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'Punish France' In Europe, Condoleezza Rice's reputation precedes her
AP ^ | 11/16/4 | OHN LEICESTER

Posted on 11/16/2004 1:11:56 PM PST by SmithL

PARIS -- In Europe, it's hard for some to think of Condoleezza Rice -- Colin Powell's expected replacement as U.S. secretary of state -- without recalling the low points in trans-Atlantic relations that grew out of the war in Iraq.

After all, it was Rice who raised eyebrows last year with her Machiavellian suggestions for how Washington should treat European opponents of the U.S.-led invasion.

"Punish France, ignore Germany and forgive Russia," Rice was widely quoted as telling associates in the spring of 2003.

Trans-Atlantic ties have since improved to some extent. But Rice's reputation still precedes her.

"Condie Rice is a woman with character, that's the least we can say," French Foreign Minister Michel Barnier said Tuesday of President Bush's trusted national security adviser.

But Barnier underlined French hopes of rebuilding ties with the United States no matter who holds the post of chief diplomat. "If she is named ... we will continue to have the same relations," Barnier told Europe-1 radio. "With the United States, the moment has come, looking ahead of us, to rebuild, to renew this trans-Atlantic relationship."

Many in Europe, Asia and the Middle East believed Rice will add a more conservative, hawkish bent to U.S. diplomacy after Powell, seen by many as a moderating voice in a Cabinet of hawks.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: axisofweasels; condoleezzarice; euroweenies; forgiverussia; ignoregermany; punishfrance; rice
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Works for me!
1 posted on 11/16/2004 1:11:56 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

My quote would have started out "Nuke France..."


2 posted on 11/16/2004 1:14:58 PM PST by Always Right
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To: SmithL
"Punish France, ignore Germany and forgive Russia,"

Oh hellyeah!
3 posted on 11/16/2004 1:15:07 PM PST by TalonDJ
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To: SmithL
Punish France, ignore Germany and forgive Russia

Oooh, I get all giddy just reading that.

4 posted on 11/16/2004 1:17:23 PM PST by riri
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To: SmithL
I remember how Maddie Halfbright suddenly learned that she was part Jewish after she took the post.

I'd love for Condi Rice to find out her people came from the Ivory Coast.

5 posted on 11/16/2004 1:17:23 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: SmithL

Chirac thinks France is Europe. He's partially right. France is Europe's outhouse.


6 posted on 11/16/2004 1:17:29 PM PST by auboy (Dishonesty is NOT a virtue.)
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To: Always Right

"I say we take off and Nuke 'em from orbit -- it's the only way to be sure."


7 posted on 11/16/2004 1:17:31 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: SmithL

At the very least, no one will mistake Condie for a doormat!
You go girl!


8 posted on 11/16/2004 1:17:35 PM PST by IonImplantGuru (PhD, School of Hard Knocks)
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To: SmithL
"If she is named ... we will continue to have the same relations,"

Sounds like the French are still threatening America.
9 posted on 11/16/2004 1:17:53 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberalism is a Hate Crime-Liberate America from the occupation media!)
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To: SmithL

This is hilarious. Bush's cabinet is full of hawks? Compared to what, Clinton's cabinet? Old media, you haven't seen hawkish until we get a FReeper cabinet going.

If we were in charge, Iran would be a democracy already and Syria would be turning over Saddam's WMDs, due to pressure exerted by an unrestrained Israel.


10 posted on 11/16/2004 1:17:58 PM PST by Terpfen (Gore/Sharpton '08: it's Al-right!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Game over man, game over!


11 posted on 11/16/2004 1:20:02 PM PST by Caged in Canuckistan (A message from Canada: GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!)
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To: CWOJackson

What she couldn't look in the mirror and see she was jewish?


12 posted on 11/16/2004 1:20:34 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Terpfen

I can tell ya, they would have thought we are nutty far far right if they are aware of our stands. ;-)


13 posted on 11/16/2004 1:20:55 PM PST by NZerFromHK (Disclaimer: this poster is a naturalized NZer born in Hong Kong, not a expat Kiwi in HK)
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To: auboy

your right, Chirac really does think France is the greatest thing in Europe, and that De Gaulle ("you do the work and I'll take the credit") is the greatest statesmen in history.

I do so despise that man (angry smiley)


14 posted on 11/16/2004 1:20:58 PM PST by William of Orange (Netherlands, undefeated in wars against France)
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To: SmithL
"Punish France, ignore Germany and forgive Russia" Her ability to clearly see what needs to be done and to express it in simple terms is why she is one of the smartest women of her generation.
15 posted on 11/16/2004 1:21:21 PM PST by Malleus Dei ("Communists are just Democrats in a hurry.")
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To: IonImplantGuru

Good point! Sometimes, among Repubs, that's a difficult distinction to make.


16 posted on 11/16/2004 1:21:56 PM PST by eagle11 (Judge a religion not by the words of its adherents, but by their actions.)
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T H E   R I C E   D O C T R I N E

"Punish France. Ignore Germany. Forgive Russia."

God Bless this great patriot.

17 posted on 11/16/2004 1:23:15 PM PST by montag813
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But Barnier underlined French hopes of rebuilding ties with the United States no matter who holds the post of chief diplomat. "If she is named ... we will continue to have the same relations," Barnier told Europe-1 radio. "With the United States, the moment has come, looking ahead of us, to rebuild, to renew this trans-Atlantic relationship."

Not so fast, Barny!
Has France ceased seeing herself as the center of the universe?
Has France ceased talking down to other countries as if they were children?
Has France finally accepted her current role as a third rank power in the first world?

Call us back when you figure it out.

Although all countries deserve equal respect, the are definitely not equal!

18 posted on 11/16/2004 1:23:26 PM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.)
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To: SmithL

I am proud to share Condi Rice's birthday. what a great American.


19 posted on 11/16/2004 1:23:53 PM PST by montag813
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To: auboy

French men pee in public more than any other Europeans, and that's a lot. So many French cities reek of urine. They are our cultural superiors, in their minds, by the way.


20 posted on 11/16/2004 1:24:15 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Liberalism is proof that intelligent people can ignore as much as the ignorant.)
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