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Dollar Sinks to New Low Against Euro
http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/ns/news/story.jsp?id=2004112407060001675265&dt=20041124070600&w=APO&coview= ^

Posted on 11/24/2004 9:31:29 AM PST by soccer_linux_mozilla

LONDON (AP) - The U.S. dollar sank to another record low against the euro in European trading Wednesday morning. Gold prices rose.

The euro hit a record high of $1.3167 in morning trading, then eased to $1.3150, up from $1.3085 late Tuesday. The 12-nation European currency's previous peak was $1.3105 reached Tuesday.

The recent rally has taken the euro from $1.20 about two months ago, driven primarily by concerns over the U.S. trade and budget deficits.

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KEYWORDS: currency; dollar; eurosaregay; trade
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To: streetpreacher

Euro sounds close to something the Nazis would have invented IMO.


21 posted on 11/24/2004 10:11:40 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: pete anderson

Why? Our exports are cheaper and helps cut the trade defeceit.


22 posted on 11/24/2004 10:11:45 AM PST by Haro_546 (Christian Zionist)
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To: pete anderson
. . . coupled with the 1973 oil embargo that caused all the inflation in the 1970's.

The oil "embargo" didn't cause inflation; it reflected it. I use the term "embargo" loosely because the Arab oil embargo actually played a very minor role in the rise of oil prices in the 1970s; the primary culprit was the declining value of the U.S. dollar.

23 posted on 11/24/2004 10:11:57 AM PST by Alberta's Child (If whiskey was his mistress, his true love was the West . . .)
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To: pete anderson

I think we were separated at birth....


24 posted on 11/24/2004 10:15:05 AM PST by Mikey_1962
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To: Alberta's Child
It's not the trade deficit that's the problem -- it's the "current account deficit," which is basically the combination of the trade and budget deficits.

The current account deficit doesn't include the budget deficit. The current account deficit is the goods and services trade deficit, often referred to as the trade deficit. As always the trade balance is always in balance as currrent account deficit (good and services) = the capital account surplus (foreign investment)

25 posted on 11/24/2004 10:16:51 AM PST by NeoCaveman ("I expressed myself rather forcefully, felt better after I had done it," -- VP Cheney)
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To: dubyaismypresident
you are right, There is little we can do about our trade deficit.
26 posted on 11/24/2004 10:18:13 AM PST by Haro_546 (Christian Zionist)
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To: dubyaismypresident

Thanks for the correction. Wouldn't the current account deficit include that portion of the budget deficit that is cast as U.S. treasury securities purchased by foreign investors?


27 posted on 11/24/2004 10:19:08 AM PST by Alberta's Child (If whiskey was his mistress, his true love was the West . . .)
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To: A CA Guy

Well, we all know the Nazis were gay.


28 posted on 11/24/2004 10:21:17 AM PST by streetpreacher (There will be no Trolls in heaven.)
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To: Alberta's Child
Wouldn't the current account deficit include that portion of the budget deficit that is cast as U.S. treasury securities purchased by foreign investors?

Nope. That's a cash inflow and therefor would be part of the capital account surplus.

Ironic that the twin deficits in part offset each other, atleast from an accounting persective.

29 posted on 11/24/2004 10:23:35 AM PST by NeoCaveman ("I expressed myself rather forcefully, felt better after I had done it," -- VP Cheney)
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To: streetpreacher

Oliver Stone says in his movie that Alexander the Fabulous was.


30 posted on 11/24/2004 10:24:39 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Alberta's Child
The oil "embargo" didn't cause inflation; it reflected it. I use the term "embargo" loosely because the Arab oil embargo actually played a very minor role in the rise of oil prices in the 1970s; the primary culprit was the declining value of the U.S. dollar.

Well yes, Tricky Dick taking us off the Gold Standard had a huge, devastating and immediate impact of the economy. However, the embargo did not help by increasing the marker price for Saudi Light Crude by 70%.

31 posted on 11/24/2004 10:25:13 AM PST by pete anderson
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To: A CA Guy
Oliver Stone says in his movie that Alexander the Fabulous was.

Aren't we all (deep down in our most suppressed inner child/feminine side) really....

European?

32 posted on 11/24/2004 10:29:04 AM PST by streetpreacher (There will be no Trolls in heaven.)
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To: pete anderson
How much of that price increase was actually the result of the embargo, and how much of that price increase was the result of the devaluation of the dollar?

I've examined this before in some detail, and my estimate is that the embargo itself really only resulted in a 20% increase in oil prices. That makes sense, when you consider that 20% is probably the margin that was paid to a third-party "middleman" who dealt oil to the U.S. that would otherwise have been shipped directly here.

33 posted on 11/24/2004 10:30:26 AM PST by Alberta's Child (If whiskey was his mistress, his true love was the West . . .)
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To: Mikey_1962
I always hated economics and when I was at UT Austin I needed an elective and took a class in Marxist Economics that was recommended by my Conservative Government professor and my Liberal girlfriend who I later married.

The class spent a great deal of time critiquing market economies and provided a solid and actually conservative view of them.

34 posted on 11/24/2004 10:32:45 AM PST by pete anderson
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To: Mikey_1962

The French were not responsible for printing dollars in excess of what was there to back it at a fixed rate. Only a fool would have turned down cashing in paper on that deal...


35 posted on 11/24/2004 10:34:01 AM PST by Axenolith (This space for rent...)
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To: streetpreacher

Not me, I was born and Brooklyn and moved in my "yute" to California.


36 posted on 11/24/2004 10:34:11 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: soccer_linux_mozilla

So many people on this thread have their assumptions bass ackwards. If the dollar falls, then the cost of American goods relative to foreign goods falls also. This means that American goods become cheaper and more likely to be purchased than foreign goods. So, the sale of American goods rises (i.e. exports rise) and the sale of foreign goods falls (i.e. imports fall). The largest market for the purchase of manufactured goods from all over the world is the American market.

The market success of foreign countries around the world largely depends on their ability to sell to the American market. The American consumer drives the economic engine of the world. If American consumers begin to buy American goods again, this is a problem for FOREIGN businesses, not American businesses. Its the foreign countries that will suffer because of a falling dollar, not America.


37 posted on 11/24/2004 10:36:30 AM PST by bowzer313
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To: Maceman

It's the Europeso.

(OK, I got the term from Larry Kudlow)


38 posted on 11/24/2004 10:41:50 AM PST by Fred Hayek
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To: Alberta's Child
How much of that price increase was actually the result of the embargo, and how much of that price increase was the result of the devaluation of the dollar?

The price of oil increased from $3.00 barrel at the outbreak of the war in Oct. 73 to $12.00 a barrel on Jan 1, 1974. The problem was that once the embargo was over OPEC did not restore their pre-embargo production rates thus keeping the price high and contributing a great deal to inflation.

It was not until the 1980's that the Saudi's figured out that if they were going to have investments in the US that it would be in their best interest to increase production and restore the American economy.

39 posted on 11/24/2004 10:43:21 AM PST by pete anderson
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To: Axenolith

Then why was it the Frogs who did it??


40 posted on 11/24/2004 10:43:49 AM PST by Mikey_1962
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