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Not so merry X - - s cheer By ANDREW BOLT
Herald-Sun ^ | 22 November 2004 | Aussie Dasher

Posted on 11/21/2004 5:49:33 PM PST by Aussie Dasher

HOW scary that we've bred - or imported - so many people so angered by Christmas that we no longer dare use the word in public. But why do we cave in to them so easily?

Last year, for example, Stonnington Council dropped the word "Christmas" from its Christmas celebrations and even banned a minister from quoting the Bible while speaking at a carols night. Why? Would he have provoked some enraged carol singer to attack him?

This year a Deer Park childcare centre scrapped its usual Christmas party, replacing it with an "inclusive" fairytale one.

Meanwhile, schools cancel nativity plays, businesses avoid the "C" word and send "Season's Greetings" cards instead, and city stores give no hint that their tinsel has anything to do with you know what.

What is odd is that this vandalism - or what the United Nations would call "cultural genocide" - is done in the name of "tolerance", as approved by our multicultural commissars, when it actually shows an intolerance that's manic.

These bans on Christmas would sadden far, far more people than they pleased - and probably nicer people. Is that fair?

Worse, these bans breed intolerance, by rewarding the fury of people who cannot watch indulgently as fellow citizens publicly celebrate something good that means much to them and this country.

When I lived in Hong Kong, I managed to enjoy Chinese festivals without ever getting cross with Confucius. I lived in Thailand without feeling so alienated by Buddhism that I had to gag a monk.

Is it really too much to demand a little such tolerance here from the heathens who hate Christmas?


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: antichristmas; christmas; holidays
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To: Grand_Capitalism_04

"The only tradition that the Spaniards have is to bow down in the face of terror !"

gee, that's the christmas spirit. Must be downing a few tall egg nogs. The Catalans are great.


21 posted on 11/21/2004 6:23:58 PM PST by orangelobster
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To: Sam Cree
I'm Jewish, but this anti Christian, anti Christmas stuff is getting to me.

Glad to here it. Now tell your brethen who head up the ACLU!

22 posted on 11/21/2004 6:31:56 PM PST by Bommer
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To: orangelobster

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

I just finished putting my few hudred Christmas lights up outside in preparation for the traditional celebration of our savior Jesus Christ's birthday. And there are moose-limbs living right across from me. You should see the sparkle in their small childrens' eyes. There are a few houses on my block that decorate. But look where I live (see tagline)


23 posted on 11/21/2004 6:33:32 PM PST by bicyclerepair (Help I'm surrounded by RATS (S. FL))
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To: Bommer

You can't complain too much about anti Semitism if you are anti Christian.

But my point was meant to be:
When one may be criticised for being Christian, then one may be equally critised for being Jewish, more so most likely.


24 posted on 11/21/2004 6:38:48 PM PST by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Aussie Dasher

I've never really minded X-mas, mainly because in the Catholic Church X and P (Chi Rho in Greek, the first to letters of Christ) are a common symbol of Christ. Holiday also comes from Holy Day, I also find this humorous. Sparkle Time? Now that's ridiculous.


25 posted on 11/21/2004 6:40:35 PM PST by ALPAPilot
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To: bicyclerepair

"And there are moose-limbs living right across from me."

I'm not familiar with the moose limbs, but as long as there are guys like you putting up christmas lights in mid-november in florida no amount of P.C. activists will be able to tamp down christmas.


26 posted on 11/21/2004 6:45:54 PM PST by orangelobster
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To: LynnHam
By not buying x mas presents it would only take 1 year for the stores and malls to put christmas back

Hey now don't blame the stores ! they create employment and merely service a need. Blame the gullible shoppers !
27 posted on 11/21/2004 6:49:36 PM PST by Grand_Capitalism_04 (God helps those who help themselves.)
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To: orangelobster

gee, that's the christmas spirit. Must be downing a few tall egg nogs. The Catalans are great.

Sorry it was just a knee jerk reaction.


28 posted on 11/21/2004 6:50:58 PM PST by Grand_Capitalism_04 (God helps those who help themselves.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

I don't know what the big deal is. I don't object to Jews having Jewish holidays, Buddhists having Buddhist holidays, etc. I also do not try to horn in on them in the name of "inclusion." It would be stupid to hear of a Buddhist holiday and run up and say "I want this to be more Christian." If someone wants to take part in Christmas, that is fine and dandy. If not, stop trying to ruin it for everyone else.


