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I have a hard time believing that Europeans are, in general, as ignorant as the author makes them out to be but you never know. If it is true, though, that's a great argument against tourism there.
1 posted on 11/21/2004 8:23:44 AM PST by Chi-townChief
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Because many Europeans consider this month's Bush win as a vote for U.S. isolationism

How are people allowed to write lines like this without some editor pointing out that invading Afghanistan and Iraq in order to destroy tyrannical regimes is the exact opposite of isolationism. With respect to our policies in Afghanistan and Iraq and the Middle East in general, it would be the Europeans who are the isolationists, not the Americans.

2 posted on 11/21/2004 8:29:14 AM PST by vbmoneyspender
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lives in the British prime minister's residence at 20 Downing Street.

This idiotic woman needs to get that address right. Its 10, not 20.

3 posted on 11/21/2004 8:29:56 AM PST by nwrep
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Who cares. Loser can rage all they want. They are still LOSERS. They are irrelevent. They had better get use to it.


4 posted on 11/21/2004 8:30:23 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Next up, US Senate. 60 in 06!)
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"Europeans, yadda, yadda, Europeans, yadda, yadda, Europeans, yadda, yadda," ad naus. One phrase stood out: "battered dollar." That wouldn't be the same thing as "overvalued Euro," would it? We'll see soon.
5 posted on 11/21/2004 8:31:06 AM PST by Snickersnee (Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket???)
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"...the British prime minister's residence at 20 Downing Street..."

Hey, Tony, did you move? They must have lengthened the street for you!


7 posted on 11/21/2004 8:32:07 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: Chi-townChief; little jeremiah; EdReform; MeekOneGOP

Maureen Jenkins sounds like a female Jayson Blair.

Below is one of her previous great writings about Metro Sexuals"

www.suntimes.com
http://www.suntimes.com/output/lifestyles/cst-ftr-metro17.html




Could you love this man?

December 17, 2003

BY MAUREEN JENKINS





Ladies, there's a new breed of man on the loose -- and watch out. He just might be prettier than you.

Walk into your favorite spa or salon, and you might see his masculine fingers soaking at the manicure station, waiting to be massaged and buffed. You might hear him waxing poetic about a spicy Sangiovese at a trendy wine bar. Or you might see someone like Miami Dolphins defensive star Jason Taylor, he of the 6-foot-6, 260-pound frame of chiseled muscle, lathering up on TV with a Neutrogena Men Power Scrub Deodorant Bar -- and one wrapped in a textured washcloth, no less.

He's the metrosexual, and he's been discussed -- and dissed -- in chat rooms, on sports radio, and among groups of girlfriends throughout America. But despite the faddish moniker, he seems here to stay.

He likes his nails just like his drink -- neat





Of course, there's more to a metrosexual than just his look. For the modern man who fancies himself an international spy, there's the "Metrosexual Martini," now being shaken (not stirred) at the Fairmont Chicago's Bar at Aria. This downtown hotel bar calls the $12 drink "a controversial cocktail for the well-adjusted man," one featuring French-produced Ciroc vodka and three giant olives and served on a mirrored vanity tray. As any true metrosexual knows, accessories make the man -- and this martini comes with a side of Shu Uemura sample-size skin products and a card for a free manicure. At 16 bucks, the treatment at nearby Petrosino's Parlor is worth more than the drink itself.

Now that's smooth.

Maureen Jenkins




So the Sun-Times invited a few single thirtysomething Chicago-area women from its new Dating Panel to chat about this new modern man -- and whether he's the type of gift they'd want from Santa this holiday season.

Credit this year's initial American interest to a Euro RSCG Worldwide study that surveyed 510 American men and found many were snubbing classic gender boundaries. Unafraid of being deemed unmanly, the survey found them "primarily urban, heterosexual, well-educated, and on easy terms with women and feminine ways." A New York Times Sunday Styles piece outed these skin-sensitive dudes back in late June. Since then, the metrosexual's been having his moment in the spotlight.

And some women, like 36-year-old Kimberly Williams of Hyde Park, say it's a good thing -- and think the trend might even be signaling a new gender equality. A dating columnist for Chicago-BlackSingles.com, she's also the author of The BASICS: Tantalizing Tips and Techniques for Attracting Good MEN!

"If throughout time we go back through the years," she says, "a man would place value on himself according to how good his woman looks. But now he's placing value on himself according to how good he looks.

"Sometimes what would happen in a relationship, a woman would get with a man, a boyfriend, or even a husband, and then she'll let herself go. But if she's going out with a metrosexual, she has to stay neck and neck because this man is doing everything to keep himself looking good."

Sherilynn Allen, a South Side resident and avid Internet dater who's now involved with someone she met online, has gone out with metrosexual men before. And she's good friends with a guy she joins for pedicure appointments every couple weeks.

"I've found with the couple I have dated they are a little more narcissistic, more than your average man," says Allen, 38, an executive assistant at Loyola University. "But they will spring for pedicures -- you can get a spa date out of them. They have no problems doing that with you."

