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Fifty-three confirmed killed as plane crashes into park lake in north China
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific/view/118220/1/.html ^

Posted on 11/20/2004 8:28:29 PM PST by ConservativeStatement

BEIJING : Fifty-three people were confirmed dead Sunday after a passenger plane crashed shortly after take-off in northern China, officials and state media said.

(Excerpt) Read more at channelnewsasia.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airplane; china; planecrash
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1 posted on 11/20/2004 8:28:30 PM PST by ConservativeStatement
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Private plane - rich Chinese.


2 posted on 11/20/2004 8:29:51 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

ping


3 posted on 11/20/2004 8:33:25 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Destro

That's the only ones the CCP cares about. A hundred or so peasants die and Xinhua downplays it as a minor incident.

I hung around on the CCP run sites before. It's amazing how repressive the gov't is over so many aspects of interaction.


4 posted on 11/20/2004 8:35:17 PM PST by Bogey78O (Kerry surrendered Florida faster than he surrendered the Mekong Delta)
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To: Bogey78O

There is a billion one million Chinese - like in India where hundreds die in spectacular rail and bus accidents - they tend to get numb at deaths in these numbers.


5 posted on 11/20/2004 8:36:56 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Bogey78O

Were there any former Clinton associates on board? /sarcasm


6 posted on 11/20/2004 8:37:03 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Prayers.


7 posted on 11/20/2004 8:37:11 PM PST by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve to keep us free.)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Prayers for the victims and their families -


8 posted on 11/20/2004 8:41:44 PM PST by Pastnowfuturealpha
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To: Destro

+Nah, I'm talking like, "nah, only 2 or 3 people died" then it turns out to be 40 or 50.

Just like how AIDS outbreaks in some areas were swept under the rug to keep social order.


9 posted on 11/20/2004 8:43:33 PM PST by Bogey78O (Kerry surrendered Florida faster than he surrendered the Mekong Delta)
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To: Destro

Airliner -- China Eastern Airlines

CRJ - 200. Nice little plane, probably poorly maintained.

Believe this is similar to the aircraft that went down.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/671479/M/


10 posted on 11/20/2004 8:52:40 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: Dr. Marten

See what I mean?


11 posted on 11/20/2004 10:27:37 PM PST by Brian Allen (I am, thank God, a 2X-blessed hyphenated American: An AMERICAN-American - AND a Dollar-a-Day FReeper)
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To: MediaMole

starting from a small city in northern china. poor abandoned once industrialized city.


12 posted on 11/20/2004 11:48:51 PM PST by however1
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To: Blurblogger

ZING!


13 posted on 11/20/2004 11:50:27 PM PST by REDWOOD99
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To: Velveeta; Revel

Ping


14 posted on 11/20/2004 11:55:20 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Today, please pray for God's miracle, we are not going to make it without him.)
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To: Brian Allen

"See what I mean?"

Nice example to bring your point home!


15 posted on 11/20/2004 11:58:42 PM PST by Dr. Marten
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To: MediaMole
People on airliners.net are saying that this is the actual plane in question, a Bombardier CRJ-200 registration B-3072:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/577409/M/

}:-)4

16 posted on 11/21/2004 4:56:51 AM PST by Moose4 (I'm not white trash. I'm Caucasian recyclables.)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan; Tijeras_Slim; FireTrack; Pukin Dog; citabria; B Knotts; kilowhskey; ...

17 posted on 11/21/2004 4:58:37 AM PST by Aeronaut (This is no ordinary time. And George W. Bush is no ordinary leader." --George Pataki)
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To: MediaMole
Probably well maintained. The CRJ-200 (really the CL65) is a fifty-seat pax aircraft (53 with crew - two pilots, one attendent) that originally was the Bombardier Challenger, a business jet. As a business jet, it may cycle a couple of times per week, as a regional it cycles four to five times per day. This puts it under an enormous amount of stress day-in and day-out. A key to whether maintenance is poor or not is whether the U.S. allows a nation to fly to our airports. The surveillance and scrutiny that the FAA puts foreign carriers under is pretty high and China Eastern Air flies into the U.S. (http://www.ce-air.com/cea/en_US/homepage).

Here in the U.S. nearly all regional carriers are converting to the more robust CRJ-700 or 900 or Bombardier's competition the ERJ-170 or 190 from Embraer. Here are some pictures:


CRJ-700


CRJ-900


ERJ -170


ERJ -190

18 posted on 11/21/2004 7:03:40 AM PST by Archangelsk (Plain, simple soldier. Nothing more, nothing less.)
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To: Brian Allen

I am presuming that you and Dr. Marten are having a private conversation?


19 posted on 11/21/2004 8:58:49 AM PST by B4Ranch (The lack of alcohol in my coffee is forcing me to see reality!)
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To: B4Ranch

G'Day, B4 -- not a presumption, an as usual astute observation.

I'd just been telling Dr Marten elsewhere that, particularly as I've had a bit to do with "training" chinese "pilots" in various [Pilot-costumed] roles and [Extremely-limited-by-their"talents"] capacities, I'd never get on a chinese aircraft in any other capacity than as Aircraft Commander.

And as if to make my point the dopes went and stuck another one in the ground.

My apologies for not getting up there, by the way: -- duty called and I was 10,000 miles away B4 I had a chance to blink. Next time, though!

Blessings -- Brian


20 posted on 11/21/2004 12:53:49 PM PST by Brian Allen (I am, thank God, a 2X-blessed hyphenated American: An AMERICAN-American - AND a Dollar-a-Day FReeper)
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