Should The F-22 be cancelled?

26-nov,2004 | Me

[Haro_546]

Yes. This type of aircraft has no place in the modern battlefield and Foreseeable conflicts. The money could be put into more usefull sistems (each unit cost about $235 million for 239 planes) Whats your opinion?

[Caesar Soze]

Yes. The F/A-22, however, should continue apace.

[RedlegCPT]

WHo are you to make such a well informed comment as such??? Are you on the tip of the spear??? How do you think the bombs/missles get deployed to theater???

[forYourChildrenVote4Bush]

So, F-35 will not be canceled??

Which one will be out first the 35 or 22? When will they be out?

[em2vn]

Due to the commonality and modularity of the F-22/F-35 the latter is in fact a naval variant of the F-22. The F-35 is cheered and geared for a primary air to ground focus with air to air being a secondary role. I can't help but imagine there will be a number of craft modified for a primary air to air role. If you can't protect the fleet you can't bust the ground with ships on the bottom.

[JRandomFreeper]

My main point against the F-22 are it cost too much, it will be obsolete before we use it, the money saved can be put to better use

That's exactly how President Reagan drove the Soviets into bankruptcy.

Hope the yen does as well as the ruble...

/john

[lawdog]

Two words..."China threat".

We will need the F-22.

[mad_as_he$$]

It is the prime directive of all military programs that they are obsolete before going operational. I believe this happened about 1987. The F15 was a giant leap forward when it was introduced. But since then the cutting edge of technology is significantly ahead of military acceptance and implementation. During GW1 I personally purchased and shipped 100 GPS units to the troops on ground. This (the satellites)is/was a Pentagon program that was not at that time fully implemented in the ARMY. Crazy, why didn't every soldier there have a GPS. Only recently has the Army implemented full GPS capability in some units. The universal soldier is real and available - the military isn't ready yet - mindset or arrogance you pick.

[Long Cut]

"Isn't the F-35 the plane that was supposed to be used on aircraft carriers (It could take off vertically??)?"

Yes, it WAS. Unfortunately, it has become too heavy to do so with a useful weapon/fuel load.

"Can the f22 be modified for aircrafts or will they keep the f18?"

The F-22 CANNOT be modified for carrier duty. The Navy will keep the F-18 variants for the time being. There's rumors afoot, though.

"F-35 is the one that had multiple countries joining in its development? I always thought that the F-35 was further ahead than the f22."

Yes to the first part, no to the second. The F-22 has been in development for 20+ years, and there are many flying, fully-capable aircraft now. The F-35 has only a couple of prototypes with different engines/systems.

[JRandomFreeper]

And I appreciate the Squids that flew/fly them. Folks that land on carrier decks are special people.... Very Special.

Best wishes from a zoomie.

/john

[Cyclone59]

How can you possibly like an aircraft that has killed more of our solders before it even gets produced than the F22?

I, along with many others, are questioning your rationale.

F22's are vital to the mission and you need to read the other posts. The F22 is part of a team that feeds off one another and is not as effecient alone.

Besides those are ESTIMATED costs and don't get sucked into the $900 hammer arguement. Once these birds are in full production and more models start emerging the cost is greatly reduced. The last model that does everything under the sun is less expesive than the first one ever built that barely flies.

[Haro_546]

The Fleet could be protected by SAMs in cruisers,other naval platforms, and the carrier planes. I don't know if the f-22 will be modified for carriers.

[Shellback Chuck]

Yes cancel it, lets spend our money on "flying spitwads".

[JRandomFreeper]

Oh, and I forgot to mention in my other post..... You have to spend money to defend against it.... Regardless of how good or bad it is.

And the B-52s keep on flying...

/john

[Dark Glasses and Corncob Pipe]

Like I ALWAYS say, 14, 15, 16...whatever!

[Haro_546]

My point is that there better uses for that money than an obsolete aircraft. The army could be expanded, money for missile defense is needed as well, etc.

[Wooly]

One should really do some research instead of just listening to the MSM on this subject.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/f-22.htm

Be sure and scan the links at the bottom

[A.A. Cunningham]

F-22s are already in low rate production.

[Haro_546]

I like the B-52s.

[BIGLOOK]

Get a grip! And get a dictionary.

The F-22 can fly rings around everything else out there; Ergo, BUFFs will fly another 50 years.