But when self-care turns into narcissism, 38-year-old Catherine Filarski draws the line. This Glendale Heights pharmaceutical representative who dates a couple times a month says she can't imagine being attracted to a man more obsessed with his looks and his wardrobe than with his inner self. Rather than viewing this concern as a sign of respect for the ladies he dates, she views it as selfish.

"I don't think it has anything to do with women," she says. "I think it's ego. I wouldn't want to go out with a guy like that. What would you talk about? I mean, I don't talk about shopping -- unless you're talking about antiquing or something like that. But I don't do that with my women friends," either.

The feminist movement of the 1970s gave women the freedom to tap into more traditionally masculine roles. And today, pop culture vehicles -- including Bravo's watershed cable TV hit "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" -- offer men the freedom to sample attitudes and behaviors that may once have seemed less than manly. Those go beyond buying moisturizers and low-rise jeans and step into areas like yoga, cooking and interior design.

Filarski believes the gay community's growing acceptance within mainstream American culture "is probably what's starting to happen, and guys are going, "Hmmm -- Honey, can I do that? Get the pedicure and manicure and take better care of myself?' It's starting to intertwine and happen, and a hundred years from how, there won't be so much segmentation" between the sexes.

She and Williams think the popularity of reality-based TV shows also have played a role in the rise of the metrosexual male.

"If you look at reality TV, everyone looks fantastic," says Williams. "The women, nobody is over 130 pounds, everybody's 5-foot-8, the guys all have washboard abs, and people are saying, 'If this is reality, I'd better step up to the plate.' Nobody wants to feel 'less than.' "

While some of this may seem new to American men, it's not a foreign concept to other cultures. European men -- especially the French and Italians, who are known for having an almost innate sense of style -- often hail from societies that celebrate the well-put together male. Within some Latin American and African-American circles, men have traditionally been allowed to fuss over their personal grooming and dress without stepping out of bounds.

Williams and Allen don't mind guys inching onto their traditional female turf, but believe there's something to be said for gender differences.

"I like that we're opposites," says Allen. "That's what makes it interesting. I think we come from two totally different places, and no amount of grooming will change that."

Really, though -- who are we kidding? Straight men's methods may change, but the goal remains the same: to woo and win the chicas of their choice.

"Guys are doing whatever they can," says Williams, "to make themselves attractive to women."

As Michael Flocker, author of The Metrosexual Guide to Style: A Handbook for the Modern Man says, "The term 'metrosexual' may have a shelf life, but this new awareness of style is permanent."


Maureen Jenkins is a local free-lance writer.


8 posted on 11/21/2004 8:32:54 AM PST by Grampa Dave (FNC/ABCNNBCBS & the MSM fishwraps are the Rathering Fraudcasters of America!)
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So far not one a-hole who has promised to leave, has left. This is all just a bunch of melodramatic ca-ca.


10 posted on 11/21/2004 8:35:10 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Congratulations President-Re-Elect George W. Bush!)
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Over the next year, Chicago native and freelance writer Maureen Jenkins will write monthly about her expatriate experiences in Europe for the Chicago Sun-Times Travel section.

We can yet beseech a merciful and benevolent Providence to spare us the vicissitudes of this neophyte's additional "expatriate experiences in Europe." Perhaps if we really repent...

12 posted on 11/21/2004 8:37:42 AM PST by nathanbedford
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"I have a hard time believing that Europeans are, in general, as ignorant as the author makes them out to be but you never know..."


Well, with Blue state idiots like Ms. Maureen talking to them what else are they going to believe.


14 posted on 11/21/2004 8:40:55 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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Having lived in Europe a good portion of my youth and being just one generation removed from Europe, I can safely say that a majority of the Europeans are undereducated and over arrogant.

This quote by a fellow American tells me that she/he has lived in Europe less than 5 years. "Europeans are much more into world politics than Americans -- they know every single nuance," says Ricki Stevenson"

With all due respect most Europeans know crap about foreign policy, no crap about economics, no crap about the US. Here is an example. Three years ago a bank director (from one of the largest European Banks) spent Xmas with us. During a discussion on foreign policy he admitted that he did not know that the US Senate has to ratify a treaty signed by the President of the United States. This is a BANK DIRECTOR of a world famous bank. A person who determines long term policy for the company.

Please remember that 95% of the news Europeans receive comes from their respective governments or tabloids. Most of their schools suck worse than ours and their Universities on the whole cannot compete with ours.
15 posted on 11/21/2004 8:41:50 AM PST by Chgogal ((Pssst. I have it on the best authority that Allah just ran out of virgins. Spread the word.))
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"Europeans are much more into world politics than Americans -- they know every single nuance,"

I did not know that the word nuance was a synonym for delusion.

16 posted on 11/21/2004 8:42:05 AM PST by Stentor
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It's hard right now....everyone outside my immediate family lives over there. I have to say, since 9/11 I have felt little inclination to visit any of them. It took me forever to explain the 2000 election three years ago. I have noticed that most are very apolitical beyond the superficial notion of what "Political parties" stand for, even in their own countries. However my grandmother is 93 and so I will venture abroad sometime in the next year.


