is absurd, and may even be a bias situation. But the real reason it's happening has little to do with Christmas and everything to do with organized religion.

Secular progressives realize that America as it is now will never approve of gay marriage, partial birth abortion, euthanasia, legalized drugs, income redistribution through taxation, and many other progressive visions because of religious opposition.

But if the secularists can destroy religion in the public arena, the brave new progressive world is a possibility. That's what happened in Canada.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antichristian; christmas; fox; humbug; liberals; oreilly; scrooges; secularism; waronchristmas
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1 posted on 12/07/2004 9:40:37 AM PST by MizSterious
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Be sure to go read the whole thing! This is an excellent commentary on the situation we're facing.

Last night I left it on Fox while I was doing something else, and was surprised to hear this "Talking Points" memo--had to double-check to make sure it was really O'Reilly!


2 posted on 12/07/2004 9:42:38 AM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: MizSterious

The TRUTH, that's spelled TRUTH... is oh so refreshing!


3 posted on 12/07/2004 9:43:41 AM PST by odoso (Millions for charity, but not one penny for tribute!)
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To: MizSterious
Christmas Under Siege: The Big Picture (O'Reilly is finally on the right side of something!)

So what happened to O'Reilly? Did Santa Claus threten to bring all his reindeers down the chimney?

4 posted on 12/07/2004 9:45:15 AM PST by xJones
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To: MizSterious
(O'Reilly is finally on the right side of something!)

As they say, even a stopped watch is right twice a day. :-)

5 posted on 12/07/2004 9:45:17 AM PST by lonevoice (Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
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To: MizSterious

"Secular progressives realize ..."


Well, at least he recognizes that there might be secular conservatives.


6 posted on 12/07/2004 9:45:59 AM PST by MaineRepublic (Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish. -- Euripides)
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To: MizSterious

Now I am against income redistribution through taxation as much as the next guy, but is it because of religious reasons that people are against it?? I am against it because its a stupid idea.


7 posted on 12/07/2004 9:46:30 AM PST by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: MizSterious

Good piece, nice contrast between how they did it in Canada and what they want to do here, and the results


8 posted on 12/07/2004 9:47:02 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: MizSterious

This issue is a no brainer.

OReilly is still a egotistical blowhard who will change his tune at the drop of the hat just to prove his so-called impartiality.


9 posted on 12/07/2004 9:47:10 AM PST by Edit35
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To: odoso

Yes, because [heaven] forbid we acknowledge the historical fact that our [Christ]mas holiday comes directly from religious celebrations. [Heaven] forbid we admit that anyone at any time at any point in history has been [Christian.] [Heaven] forbid that our kids be exposed to any facts, any history, any literature, or anything else that so much as mentions [God.]

(Words in brackets may be removed to avoid offense, because [heaven] forbid that anyone besides [Christians] should ever be offended or have to recognize the truth of our cultural heritage.)


10 posted on 12/07/2004 9:48:16 AM PST by susiek
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To: MizSterious
(O'Reilly is finally on the right side of something!)

Let me clue you in.

O'Reilly stakes out positions on topics based on his desire to fool everybody some of the time, not based on what he actually believes.

By staking out internally inconsistent positions that are all over the map, every member of his audience will once in awhile exclaim "O'Reilly is finally on the right side of something!"

And those audience members hang on day after day, pumping up his ratings, waiting for the next time one of Bill's carefully crafted random positions coincides with one of theirs.

PT Barnum deja vu all over again.

11 posted on 12/07/2004 9:48:37 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: escapefromboston

Uh, I think it's because of lazy entitlement reasons...


12 posted on 12/07/2004 9:48:38 AM PST by odoso (Millions for charity, but not one penny for tribute!)
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To: MizSterious

Bill O'Really

Dan
Biblical Christianity web site
Biblical Christianity message board
Biblical Christianity BLOG

13 posted on 12/07/2004 9:49:00 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: MizSterious; american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ..
Organizations like Thomasmoore.org and the Alliance Defense Fund in Phoenix are fighting back, but need your help. Billoreilly.com has information on that.

"Talking Points" is convinced that the USA cannot defeat terrorism and any other evil without a strong, traditional foundation that clearly defines right from wrong. The struggle today is not about Christmas, but about the spirit of our country.

Catholic Ping - please freepmail me if you want on/off this list


14 posted on 12/07/2004 9:49:18 AM PST by NYer ("Blessed be He who by His love has given life to all." - final prayer of St. Charbel)
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To: MizSterious

bump


15 posted on 12/07/2004 9:49:38 AM PST by kimosabe31
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To: cpforlife.org; Mr. Silverback; little jeremiah

Ping~!


16 posted on 12/07/2004 9:49:56 AM PST by NYer ("Blessed be He who by His love has given life to all." - final prayer of St. Charbel)
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To: MizSterious

O'Reilly comes out in favor of Christmas. How bold. Next thing you know, he'll come down in favor of apple pie and baseba...well, apple pie anyway.


17 posted on 12/07/2004 9:50:27 AM PST by Huck (The day will come when liberals will complain that chess is too violent .)
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To: MizSterious

Heads are gonna roll when The Big Guy/The Higher Power/God gets tired of this ant-religion crusade.


18 posted on 12/07/2004 9:53:40 AM PST by peacebaby (smoked and enhaled)
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To: MizSterious

O'Reilly made an excellent point several nights ago which I have tried to paraphrase.

JudeoChristian philosophy is the basis for Western law. That philosphy in and of itself should not be separated from the State, as it is not the practice of any particular religion. JudeoChristian philosophy merely describes the requirements for civilized behavior, based on centuries of study, knowledge and wisdom.

The actual theism for religious worship, practices and appertinences of Judeism, Catholicism and forms of Protestantism should rightfully be left to those organizations of faith.


19 posted on 12/07/2004 9:58:53 AM PST by sodpoodle (sparrows are underrated)
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To: MizSterious

"Secular progressives" substitute w/ Incestuous Pagans

"progressive visions" substitute w/ progressive illness'




20 posted on 12/07/2004 9:59:08 AM PST by odoso (Millions for charity, but not one penny for tribute!)
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