Fifty-three confirmed killed as plane crashes into park lake in north China

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific/view/118220/1/.html ^

[ConservativeStatement]

BEIJING : Fifty-three people were confirmed dead Sunday after a passenger plane crashed shortly after take-off in northern China, officials and state media said.

[Destro]

Private plane - rich Chinese.

[Calpernia]

ping

[Bogey78O]

That's the only ones the CCP cares about. A hundred or so peasants die and Xinhua downplays it as a minor incident.

I hung around on the CCP run sites before. It's amazing how repressive the gov't is over so many aspects of interaction.

[Destro]

There is a billion one million Chinese - like in India where hundreds die in spectacular rail and bus accidents - they tend to get numb at deaths in these numbers.

[The Spirit Of Allegiance]

Were there any former Clinton associates on board? /sarcasm

[mdittmar]

Prayers.

[Pastnowfuturealpha]

Prayers for the victims and their families -

[Bogey78O]

+Nah, I'm talking like, "nah, only 2 or 3 people died" then it turns out to be 40 or 50.

Just like how AIDS outbreaks in some areas were swept under the rug to keep social order.

[MediaMole]

Airliner -- China Eastern Airlines

CRJ - 200. Nice little plane, probably poorly maintained.

Believe this is similar to the aircraft that went down.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/671479/M/

[Brian Allen]

See what I mean?

[however1]

starting from a small city in northern china. poor abandoned once industrialized city.

[REDWOOD99]

ZING!

[nw_arizona_granny]

Ping

[Dr. Marten]

"See what I mean?"

Nice example to bring your point home!

[Moose4]

People on airliners.net are saying that this is the actual plane in question, a Bombardier CRJ-200 registration B-3072:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/577409/M/

}:-)4

[Aeronaut]

[Archangelsk]

Probably well maintained. The CRJ-200 (really the CL65) is a fifty-seat pax aircraft (53 with crew - two pilots, one attendent) that originally was the Bombardier Challenger, a business jet. As a business jet, it may cycle a couple of times per week, as a regional it cycles four to five times per day. This puts it under an enormous amount of stress day-in and day-out. A key to whether maintenance is poor or not is whether the U.S. allows a nation to fly to our airports. The surveillance and scrutiny that the FAA puts foreign carriers under is pretty high and China Eastern Air flies into the U.S. (http://www.ce-air.com/cea/en_US/homepage).

Here in the U.S. nearly all regional carriers are converting to the more robust CRJ-700 or 900 or Bombardier's competition the ERJ-170 or 190 from Embraer. Here are some pictures:

CRJ-700

CRJ-900

ERJ -170

ERJ -190

[B4Ranch]

I am presuming that you and Dr. Marten are having a private conversation?

[Brian Allen]

G'Day, B4 -- not a presumption, an as usual astute observation.

I'd just been telling Dr Marten elsewhere that, particularly as I've had a bit to do with "training" chinese "pilots" in various [Pilot-costumed] roles and [Extremely-limited-by-their"talents"] capacities, I'd never get on a chinese aircraft in any other capacity than as Aircraft Commander.

And as if to make my point the dopes went and stuck another one in the ground.

My apologies for not getting up there, by the way: -- duty called and I was 10,000 miles away B4 I had a chance to blink. Next time, though!

Blessings -- Brian