29 posted on 11/21/2004 7:03:44 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides

Most of the anti-christmas crowd is deep down Anti-Capitalist and anti-freedom.


30 posted on 11/21/2004 7:05:12 PM PST by Grand_Capitalism_04 (God helps those who help themselves.)
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To: Esther Ruth

Truly a beautiful card.

Do you think liberals hate Christmas because of the mother/child connotation?


31 posted on 11/21/2004 7:05:52 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (Stop Hillary - PEGGY NOONAN '08)
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To: Sam Cree

I'm not seeing Christians demanding Menorahs being taken down. It seems to me more hatred of Jewish lawyers towards Christian traditions then Christian lawyers being intolerant of Jewish traditions! ACLU are the new NAZI's!


32 posted on 11/21/2004 7:10:42 PM PST by Bommer
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To: Bommer

ACLU are the new NAZI's!

As a lawyer representing Nazi's I demand a retraction or I'll sue for defamation !


33 posted on 11/21/2004 7:20:54 PM PST by Grand_Capitalism_04 (God helps those who help themselves.)
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To: Bommer
"I'm not seeing Christians demanding Menorahs being taken down"

The history of anti Semitism has lain elsewhere. Anti Semitism has been a sad part of American history, as you know. However, I agree that the ACLU and other anti Christian Jewish activists are a malign influence, they are part and parcel of the Left...I had meant to make that clear.

34 posted on 11/21/2004 7:25:13 PM PST by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Aussie Dasher
I think this part can be difficult for some people regarding the Christian faith. It does seem pathetic to them, that he came as such a lowly, simple child. Human nature is so proud. We want to put things upon ourselves that make us feel bigger, better and more bold. Even more so now. To take upon you, this "baby" as your savior does seem to diminish you instead of exalt you and that does offend human pride.
35 posted on 11/21/2004 7:25:48 PM PST by Esther Ruth
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To: Esther Ruth

The anti-Christian liberal crowd have it in in a big way for babies.

Not content with slaughtering them in abortuaries, they are now intent on removing all mention of the most influential baby in the history of the world.


36 posted on 11/21/2004 7:55:58 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (Stop Hillary - PEGGY NOONAN '08)
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To: Sam Cree
So America has an antisemitic past huh? Tell that to the GI's who died ridding the world of Hitter.

Of course, it depends on what your definition of antisemitism is.

The label seems to mean everything and nothing.

If you put Jews in Gas chambers your an anti-semite. On the other hand I've heard Jews call other Jews anti-semites because they didn't support Israel with enough enthusiasm.
37 posted on 11/21/2004 8:46:10 PM PST by rcocean
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To: rcocean
"So America has an antisemitic past huh? Tell that to the GI's who died ridding the world of Hitter"

I'm sorry my father is no longer with us, so I could repeat your high minded remarks to him. However, as one of the GI's you mention, he fought his way ashore in the first wave at Normandy, fought in the front lines of the Hedgerows in Normandy, the liberation of Paris, the bloody Battle of Hurtgen Forest, the Battle of the Bulge, and later his division occupied the camp at Dachau. By the time the war ended, his division had suffered over 200% casualties.

So thanks so much for your advice on what I should try telling to whom.

The fact that America did not attempt to exterminate Jews does not at all mean there has not been an anti Semitic past here; there has and is.

My point in addressing it on this thread was not to wave anti Semitism in your face, but to note that anti Semitism does not excuse anti Christian(ism) on the part of American Jews.

Please put away your hostility.

38 posted on 11/22/2004 7:04:15 AM PST by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Sam Cree
You seem to have missed my point. I'll make it more clear.

You charge the USA with being antisemitic. That is an insult to all the GI's who died fighting Hitler.

If you're charging the USA with being antisemitic. Tell me exactly how.

Either that or stop smearing this country.
39 posted on 11/22/2004 12:16:05 PM PST by rcocean
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To: rcocean; Sam Cree
You charge the USA with being antisemitic.

He did nothing of the sort. Step back and re-read what he wrote:

Sam said: Anti Semitism has been a sad part of American history, as you know.

That my FRiend, is a fact.

Just as slavery, race riots, prohibition and new Coke were all a sad part of American history.

40 posted on 11/22/2004 12:21:30 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (All I want for Christmas is a red Swingline stapler...)
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