17 posted on 11/21/2004 8:42:06 AM PST by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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I guess Americans are not as enamored with the burdens of classism and defeatism as the Europeans are.


18 posted on 11/21/2004 8:47:15 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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Well I know lots of Euros that are quite happy about Bush winning, but they are Conservatives and either eutrepenuers or professionals (mostly science, technology or defense.) When you can talk to people privately one can get a different picture. Mind you, it is not a majority opinion, but it is not a small minority either. The European press is so one sided. Most Euros that know America would have been shocked if Bush had lost. One has to realize the the socialist behind the EU "integration" have been waging a propaganda war against the US for over a decade. They are trying to create a notion of the "EU citizen." It is true that Iraq help them but we would have seen this eventually anyway. Many EUros have a completely fabricated notion of what America is, and many have never been there. You here all the Rats talking point, they are just translated into the local language (It is a real discussion of how much damage the Dems in the media has done this country.) Many people in Europe only relied on the OLD Media in the US and there fellow travelers in European media to get their information. Of course they were taken unawares.

Part of me thinks that we are just one again a decade or so ahead of the Euros, that we will see a trending to the right and to tradition over there too in the next 10 years. That may just be wishful thinking on my part.

The political control of the media has and the bias has reached levels not seen since the Nazis. It is, however, so at odd with reality that I wonder if they can keep it up.

The one thing that is deeply troubling is that they have substantially brainwashed a large part of s generation of young people. I do not see how to counteract that at this time.

It is my guess (and hope) that as the US starts to turn around and the Euros have to come to terms with the fact that we are a highly competetive and leading nation then they will sober up a bit. We saw a glimmer of this in this years Olympics. I think that we will see the that all the bright hopes pinned on the EU will fade a bit. RIght now they are believing their own PR.

21 posted on 11/21/2004 8:49:34 AM PST by CasearianDaoist
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Europeans like to talk to Americans to a) practice their English, b) sell them trinkets, c) grind their own political axes about America in general, pretty much in that order. If the American is a girl, there are additional reasons. The election just gave them an opening to start talking and open a conversation, so for them, it was a blessing, regardless of the result.


23 posted on 11/21/2004 8:50:49 AM PST by KellyAdmirer
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I was approached by two people in Frankfurt recently and both wanted to know why we re-elected Bush. To keep the conversation short and simple I told them that Europeans can't fathom the effect 9-11 had on the US. One was a woman and she wondered why Farenheit 9-11 hadn't changed my mind. When I told her it was propoganda she just stood there with her mouth open.


24 posted on 11/21/2004 8:56:01 AM PST by Arkie2
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I am sick and tired of hearing that canard: that the Euros said after Sep 11, "we are all Americans now" and Bush managed to squander that good will. That baloney lasted one afternoon, and they were BACK to Bush/USA-bashing which started way before the Iraq war and the Bush presidency for that matter.

"Europeans are much more into world politics than Americans -- they know every single nuance," says Ricki Stevenson, an American journalist WRONG Ricki, They know the garbage fed to them by their one-opinion leftist or left-leaning press for the most part. There are "ignoranuses" everywhere, even in Europe.

The Euros and others abroad are always under the impression that something crazy is happening here, cuz all they meet are Dem-left ex-pats and Bush(or Reagan) keeps getting elected here. Hey sophisticated Euro-morons: the ex-pats are NOT representative of this country. They are State Dept officials, Academics, and artists all overwhelmingly skewed politically to, you guessed it, the LEFT (which you guys think is the center). Some are also cowards who disagree with the Euro/Left but won't tell you.

Finally, genius ex-pats and Eurons: FACT 1: America is successful (by many counts). FACT 2: America is different. Is there a chance these two things are related? Ya think? Do you understand that most Americans do NOT want to be like you?

25 posted on 11/21/2004 9:01:21 AM PST by beckaz
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lives in the British prime minister's residence at 20 Downing Street

Hey Maureen. Check out the address. Even children know the PM's address in London.


29 posted on 11/21/2004 9:13:22 AM PST by texasbluebell
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Because many Europeans consider this month's Bush win as a vote for U.S. isolationism, they wonder if this signals Americans' unwillingness to travel, to connect with folks from other parts of the world.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

My response to this, when asked by folks outside of the US, is that their media isn't telling them the truth. Usually a few examples (calling the greatest advance in military history a 'quagmire') illustrate the point.

31 posted on 11/21/2004 9:34:37 AM PST by HolgerDansk ("Oh Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round.)
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"But since President George W. Bush won re-election, the mood among much of the population here is one of indcredulity."

Something else that really bothers Europe is America's growing attitude of anti-Europeanism. In the past, Europeans who were anti-American were safe in that attitude since Americans usually reacted like a Golden Retriever whose nose was smacked. Not any more.

It isn't isolationism since no one I know has cancelled trips and we certainly are more engaged throughout the world politically and militarily. It's the idea that Americans can voice a loud FU at the Europeans for the first time, and they don't like it.


32 posted on 11/21/2004 9:37:24 AM PST by OpusatFR (tagline fatigue~ check in tomorrow.)
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