I don't wish to win hearts and minds in Iraq. I want dead Islamonazis. That is all. Over.
Posted on 11/18/2004 3:34:57 PM PST by writer33
One U.S. Marine, a cameraman, and a terrorist. The marine, acting in complete self-defense, fired the round into a terrorist pretending to be dead. Seconds later, the terrorist was dead, and now part of the mosque’s décor.
What do you get when you add all of that up? A compulsion to run with the tape. The mainstream media had President Bush now. This will get him impeached. They knew this ‘Cowboy’ was sending troops over to Iraq to murder innocent civilians. The Dennis Kucinich theory was in full swing. Somehow, the liberal press would have you believe that this poor, unarmed, Iraqi civilian would still be alive had this trigger-happy Marine not gunned him down in cold blood.
Democrats have pulled out all the stops and the Civil Rights lawyers to defend this poor, “insurgents” soul. Michael Gross was already championing the plight of this suffering, innocent terrorist on Hannity & Colmes, November 16, 2004. So, the strategy begins for liberals and the Democratic Party. Dig up anything and everything they can on President Bush and press for impeachment and removal from office; a theory expressed by Rush Limbaugh months before the reelection of President Bush.
In order to have that happen, liberals and the mainstream press want everyone in America to think our soldiers are murderous thugs, thugs that were duped into going to Iraq at the whim of an unchecked, imbecilic, war-mongering president. Nothing could be further from the truth. Our soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, and coasties are honorable men and women, serving with distinction in a war that protects the life of everyone in this United States, and they spread liberty throughout the world. In a Reuters news story, his fellow brother-in-arms defended that brave marine. “I would have shot the insurgent too. Two shots to the head,” said Nicholas Graham, 24, of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. “You can’t trust these people. He should not be investigated. He did nothing wrong.”
Exactly the point. If we are to believe this Iraqi man is an innocent civilian, then what was he doing faking his death? Why would a civilian caught up in the battle not cry out for help? Especially when help was right there? Because he wasn’t an innocent civilian, and he wasn’t an “insurgent.” He was a terrorist assassin out to kill Americans, period. He could’ve been booby-trapped. He could’ve had a hand grenade in his hand. There is a myriad of possibilities that could’ve led this marine to shoot him. Speculation at this point is a typical senseless agenda. This shouldn’t have even made the news. There should’ve been cheers for the marine for doing his job. Instead, we have Democratic operatives trying to insert doubt into the minds of the American people by insisting on an investigation.
Since the days of Watergate, liberals have been trying to remove conservatives by scandal. It seems to be the only method they know how to use. So, by suggesting that there needs to be an investigation behind this shooting, they’re implying that there is something wrong, something the American people need to know. Democrats want everyone to think that this marine performed a war crime. The kind of crime John Kerry committed while in Vietnam. They hope, in their warped machinations, that Americans will begin to think of Iraq as they did Vietnam, which happened to be the entire philosophy of the Kerry campaign. It’s the kind of rhetoric that Janine Garofolo trumpets, the kind of lies the press wants in your subconscious. It didn’t work then, and it’s not going to work now.
Could America have survived World War II and Korea with the meddling press corps we have today? In those days, we would’ve leveled everything; anyone that didn’t get out of the zone would’ve been part of the landscape. Now, with precision weapons and an overly sensitive press, we exercise caution at every little nook, cranny, and mosque. During WWII, that marine would’ve been walking through a blasted pile of rubble. That’s why this marine found himself face to face with an injured “insurgent.” That’s why there’s a story for the press to blow completely out of proportion, and that’s why we’re in Iraq, to liberate the oppressed from terror.
We’re spreading freedom throughout Iraq, which will help to stabilize an extremely volatile area of the world. These assassins operate on one kind of mentality: “Kill ‘em all, let Allah sort ‘em out.” Which is why a terrorist—one that was injured from earlier fighting—was playing dead. This leaves our fine men and women of the U.S. Armed forces only one choice, survival of the fittest.
This marine did his duty. He made a judgement call, protected himself, his unit, and the United States of America. America should be proud of this young marine, bursting at the seams with confidence. This marine’s actions reflect great courage upon himself, his unit, the Marine Corps, and the United States of America.
