Posted on 11/25/2004 6:44:38 PM PST by Haro_546
Yes. This type of aircraft has no place in the modern battlefield and Foreseeable conflicts. The money could be put into more usefull sistems (each unit cost about $235 million for 239 planes) Whats your opinion?
Its needs a pilot. I know it wont be canceled, but i wanted to know if the money could be better spent on other weapons. The military budget will be tight for the next decade we should spend our money more wisely methinks.
I think you miss the point of fleet protection. The idea is to engage an enemy as far away from the fleet as possible with as much flexability as possible. All missile systems are very low on flexability, they can't be recalled or rerouted. Nor do they have the range and punch as do aircraft.
Honestly I don't think you know what you are talking about.
Wrong. You have no point, only an opinion that you have lamely supported by repeating the same inane comment over and over.
And, if you're old enough, no doubt you were against Pres. Reagan's "Star Wars" program which has now begun to be deployed. You're a really big thinker, Haro, wrong but big.
Yes we will. Along with other things in the works.
Never questioned what you were talking about or your bona fides....... I was only questioning Haro about his.
LOL - your parents don't know you are on the PC....
I thought I put a motion on the floor for a ZOT. I don't have a good pic, nor do I know how to post one.
Somebody please!
NO, you are wrong.
By John A. Tirpak, Executive Editor (AFA Journal)
F/A-22 Sweeps Tests; Rising Interdependence; Searching for the Next Transport; Progress in Space ....
Flying Colors for F/A-22
By all accounts, the F/A-22 fighter breezed through four-and-a-half months of exacting testsits toughest yet. The Raptor demonstrated that it can handily beat todays best fighters flown by todays best crews.
The Air Force has classified the results of the F/A-22s initial operational test and evaluation (IOT&E), conducted at Nellis AFB, Nev., from late April through mid-September. However, USAF officials said nothing in the testing suggests the aircraft wont perform any way other than brilliantly in real-world combat.
Gen. John P. Jumper, Air Force Chief of Staff, told Inside the Air Force in August that the IOT&E phase was progressing with fewer lumps and bumps than I ever thought it would. He added, Were very, very pleased with what weve seen so far.
The F/A-22 passes its toughest test. (USAF photo by Ken Hackman)
Air Force officials said the service probably would this fall provide an unclassified synopsis of the test results, after USAF completes all analysis.
The F/A-22 was required to prevail in five broad, live scenarios, each with a number of variations.
In the first, USAF measured the Raptors ability to spot, shoot, and destroy an F-16 in a first look, first kill test. In the second, two F/A-22s had to destroy a high-value airborne asset such as an E-3 Airborne Warning and Control System aircraft defended by four F-15s or F-16s. In the third, two F/A-22s had to protect a B-2 bomber against four F-15s or F-16s. In the fourth, four Raptors had to defend a high-value platform such as an AWACS against eight attacking F-15s or F-16s. In the last, four F/A-22s had to protect four F-117s against eight attacking F-15s or F-16s. Supporting aircraft included the Navys EA-6B Prowler airborne jamming aircraft.
Besides winning the engagements, the aircraft had to dodge ground-based air defenses. The Air Force said it flew 188 sorties with six F/A-22s during the evaluation.
The tests were run and graded by the Air Force Operational Test and Evaluation Center, headquartered at Kirtland AFB, N.M. The testing looked at not only how effectively the aircraft met its mission but also its reliability, ability to surge, sortie generation rate, mission capable rate, and the number of shots required to destroy an enemy.
Based on the performance of those six F/A-22s, AFOTEC developed models simulating how an entire squadron would fare, and it then measured this performance against requirements. An Air Force spokesman said that the modeling simulates large group flying operations in sufficient detail to provide accurate estimates of suitability parameters.
In addition, AFOTEC interviewed pilots and maintainers, adding their views to the quantitative data. AFOTEC ultimately will decide whether the F/A-22 is suitable for Air Force use, the spokesman said.
AFOTEC will determine if the aircraft met or did not meet the criteria [that Air Combat Command] set forth, using these data, said the USAF spokesman.
The IOT&E tests did not look at the F/A-22s ground attack capabilities. That mission element will be tested later, as additional munitions are certified for F/A-22 use. However, the first deployed F/A-22s will have the capability to drop the 1,000-pound version of the Joint Direct Attack Munition. The main ground attack weapon for the F/A-22 is to be the 250-pound Small Diameter Bomb (SDB). Each Raptor would have the capability to drop eight SDBs.
The F/A-22 is slated to achieve initial operational capability by the end of 2005. Air Force officials said they are confident the Raptor will reach that milestone on time, but they cautioned that they might still see some last-minute technical surprises.
They tried that ONCE it is called the F-111.
I worked on the F-22 before I retired in 1991. The F-35 wasn't even on the drawing boards.
How does the JSF compare to the F-22?
I know. I just wanted to put them out there for all to see, unlike another on this thread.
It can't COMPARE, but they COMPLEMENT THE HELL OUT OF ONE ANOTHER.....
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