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I am not overly religous by upbringing or nature but this is just downright disturbing. Teachers are not allowed to teach that the pilgrims thanked God? This somehow constitutes government imposing religon?

I am sure there are many of you who will be upset at the fact that the PC crowd does not want to teach religon. That is fine with me. Believe what you like. What really kills me though is this subtle rewriting of history by editing God out of these kinds of events.

This week a teacher was not able to teach the Declaration of Independence due to religous references contained in it? (Link was on drudge, I will provide it if anyone asks) They can't teach that the pilgrims thanked God? And the kids can't thank God themselves?

What is this country coming to?

I have to wonder if the muslim kids are told they cannot thank Allah? Or if the ban is just on the Judeo-Christian beleivers? My money is on the latter, muslims being the PC crowd's group-du-jour.

Orwell may have been right, he was just off by 20 years. Up is down, Black is white, but I do *NOT* love Big Brother.

1 posted on 11/25/2004 8:19:25 PM PST by Personal Responsibility
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To: Personal Responsibility

Orwellian. Exactly -- and it has got to stop.


2 posted on 11/25/2004 8:20:23 PM PST by BenLurkin (Big government is still a big problem.)
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Hey p.c. thank this


3 posted on 11/25/2004 8:24:11 PM PST by al baby (she stuned my little beeber)
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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...."

What that means is that a Government bureaucrat has no right to force you to practice a certain religion and that a Government bureaucrat has no right to prevent you from practicing your own religion.

The only way to stop this nonsense is to file lawsuits whenever these people violate the First Amendment.

4 posted on 11/25/2004 8:31:05 PM PST by Polybius
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This somehow constitutes government imposing religon?

Sure it does.

If a student brings a bible to class that, supposedly, constitutes a breach in the "wall" of separation.

Conversely, if a school denies a student the right to speak of God that also constitutes a breach of that same "wall" as well as a breach of free speech. The school is open for a law suit here.

There's also the fact that religious persecution in Europe drove many people here to practice their religions as they saw fit. Leaving that fact out of the Thanksgiving discussion is also leaving out basic facts, and that's called malpractice.

5 posted on 11/25/2004 8:33:24 PM PST by Noachian (A Democrat, by definition, is a Socialist.)
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So I guess the teachers are supposed to say the Pilgrims happened to wash up on the Massachusetts coastline for whatever reason. Religious freedom had nothing to do with it? When the first kid raises his/her hand asking what a Pilgrim is, will the answer explain that they were a religious group? The whole thing is just crazy!


7 posted on 11/25/2004 8:48:34 PM PST by rdl6989 (4 More Years! 4 More Years!)
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To: Personal Responsibility

When will they learn...
for in Him we live and move and have our being.
God gives us every precious gift. If they don't thank Him now - will they talk to Him when the gifts are removed???


8 posted on 11/25/2004 8:59:05 PM PST by Peace Is Coming
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Sickening.

Idiots are educating our children.


12 posted on 11/25/2004 10:17:15 PM PST by Rocky
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I am very glad our daughter is the local parochial school. We still have Thanksgiving, Christmas, and Easter.

Of course, she has started to genuflect to the statue of Lincoln in Lincoln Park. Good Republican upbringing ....

13 posted on 11/25/2004 11:10:36 PM PST by sphinx
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I am not overly religous by upbringing or nature but this is just downright disturbing.

Where have you been for the last 40 years. This is the status quo mindset in most public schools.

14 posted on 11/25/2004 11:13:33 PM PST by Always Right
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15 posted on 11/25/2004 11:14:25 PM PST by Coleus (There is Plenty of Room For all of God's Creatures, Right Next to the mashed potatoes!)
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The whole situation is littered with irony.


16 posted on 11/25/2004 11:15:46 PM PST by jwalburg (Those buried included children still clutching toys)
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Okay, what would you do if you were a student and the administrators told you this? The first thing I would do - having been properly schooled in "Question Authority" - would be to thank God as loudly as I could. What are they going to do, kick you out of school? I can just hear the conversation with my parents.

"You got suspended from school again! What for this time?"

"Praying."

Someone please show me how to turn the clock back, if only for a little bit. I want to go back to high school and torment the administration so more.

20 posted on 11/26/2004 8:38:32 PM PST by BJungNan (Stop Spam - Do NOT buy from junk email.)
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Clear cut case of government enforcing the religion of secularism on an unwilling public. The government takes it's marching orders from us, it's time they be reminded.
21 posted on 11/26/2004 8:41:00 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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Thank God, I don't live in Maryland.


28 posted on 11/26/2004 8:51:55 PM PST by Militiaman7 (Jesus is my personal Physician.)
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