Semper Fi, marine.
You are wrong.
The US Marine did exactly what he was supposed to do.
That you might find it repugnant is of no concern to me, the much touted and little read Geneva Conventions,or to the DOD.
You have a right to your opinion.
You will be proven wrong in a short period of time.
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I don't wish to win hearts and minds in Iraq. I want dead Islamonazis. That is all. Over.
Wrong.
1. These folks aren't even covered as combatants, nor as civilians under the GC.
2. Before this incident the terrorists made a bad habit of falsely offering a white flag and then opening up when our guys exposed themselves. They also blew themselves up and their dead up with explosives. So even if you want to give them GC protection, they loose its protection when they break its rules.
3. Based on the above this Marine had every reason to shoot that terrorist. If you want to blame someone, blame the terrorists, they are responsible for forcing us to shoot first, ask questions later.
4. Had that terrorist had an explosive vest or grenade, like many have, and killed that fire team of Marines, what would you be saying now, "That's life." I suppose.
5. This happened in WWII in the Pacific on a regular basis. Like these terrorists, the Japanese were bent on suicide and would fake death, booby trap their dead, and feign surrender, just to kill one more Marine. It became common practice to shoot all Japanese that appeared dead before approaching them.
6. How about trying out your own theory. Go to the worst part of town at two in the morning and ask the first person you see on the street if they have change for a $100 bill. Keep trying that until you find someone kind enough to help you out. After all you don't want to assume the worst of people, you might hurt their feelings.
Signed, thanks for the ping.
Kevin Sites needs to have his butt kicked........up between his shoulder blades. He had some choices; bury the tape, never to be seen again, pass a copy of the video along to Marine brass or make a name for himself. Not being there, it's difficult in good conscience to know whether the first choice was a real option. And the second option would not have precluded at some point the third option. He made a hasty decision without considering his options down the road.
If he would have quietly passed a copy of the tape along to the brass and he felt strongly the young Marine committed a war crime, he would have had a huge hammer with which to work with. Particularly if the Marine brass tried to cover it up. As it is now, he's saddled with the label of anti-war activist who jumped the gun in his own selfish interests.
May God protect the young Marine.
FGS
FGS
Atta Boy, Girl!!! You're right on the money, honey!!!
That there "Writer33" can sure write 'em up, can't he? Shazzam!!! Once he gits done tellin 'em... They know they done been told!!!
My reply was based on paraphrasing the position taken by a West Point professor who teaches this stuff for a living. I'll take his expert opinion over yours any day. My position is that our soldiers should abide by UCMJ: do you take a different position?
I'm agnostic about whether this particular individual was guilty or not: I never claimed he either should be court martialed or convicted. I was merely stating the odds are not in his favor based on the tape. But if you read carefully, I also raised the possibility that in a fair hearing, this individual might conceivably offer a credible defense of his actions. That defense, assuming those making the decision followed the letter and spirit of UCMJ, could not rest on the claim that the wounded soldier "might have done X, Y or Z." It would have to be based on demonstrating a tangible threat.
If this were "no big deal" the military would not waste its time investigating it right now. As with Abu Graib, I believe the investigation will ultimately culminate in a court martial. Whether it results in a conviction remains to be seen. Even though we all had our priors, Scott Peterson wasn't guilty until a jury convicted him. Same's true here.
Did the Abu Graib convictions "harm every soldier who defends this country and portray us as pathetic and hapless jackasses to anyone we should respect?" The fact is IF this soldier crossed the line and we convict him, we actually will garner more respect. Conversely, if this guy crossed the line and we fail to hold him accountable, we will be sending a message to all US military personnel that UCMJ is a crock and we have no plans to enforce it. I think it's fantasy to believe that the latter world is preferable to the former.
I forget how the lyrics goes, but what that loonie
said reminds me of that old Pink Floyd line about:The Lunatics are in your head .....
Or something like that. haha!
Is there really a plot afoot amongst the Dems to impeach President Clinton over Iraq?
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You're talkin' about the U.S. Marine kills wounded insurgent
petition? I signed it already, thanks.bump!
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