Posted on 11/27/2004 11:30:26 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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I say we look into it
Homosexual advocates are persistent...
Exactly how did "all sin" come into being in the Garden of Eden?
I've heard from my Christian friends that Adam and Eve were indeed involved. If that is so, they must have some connection to homosexuality, lying, stealing, and the other "sins" that you mention. Please explain.
I wonder if homosexuality is tied in with hermaphrodites and other freakish birth defects.
Homosexuality could also be the way nature is culling the misfits out of the gene pool. Their sexual orientation keeps them from reproducing.
One word: prison. That's not choice, but it is often ignored in the argument.
There are sexual predators that either force or manipulate their will upon the young, innocent, weak, confused, etc. It happens in prison and outside of prison, too.
We don't have to act on them. And your post illustrates clearly that what was your desire at age x, was changed later in life. This is also applicable to the entire "gay" debate, IMHO. What may be your "desire" today, may not be your desire, tomorrow.
Some people choose to take drugs. And later in life they choose not to. Some people grow up obese, and later in life, they become not obese. To posit this as a genetic prediliction is to posit there should never be any criminal sentenced to a crime, no?
And this is exactly what was the basis of some liberal "judicial" thought in the 70s -- that the criminal, was only a criminal because society was at fault -- but that given time, the criminal would choose to not become a criminal. Ipso, abolish harsh criminal sentences.
It's interesting stuff to ponder, these 60s/70s mindset on "choice" versus "non-choice". In the liberal mindset, the criminal is forced to become a criminal ("No Justice/No Peace") by society; but they do not extend that logic to other areas. Like "gayness". I'm not equating gayness to being criminal here, I'm pointing out an insane double standard.
Years of study have proven that a certain theologin from
Princeton named Hodge was correct when he said essentially
that Darwins theory of Evolution was a cloak for Darwins atheism.Science has never disproven Scripture--but has
confirmed the Biblical accounts on many occasions. When
Scripture declares homosexual behavior is "unnatural" it is just as much factual today as when the Apostle Paul said it.
True Science will Never prove homosexual behavior is not a
choice.But we live in an age when the apostate unbelievers
govern our education and society.
Shethink13 wrote:I think I can say with confidence that this study has fallen flat. If it was in any way conclusive, you'd have heard about it ad nauseam. Trust me on that.
I did a presentation on this for a Society for Neuroscience seminar a few years ago. The landmark studies were done by Simon LeVay at the Salk Institute and published in Science in the early 1990's. He analyzed hypothalamic nuclei (INAH 1-4) in gay men and straight men and compared them with the same areas in the female hypothalamus. The results were that the neuronal structure and connectivity in gay men were similar to the female hypothalamus and significantly different than those of straight men. LeVay's studies led to numerous follow-ups on the anterior and ventral medial hypothalamus, sexually dimorphic nuclei, neurotransmitter differences, and influences on the development of the hypothalamus.
Important areas as the hypothalamus is a critical part of the system that controls sexual behavior. In a sense, sexual behaviors and function are hardwired there. Change the wiring - change the behavior, Studies have shown that artificially 'feminizing' the hypothalamus makes male animals exibit female sexual behaviors. Interrupt the function of these areas and reduced to no sexual behaviors are displayed.
The research is ongoing. It has in no sense "fallen flat." The October 22, 2004 issue of Brain Research has an article on "Differential brain activation in exclusively homosexual and heterosexual men produced by the selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor, fluoxetine." by Kinnunen LH, Moltz H, Metz J, Cooper M. showing that the serotonergic (serotonin - a neurotransmitter) systems in the hypothalamus function differently in gay men as compared to straight. The authors believe this mirrors the now accepted neuroanatomical differences between the two populations. Other studies have shown differences in the suprachiasmatic nuclei, mammilary bodies, and other brain regions.
The role of neurophysiologic differences between gay and straight and the mechanism of development is still a active area of research. Just because the main stream media doesn't pay attention - doesn't mean it isn't happening.
If it was a choice, as you claim that it is, then you and I would have had to make the choice as well.
Did you have to make the choice?
I know that I was naturally attracted to individuals of the opposite sex from the moment that I first experienced sexual attraction.
If homosexuality is a choice, do you recall the moment that you made the choice NOT to be a homosexual?
Publicly gays prefer the cause to be genetic, because then they don't have to defend their choice. They also like to claim that being gay is common and that they are persecuted by straights. If all that is correct they will really have a problem in a generation once we've figured out how to fix broken genes. Let's take a look at that future. Instead of the current government mandated 20+ rare fixable diseases, newborns will be screened for a long list of dubious genes and their legal representatives offered corrective therapy. If being gay is that common and they are that hated then add it to the screening list and let those legal representatives decide whether or not to fix it. This decision can't be put off until the baby is an adult. Who would decide under current law? Parents, i.e. straight gay haters. It may not all happen at once, but evolutionary the gay gene will go the way of the dodo if you accept their premises. Look for them to push an "endangered sexuality law" to prohibit the testing and gene fixes.
I.E. Experiencing a BAD personal wipe, or a wipe that has somehow gone nastily wrong can put human sexual proclivities into the proper frame of mind ..and.. Letting kids SEE what they are "wipeing" on themselves would probably cure any Man / Man, Woman / Woman confusions.. That is if it didn't ruin their attention to sex completely until later in life..
Thanks for the ping, ping.
It also seems that this developmental process is mediated by stress - maternal, familial and societal. The higher the levels of stress, the more likely developmental abnormalities will appear. For example, it's been shown that in contained populations of mice, if the population grows beyond a certain size, the percentage of homosexual mice will rise.
The other factor is that even if there is a homosexual developmental abnormality, heterosexual behavior or 'lifestyle choice' is still very possible. In fact for years in most societies a large percentage of homosexuals chose a heterosexual life. Psychologically, this was a burden on them, but not having to face the societal consequences were deemed important enough to make the choice.
What has changed in our society is that the societal consequences have graduly faded away. This has emboldened developmentallly determined homosexuals to assert their right to live a homosexual lifestyle and even to declare it to be 'normal'.
Most societies in most times in history (there are exceptions - ancient Greece) have understood the need to sanction homosexual lifestyles. We have the 'luxury' of not doing that because not every man is needed to created bonded male groups for defense, etc.
That's completely untrue. Here's a collection of articles that debunk the "born that way" misinformation. Plus the tens of thousands of former homosexuals tell us homosexuals can change.
Homosexuality and Genetics
Homosexuality and Ex-Homosexuals
Tens of thousands of former homosexuals do recall just that.
IMO, stating it's a choice, no matter what side of the debate you're on is probably the wrong word to use. Is the attraction issue a choice - it's complicated. But it's always a choice to engage in homosexuality (behavior). And tens of thousands of former homosexuals testify that homosexuals can change.
Even Dr. Robert Spitzer changed his mind on the issue, and now states homosexuals can change.
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