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Fortuyn voted greatest Dutchman
BBC News Online ^ | November 16 2004

Posted on 11/16/2004 11:30:30 AM PST by knighthawk

Television viewers in the Netherlands have voted the right-wing politician Pim Fortuyn, killed in 2002, the greatest Dutchman of all time.

Mr Fortuyn, who inflamed Dutch society with fierce anti-immigration rhetoric, was shot by an animal rights activist.

He beat the first William of Orange - the 17th-Century founder of the modern Dutch state - into second place.

The vote came amid racial and religious tension after film-maker Theo van Gogh was shot dead by a Muslim extremist.

Before his murder, Pim Fortuyn's right-wing List party was poised to make large gains in the general election of 2002, campaigning on an anti-immigration ticket.

The flamboyant and openly gay Mr Fortuyn also criticised Muslim attitudes to women and homosexuals.

He was shot dead in May 2002 five days before the election. In the wake of the murder, his party soared to second place, but has since split apart.

But many of Pim Fortuyn's policies have been absorbed by mainstream Dutch political parties.

Changing society

Mr Fortuyn's champion in the poll, journalist Yoeri Albrecht, suggested the result reflected current realities in the Netherlands.

"The question is what meaning 'the greatest Dutchman' has for society at this moment," Mr Albrecht said.

"Just look at what has happened in the last 14 days."

Opinion polls after Theo van Gogh's killing suggest that a majority of Dutch people feel threatened by the prospect of high immigration and the further integration of ethnic minorities into society.

Sectarian attacks on mosques, churches and schools have increased in the wake of the killing, further undermining traditional Dutch principles of tolerance.

In the final vote, the decolonising post-war Prime Minister William Drees came third, while Anne Frank, footballer Johann Cruyff and artists Vincent van Gogh and Rembrandt were all in the top ten.

In Britain and Germany, similar polls saw Winston Churchill and post-war Chancellor Konrad Adenauer take the titles.


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KEYWORDS: dtuch; dutchman; lpf; netherlands; pimfortuyn
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The top 10:

1 - Pim Fortuyn - politician 2 - William of Orange - royalty 3 - William Drees - politician 4 - Antony van Leeuwenhoek - scientist 5 - Erasmus - humanist 6 - Johan Cruyff - footballer 7 - Michael de Ruyter - admiral 8 - Anne Frank - diarist 9 - Rembrandt van Rijn - artist 10 - Vincent van Gogh - artist

1 posted on 11/16/2004 11:30:31 AM PST by knighthawk
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Ping


2 posted on 11/16/2004 11:31:13 AM PST by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: knighthawk
The flamboyant and openly gay Mr Fortuyn also criticised Muslim attitudes to women and homosexuals.

There will be a war in the Netherlands. And the Dutch will lose. Sad.
3 posted on 11/16/2004 11:32:19 AM PST by Antoninus (Santorum in '08)
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To: knighthawk

So will there be a headline asking how so many Dutch can be so stupid?


4 posted on 11/16/2004 11:33:01 AM PST by cripplecreek (I come swinging the olive branch of peace.)
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To: knighthawk
Fortuyn outranks William of Orange?!

This proves that they are *very* mad over there, I think.

We just had Dutch visitors who were touring America for four weeks return home to Venlo just two days ago. They were riveted to the news about the murder and burnings of mosques, and were wondering what they were going home to.

5 posted on 11/16/2004 11:35:07 AM PST by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi!)
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To: knighthawk

---as bad as those who rank Kennedy as a "great" president---


6 posted on 11/16/2004 11:36:23 AM PST by rellimpank
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To: knighthawk

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Christiaan Huygens


7 posted on 11/16/2004 11:36:37 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: knighthawk

No votes for Corrie Ten Boom?!? Sad.


8 posted on 11/16/2004 11:37:46 AM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: The KG9 Kid

What was their opinion as to what they were seeing on tv?


9 posted on 11/16/2004 11:40:37 AM PST by monkeywrench
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To: knighthawk

I'm glad to hear it.


10 posted on 11/16/2004 11:40:42 AM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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To: knighthawk

Bump!


11 posted on 11/16/2004 11:42:19 AM PST by aculeus
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To: knighthawk
Fortyn died before his time, and he was the first Dutch politician to say what most Dutch were really thinking about all the Muslim immigrants. The issue resonated deeply with Dutch voters then, and now it's now it's even stronger.
12 posted on 11/16/2004 11:42:21 AM PST by xJones
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To: knighthawk
Did Mr. Fortuyn's murderer have any Muslim ties that you know of?

Also,are ties between animal rights groups and Islamists noticeable in your Country?

13 posted on 11/16/2004 11:43:58 AM PST by Free Trapper (Terrorism is the Black Heart of Islam,not the fringe!)
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To: knighthawk
Yea Dutch!

Good choice.

14 posted on 11/16/2004 11:46:55 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: knighthawk

The Dutch are almost as bad at their own history as we are at ours! Pim Fortuyn shouldn't even make the top 50! And Johan Cruyff?

Where is William the Silent and his son, Maurice of Nassau? Where is Martin Tromp?

At least they remembered de Ruyter and William of Orange!


16 posted on 11/16/2004 11:56:07 AM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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There will be a war in the Netherlands. And the Dutch will lose. Sad.

If Fortuyn was the best they have to offer, it's understandable.

17 posted on 11/16/2004 11:57:10 AM PST by nosofar
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To: nosofar

What about Dutch Reagan?


18 posted on 11/16/2004 12:08:40 PM PST by batmast
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To: Free Trapper

No, but his anti-islamic views were regarded as racist by the left. They linked him to Hitler, Mussolini and so on and that of course made it easier to pull the trigger for his killer.


19 posted on 11/16/2004 12:09:21 PM PST by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: Free Trapper

On the 2nd question I cannot really give ans answer because both groups operate mainly on theirselves.


20 posted on 11/16/2004 12:10:08 PM PST by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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